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New laws focus on in-car texting, red light cameras, party buses

Original post made on Jan 2, 2013

Texting while driving, red-light cameras and party buses are among the targets of new driving-related laws that took effect yesterday in California.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, January 2, 2013, 7:24 AM

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Posted by Allen
a resident of Bonde Ranch
on Jan 2, 2013 at 9:40 am

No Cell Phones, no texting, just keep your eyes on the road, this new law is a joke, whey can't people wait until they park to use cell phones, the only ones that should be on the phone in a car is a non driver Ambulance drivers or the Police and Fire Depts.
We drove for a hundred years without the need for a cell phone, lets all wake up before more are killed on the road because of cell phone use.


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Posted by Pkp
a resident of Mohr Park
on Jan 2, 2013 at 11:07 am

I agree with the new texting law. Pressing a few buttons is no different than adjusting your radio while driving or pressing a few keys on a gps device. Anything more than that is definitely unsafe. So allowing a driver to touch a cell phone to use the hands-free features is the right thing. Noted though, it doesn't mean those aforementioned activities can be accomplished safely for all drivers or all circumstances... thus it must be left to the driver's discretion for when those activities can be done safely. The alternative is to ban everything outright ... I dont believe that makes sense though.


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Posted by Trevor Tooze
a resident of Livermore
on Jan 2, 2013 at 12:01 pm

I do not agree with the leniancy allowed for redlight runners. A red light is a red light, and always means stop. You already get a pre-warning with the amber ligh, which also means stop.
Red light running has got completely out of hand.


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Posted by Not the Real Problem
a resident of Canyon Creek
on Jan 2, 2013 at 12:30 pm

This legislation missed the real abuse of these devices as a revenue source rather than to enhance safety.

Some cities install these, then set the Yellow light time to a minimum, making it tricky to stop in time when the light goes Yellow. You must be ready to slam on those brakes as you approach the intersection, or slam on the accelerator if you are too close to stop. This hardly makes for a safer intersection.

Some cities have even lowered the speed limit on the road by 5 MPH because this allows them to use an even shorter Yellow light time.

This is the real problem that should be corrected via legislation, not lack of warning for drivers who are in the habit of running Red lights, and want to be warned of these automatic ticketing cameras.


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Posted by Trevor Tooze
a resident of Livermore
on Jan 2, 2013 at 2:24 pm

I was talking about the 30 day rule, after the cameras are installed. Only being allowed to issue a warning.


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Posted by Bruce A.
a resident of West of Foothill
on Jan 3, 2013 at 12:35 am

It's not really the same as adjusting the radio. Your cell phone is in your pocket. So you've got to take it out of your pocket and fiddle with little tiny buttons and try to read a little message. Try doing that while making a turn through an intersection. No, it's not the same as adjusting the volume on your car radio.


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Posted by Mike
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Jan 3, 2013 at 5:50 pm

I salute the red-light-camera law.

If your purpose is public safety, then you have to let people know you are looking.

Reminders work better than punishment, unless, of course, you are running a squeeze to raise revenue, no?

Mike


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Posted by Truth
a resident of Birdland
on Jan 3, 2013 at 6:02 pm

Allen..well said...finally a voice of reason in PTown..bravo.


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Posted by Henry
a resident of another community
on Jan 3, 2013 at 7:05 pm

Sen. Simitian's SB 1303 - an "Industry" bill - also standardizes the form used for the fake red light camera tickets many Bay Area police departments mail out.

The fake tickets, also called Snitch Tickets, are a phishing device designed to fool the registered owner into identifying the actual driver of the car. (Citrus Hts, Daly City, Elk Grove, Hayward, Marysville, Menlo Park, Millbrae, Modesto, Newark, Redding, San Mateo, San Leandro, South SF and Stockton use them.) Snitch Tickets have not been filed with the court, so they don't say "Notice to Appear," don't have the court's addr. and phone #, and usually say (on the back, in small letters), "Do not contact the court about this notice." Since they have NOT been filed with the court, they have no legal weight whatsoever. If you need more info about Snitch Tickets, Google the term.


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Posted by george
a resident of Castlewood
on Jan 6, 2013 at 7:19 am

In my judgement, one of the biggest menaces to society is the Party Bus. Putting an end to these is a fine idea. I've seen too many Section Eight types cavorting all over the county in them. First the blanket the neighborhood selling illicit bake goods, then they use their swindled profits to whoop it up in the party busses.


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Posted by Honker
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 6, 2013 at 5:16 pm

I have started my new reminder...when the light turns green, I honk in a NY minute, to remind the 'texter' to move....focus on the job at hand!!! If you're sitting at the wheel, stay focused !
QUESTION to the city. Have all new 'traffic studies' have been done to allow for speedy traffic flow to continue thru intersections. These days of driver texting, we lose about 2 cars per light because of front car delay.....the lead car.....is texting, thus delaying the restarting of flow. That first car better know, we are all watching if they're off the line in a timely manner....expect the horn, if not. Move it ! We're watching. Put the damn phone down!


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Posted by Don
a resident of Ironwood
on Jan 7, 2013 at 10:36 am

I must comment on this as I see so much of it every day. I work as a school crossing guard and I see so many people on cell phones, texting, every single day. The problem has not improved at all from my viewpoint. Often times when someone toots their car horn it is because the person in front of them is looking down, texting. The other problem I see is not coming to a full stop at a stop sign, but going through it as if it says "yield". I call them "Hollywood Stops". Now mind you, I am crossing children to and from school at a dangerous intersection. I would love to see more police presence watching for these offenders whenever they can be there.


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