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Livermore Farmers' Market manager resigns amid LGBTQ+ Pride Flag controversy

Market director ordered bakery owner to stop handing out flags; video of argument went viral

The California Farmers Market Association (CFMA) has stepped down as manager of the Livermore Farmers' Market after an argument between its representative and members of Livermore Pride and a local bakery owner earlier this month went viral.

Video courtesy Livermore Pride.

The incident occurred on June 7, when Dan Floyd -- owner of Dan Good Cookies, a vendor at the market -- and Livermore Pride Executive Director Amy Pannu were handing out rainbow flags in honor of LGBTQ Pride Month, but CFMA Executive Director Gail Hayden told the duo to stop, saying the practice of distributing flags violated market policy.

The California Farmers Market Association has resigned as the manager of the Livermore Farmers' Market. Pictured: CFMA Executive Director Gail Hayden.

Pannu captured the end of the ensuing conversation on video, which then went viral on social media and resulted in calls for boycotting CFMA because of Hayden's actions.

"Based upon the video and statements by Dan and Amy, Livermore Pride contends that the level of verbal escalation exhibited by Ms. Hayden was inordinate given the purported 'offense' she claimed was being made," Livermore Pride officials said in a statement.

"The hostility toward both Dan and Amy over something as simple as a small free flag being handed out optionally to Market consumers suggests that they were targeted because they were representing the LGBTQ+ community. Nothing else explains the outright vitriol and weighted language used in this recording," they added.

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Livermore city officials confirmed that CFMA formally resigned its role as Livermore Farmers' Market manager to Livermore Downtown Inc. on Tuesday morning. The market will not be held on Thursday or Sunday while Livermore Downtown Inc. works to find a new market organizer.

Hayden responded to the controversy in a phone interview with the Weekly on Tuesday.

"It's a standing policy. It had nothing to do with sexuality; it has nothing to do with that," Hayden said. "In fact, we have gay employees, we have gay people in our family, we have gay market managers, the consultant was gay. We don't have any problem with gay pride, but we have a problem with flags and it was blown out of proportion and it's very sad now because people are boycotting something that doesn't need to be boycotted."

According to the video (which captured just under three minutes of the conversation), Hayden told Floyd he was violating market rules by passing out the flags and threatened to suspend him until he read the CFMA's rules.

"The mission of the market is not your political point of view," Hayden told Floyd in the video. "The mission of the market is for farmers. And you're in a different rights situation here because you're a non-(agricultural vendor) ... I don't even care what the flags are for, that has nothing to do with anything."

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"My job is to run the market, not to satisfy your political point of view," she added, according to the video.

Floyd, in response that day, acknowledged that he had not reviewed the rules Hayden was referring to but did say, "Gail what is actually disturbing to me is how you are treating me right now. I have been very open with CFMA since I came here," according to the video.

Hayden disputes any claim of a lack of inclusion, and instead contends that the issue was one based on liability and protocol.

She told the Weekly that Floyd's use of his space as a platform for Livermore Pride was inappropriate because nonprofit organizations who want to have a presence at the market need to register prior to attending the event. Nonprofits are then placed in a designated area where they can conduct their business; as a part of that registration groups also sign waivers accepting liability for their supplies, she said.

As for the physical flags themselves, Hayden said she witnessed children using the flags as toy swords and was concerned about the sharp points. She claimed that if Floyd had removed the stick and simply distributed the cloth flag part, then the act would have been acceptable at his booth. (She also contended she had once asked the American Legion to stop handing out flags in the past.)

Hayden also claimed that she was the third market official to have approached Floyd's stand to explain the issue, and that Floyd had declined to stop distributing flags -- although Hayden did add that she was unaware of what the two previous officials had said to him.

For his part in the incident, Floyd -- who did not return requests for comment as of press time Tuesday -- was issued a citation by the CFMA for allowing a non-employee to be in his booth, and later stated he would not be attending the Livermore Farmers' Market in the future.

Livermore Pride officials stated that LGBTQ+ identity transcends politics and Hayden's use of words constituted "a targeted verbal attack against LGBTQ+ community members."

"The fact that LGBTQ+ identity is explicitly neither a political association nor choice is a dog-whistle to everyone who rallies around the false notion that being LGBTQ+ is somehow a choice to be exercised only under certain circumstances, when condoned by others, and out of the public eye," they said.

Livermore Pride also contended that Hayden's response to Floyd was not proportional to the alleged offense, further stating that they were no longer convinced that the market was a safe place for members of the LGBTQ+ community.

"The Market management could have simply taken their newly contracted partner vendor aside discreetly and advised him of the potential conflict with the policies and encouraged the vendor to review them. At no point during the full encounter, on or off camera, was this request made so simply and without escalation," Pride officials said.

As for the decision to resign as market managers, Hayden said she had received threats of protests, boycotts and even received multiple death threats. These threats, she said, created an environment where CFMA officials felt wouldn't be safe for vendors.

Livermore Downtown, Inc., who had previously contracted with CFMA to manage the market, condemned Hayden's actions, saying they are "appalled by the actions of the executive of CFMA, the market operator for the Livermore Farmers Market."

"Livermore Downtown Inc. believes in equality for all. We stand with our community in supporting and celebrating our LGBTQ+ neighbors. The Livermore Farmers Market will be temporarily suspending operations and the search for an inclusive market operator has begun," The Livermore Downtown Inc. Board of Directors said in a statement on Tuesday.

In a Facebook post, City of Livermore officials added: "The occurrence at the market that led to CFMA's resignation is not reflective of Livermore's values of inclusion and respect.... The City Council believes that a city can best stand against bigotry, intolerance, and hate through leading by example and living our shared community values. This month, the rainbow flag is flying at City Hall as a colorful reminder of how our city is strengthened and enriched by the diversity of its residents, business owners, and students, and we continue to work toward a more inclusive community."

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Livermore Farmers' Market manager resigns amid LGBTQ+ Pride Flag controversy

Market director ordered bakery owner to stop handing out flags; video of argument went viral

by / Pleasanton Weekly

Uploaded: Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 2:51 pm
Updated: Tue, Jun 16, 2020, 4:41 pm

The California Farmers Market Association (CFMA) has stepped down as manager of the Livermore Farmers' Market after an argument between its representative and members of Livermore Pride and a local bakery owner earlier this month went viral.

The incident occurred on June 7, when Dan Floyd -- owner of Dan Good Cookies, a vendor at the market -- and Livermore Pride Executive Director Amy Pannu were handing out rainbow flags in honor of LGBTQ Pride Month, but CFMA Executive Director Gail Hayden told the duo to stop, saying the practice of distributing flags violated market policy.

Pannu captured the end of the ensuing conversation on video, which then went viral on social media and resulted in calls for boycotting CFMA because of Hayden's actions.

"Based upon the video and statements by Dan and Amy, Livermore Pride contends that the level of verbal escalation exhibited by Ms. Hayden was inordinate given the purported 'offense' she claimed was being made," Livermore Pride officials said in a statement.

"The hostility toward both Dan and Amy over something as simple as a small free flag being handed out optionally to Market consumers suggests that they were targeted because they were representing the LGBTQ+ community. Nothing else explains the outright vitriol and weighted language used in this recording," they added.

Livermore city officials confirmed that CFMA formally resigned its role as Livermore Farmers' Market manager to Livermore Downtown Inc. on Tuesday morning. The market will not be held on Thursday or Sunday while Livermore Downtown Inc. works to find a new market organizer.

Hayden responded to the controversy in a phone interview with the Weekly on Tuesday.

"It's a standing policy. It had nothing to do with sexuality; it has nothing to do with that," Hayden said. "In fact, we have gay employees, we have gay people in our family, we have gay market managers, the consultant was gay. We don't have any problem with gay pride, but we have a problem with flags and it was blown out of proportion and it's very sad now because people are boycotting something that doesn't need to be boycotted."

According to the video (which captured just under three minutes of the conversation), Hayden told Floyd he was violating market rules by passing out the flags and threatened to suspend him until he read the CFMA's rules.

"The mission of the market is not your political point of view," Hayden told Floyd in the video. "The mission of the market is for farmers. And you're in a different rights situation here because you're a non-(agricultural vendor) ... I don't even care what the flags are for, that has nothing to do with anything."

"My job is to run the market, not to satisfy your political point of view," she added, according to the video.

Floyd, in response that day, acknowledged that he had not reviewed the rules Hayden was referring to but did say, "Gail what is actually disturbing to me is how you are treating me right now. I have been very open with CFMA since I came here," according to the video.

Hayden disputes any claim of a lack of inclusion, and instead contends that the issue was one based on liability and protocol.

She told the Weekly that Floyd's use of his space as a platform for Livermore Pride was inappropriate because nonprofit organizations who want to have a presence at the market need to register prior to attending the event. Nonprofits are then placed in a designated area where they can conduct their business; as a part of that registration groups also sign waivers accepting liability for their supplies, she said.

As for the physical flags themselves, Hayden said she witnessed children using the flags as toy swords and was concerned about the sharp points. She claimed that if Floyd had removed the stick and simply distributed the cloth flag part, then the act would have been acceptable at his booth. (She also contended she had once asked the American Legion to stop handing out flags in the past.)

Hayden also claimed that she was the third market official to have approached Floyd's stand to explain the issue, and that Floyd had declined to stop distributing flags -- although Hayden did add that she was unaware of what the two previous officials had said to him.

For his part in the incident, Floyd -- who did not return requests for comment as of press time Tuesday -- was issued a citation by the CFMA for allowing a non-employee to be in his booth, and later stated he would not be attending the Livermore Farmers' Market in the future.

Livermore Pride officials stated that LGBTQ+ identity transcends politics and Hayden's use of words constituted "a targeted verbal attack against LGBTQ+ community members."

"The fact that LGBTQ+ identity is explicitly neither a political association nor choice is a dog-whistle to everyone who rallies around the false notion that being LGBTQ+ is somehow a choice to be exercised only under certain circumstances, when condoned by others, and out of the public eye," they said.

Livermore Pride also contended that Hayden's response to Floyd was not proportional to the alleged offense, further stating that they were no longer convinced that the market was a safe place for members of the LGBTQ+ community.

"The Market management could have simply taken their newly contracted partner vendor aside discreetly and advised him of the potential conflict with the policies and encouraged the vendor to review them. At no point during the full encounter, on or off camera, was this request made so simply and without escalation," Pride officials said.

As for the decision to resign as market managers, Hayden said she had received threats of protests, boycotts and even received multiple death threats. These threats, she said, created an environment where CFMA officials felt wouldn't be safe for vendors.

Livermore Downtown, Inc., who had previously contracted with CFMA to manage the market, condemned Hayden's actions, saying they are "appalled by the actions of the executive of CFMA, the market operator for the Livermore Farmers Market."

"Livermore Downtown Inc. believes in equality for all. We stand with our community in supporting and celebrating our LGBTQ+ neighbors. The Livermore Farmers Market will be temporarily suspending operations and the search for an inclusive market operator has begun," The Livermore Downtown Inc. Board of Directors said in a statement on Tuesday.

In a Facebook post, City of Livermore officials added: "The occurrence at the market that led to CFMA's resignation is not reflective of Livermore's values of inclusion and respect.... The City Council believes that a city can best stand against bigotry, intolerance, and hate through leading by example and living our shared community values. This month, the rainbow flag is flying at City Hall as a colorful reminder of how our city is strengthened and enriched by the diversity of its residents, business owners, and students, and we continue to work toward a more inclusive community."

Comments

Julie
Birdland
on Jun 16, 2020 at 3:14 pm
Julie, Birdland
on Jun 16, 2020 at 3:14 pm
19 people like this

Everyone should watch the video of this exchange. Ms. Hayden can claim her statements have nothing to do with LGBTQ hostility and discrimination all she wants, but the video shows clearly otherwise. Bravo to the Livermore Downtown Association and by extension to the city of Livermore for refusing to tolerate this behavior.


Anne
Birdland
on Jun 16, 2020 at 3:49 pm
Anne, Birdland
on Jun 16, 2020 at 3:49 pm
18 people like this

Dan has always been great to us and I love his cookies. But, I guess I’m in minority, I didn’t think whet she was asking was that outrageous. You either need to not monitor it at all or setup guidelines and stick to them.


Jack
Birdland
on Jun 16, 2020 at 5:13 pm
Jack, Birdland
on Jun 16, 2020 at 5:13 pm
17 people like this

A pride flag is not political and Ms Haden has changed her story several times. How can the flags be dangerous to children in the regular market, but not dangerous to children in the "freedom of speech"area? Seems to me the "dangerous to children" line was added when she started getting contacted by the news. In the 3 minute clip she said it has his "political statement" she was upset about and not one thing about the "dangerous to children". She's trying to look sympathetic saying that she was just trying to protect the poor children from the dangerous pride flag. IF he was not following the rules (which say no pamphlets or petitions and nothing about flags) why was the only thing he as cited for was "having a non employee" at his booth. Dan says he tried to talk with them several times after the incident with no response, except for the bogus "citation" She knows she is in the wrong and she's trying to use every excuse in the book to try and justify her actions. What the heck does "fetus on ironing boards" and "disneyland" have anything to do with a pride flag given to whomever wanted one?


Silverfox
Castlewood
on Jun 16, 2020 at 5:20 pm
Silverfox, Castlewood
on Jun 16, 2020 at 5:20 pm
13 people like this

I would have asked her to please wear her mask properly for one thing. So glad Livermore stood by and fired CFMA.


Michael Austin
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 16, 2020 at 5:29 pm
Michael Austin, Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 16, 2020 at 5:29 pm
4 people like this

Where does, when does or how does the liberty of free speech weigh in here for the identified offender?


Kristin A.
Livermore
on Jun 16, 2020 at 6:52 pm
Kristin A., Livermore
on Jun 16, 2020 at 6:52 pm
18 people like this

Watch the video for yourself. Hayden was unnecessarily rude and unprofessional. There is a time and a place to have a conversation about how to interpret whether a flag is the same thing as a flier or a petition, but publicly berating him in the middle of the market is ridiculous.

If you think immutable facts about a person in the form of their orientation is political, that says a lot more about you than it does about them.

Besides, just think of it like a commercialized holiday at this. If we gotta suffer through two months of Christmas songs played non-stop every year and trample retail workers to death so we can celebrate Jesus with those sweet, sweet Black Friday deals, she can deal with a month of rainbows, Queen, and the Village People.


Gone
Downtown
on Jun 16, 2020 at 7:29 pm
Gone, Downtown
on Jun 16, 2020 at 7:29 pm
48 people like this

Thanks instigators and agitators....the market is gone thanks to you not reading or following the rules...but you act like rules don’t apply....way to go...you now put many Hispanic agriculture and family farms out of business because YOU wanted to push YOUR flags and propaganda. You couldn’t just offer them at your own cookie booth? Sooo selfish!


Pete
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 16, 2020 at 8:02 pm
Pete, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 16, 2020 at 8:02 pm
7 people like this

As a very visible part of todays society, LGBTQ, for the Farmers Market to be closed for these actions, no account was taken for a person's livelihood. How much is enough...? Covid-19, protests(approve when peaceful), isolation from family/friends...and now...a sensitivity issue...at Farmers Market. Make-up...and be done with it...!!


Leslie
Canyon Creek
on Jun 16, 2020 at 9:00 pm
Leslie, Canyon Creek
on Jun 16, 2020 at 9:00 pm
6 people like this

Obnoxious, overbearing, and rude the director certainly was, but it isn't obvious she was motivated by hostility toward the LGBTQ community. It seems the interpretation of this unpleasant exchange was filtered through a particular lens. "Nothing else explains the outright vitriol and weighted language used in this recording"-how about she's just a bit of a cow?


Mr. Julius
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 16, 2020 at 10:10 pm
Mr. Julius, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 16, 2020 at 10:10 pm
22 people like this

Was she a little haughty? Yes. Should she have said "Goodbye" or such after their discussion? Yes.

But her point seems valid. The Farmer's Market isn't about ABC, XYZ, or any other political group. She specifically even mentioned that anti-abortion people wouldn't be allowed to promote their issues.

Not a single person mentioned that she had gotten death threats. Really? Sounds political to me.


buklau
Avila
on Jun 17, 2020 at 1:23 am
buklau, Avila
on Jun 17, 2020 at 1:23 am
56 people like this

He straight up admitted he didn't and won't read the rules. Rules must not apply if you're apart of the alphabet community!
At this point society is becoming a banana republic where antifa can burn down buildings and nothing happens to them, and people get fired for saying a mean word about the LGBTWTFBBQ community.


David Heldt
Livermore
on Jun 17, 2020 at 8:28 am
David Heldt, Livermore
on Jun 17, 2020 at 8:28 am
13 people like this

Dan. Please come back to the Farmer's market! Don't let the power trippers/mental midgets of the world sway you from doing what you like.


Charlie
Birdland
on Jun 17, 2020 at 8:29 am
Charlie, Birdland
on Jun 17, 2020 at 8:29 am
33 people like this

This reminds me of a situation I was in a number of years ago.

I regularly volunteered at a Santa Clara Science Fair, giving up a Saturday to support the awards ceremony for the kids that won.

My job was to make sure that parents did not stand in an area in the auditorium that needed to stay clear in case of evacuation. I was just trying to enforce the rules as explained to me by the organizers.

I politely asked one guy two times to please keep the area clear. He clearly did not believe the rules applied to him.

The third request I made caused him to threaten me and claim that I was targeting him due to is race........he was a big black man.

Once he took it down the path of me being a racist, I left my assigned area, left the awards ceremony and no longer volunteer at the event.

The error this woman made was to not walk away.

The error the "victim" made was to think that he was somehow entitled to not follow the rules, to not stop passing out flags as requested.

This is pretty common in our area - people with entitled attitudes feel they do not have to follow rules that are in place for the good of the community - leash laws, not cell phones while driving, parking in handicap spots "for just a minute to get my cup of coffee", and now in the era of coronavirus not wearing a mask when safe spacing can't be met.

Sad state of affairs.........


Concerned Realtor
Livermore
on Jun 17, 2020 at 9:29 am
Concerned Realtor, Livermore
on Jun 17, 2020 at 9:29 am
12 people like this

I sympathize with both sides of the controversy but think that the collateral dammage caused to the farmers and innocent patrons is much too great and not warranted. Let them resolve their dispute in a way that does not economically impact so many others by closing the market.
Also, As a Realtor, I am not even allowed to give out a flyer or a business card right now due to COVID concerns so have to wonder how it's OK for the Farmer's market people to be distributing materials of any kind that could be COVID infected.


Pleasanton Citizen
Stoneridge
on Jun 17, 2020 at 10:10 am
Pleasanton Citizen, Stoneridge
on Jun 17, 2020 at 10:10 am
24 people like this

We need to stop kowtowing to the ultra-sensitive mobs.


Ellen
Vintage Hills
on Jun 17, 2020 at 10:26 am
Ellen, Vintage Hills
on Jun 17, 2020 at 10:26 am
19 people like this

It’s pathetic that in the year 2020 people think the pride flag is “political” It’s pure ignorance and intolerance to believe that wanting equal rights as a human being and an American citizen is somehow limited to a certain political party.

Also CMFA stepped down so they’re the ones who are responsible for shutting down the market. Maybe direct your anger at them.


Joe
California Reflections
on Jun 17, 2020 at 10:56 am
Joe, California Reflections
on Jun 17, 2020 at 10:56 am
9 people like this

Whats disturbing to me is her objectionable tone and behavior; she is CLEARLY threatening his livelihood. This is how racists and ijustice hides behind a banner of ITS NOT YOUR <insert cuase her> its this <insert a distraction here>. She's trying to negate the fact that the flag IS the issue.
And BECAUSE of what it represents she should let it go.
SHAME SHAME SHAME on you Farmers Market KAREN!


Jack
Birdland
on Jun 17, 2020 at 11:18 am
Jack, Birdland
on Jun 17, 2020 at 11:18 am
12 people like this

Ya, he didn't follow the rules, that weren't written down, and that she had in her head.

If you want people to follow the rules, you got to say what the rules are, not make them up as you go along.

Remember the only thing he was "cited" for was having a non-employee at his booth. The non-employee at his booth who was handing out the flags to those who wanted them.You'd think if he broke some other rule, that's what he would have been cited for? But I am just logical that way.


David
Livermore
on Jun 17, 2020 at 12:59 pm
David, Livermore
on Jun 17, 2020 at 12:59 pm
14 people like this

To those saying this is as simple as following rules, the rules state petitions and flyers aren't allowed -- a flag is not among the items listed. Nor is a flag political and something for the "free speech area." Dan didn't even receive the full policies and procedures referenced until "after" the incident, and when he asked for clarity twice last week they ignored his emails and sent the citation. The issue of the safety of the flags wasn't brought up until their media interviews, which is when they also claimed they wanted to resolve the issue and speak with Dan, but then the next morning they resigned after acknowledging that they wouldn't apologize. In their response letter to media, CFMA also said booths can be decorated freely with "lifestyle" items of the vendor's choosing, but in their email accompanying the citation noted that he should decorate, with approval of the management, with food decor. They've spun their responses several times before they opted to walk out on their agreement with other vendors. This wasn't about rules, and even if it was there would be a professional way to discuss them without raising their voices around customers and other vendors.


Yuck
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 17, 2020 at 1:31 pm
Yuck, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 17, 2020 at 1:31 pm
13 people like this

There are very stringent laws now with regards to finally opening up a farmers market. It’s Dans fault he didn’t ask first or read the rules. He got the market cancelled when the lady in share was just doing her job...she doesn’t have to protect his “feelings” ...she has to protect the people and kids there and make sure all rules are followed! Dan is the selfish Cookie Monster blaming everyone else for his actions.


Wombat
Downtown
on Jun 17, 2020 at 1:36 pm
Wombat, Downtown
on Jun 17, 2020 at 1:36 pm
4 people like this

Mr. Julius wrote “ Was she a little haughty? Yes.”

More than just a little haughty, I think. This video could be used as a textbook example of how not to behave when communicating rules and regulations to others.


Jose Jimenez
Ruby Hill
on Jun 17, 2020 at 1:37 pm
Jose Jimenez, Ruby Hill
on Jun 17, 2020 at 1:37 pm
17 people like this

Gail was simply acting in a direct business like manner to present the issue to Dan. Attacking Gail is not justified. Does the LBGT community feel so insecure that they can only have “touchy-feely” conversations?


Charlie
Birdland
on Jun 17, 2020 at 2:21 pm
Charlie, Birdland
on Jun 17, 2020 at 2:21 pm
17 people like this

I looked at the video.......I will not be supporting Dan's Cookies as a customer.


Pleasanton Tommy
Pleasanton Valley
on Jun 17, 2020 at 3:26 pm
Pleasanton Tommy, Pleasanton Valley
on Jun 17, 2020 at 3:26 pm
3 people like this

It sounds like the farmers market is still going to be open but with new management. I don't understand her rant about fetus' and ironingboards. Unfortunately the California Farmers Market Association is still operating many other farmers markets throughout the Bay Area and I'm sure Ms. Hayden will still be the Executive Director of those.


Lawya
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 17, 2020 at 5:20 pm
Lawya, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 17, 2020 at 5:20 pm
2 people like this

Gail, I hope you sue whomever recorded you without your signed consent. California has strong laws against it. You were doing your job....in the middle of a Covid pandemic that is spread by touching and passing items between 2 people....you can’t even use a pen at a restaurant that hasn’t been sanitized!


Know Body
Livermore
on Jun 17, 2020 at 6:18 pm
Know Body, Livermore
on Jun 17, 2020 at 6:18 pm
2 people like this

1st world problems. .. .Meanwhile, in Oakland


mike hosterman
Vineyard Hills
on Jun 17, 2020 at 6:32 pm
mike hosterman, Vineyard Hills
on Jun 17, 2020 at 6:32 pm
10 people like this

Watched the video and don't see what the problem was. Seemed to be a pretty calm discussion. Everyone seemed to be getting along. Don't know why Gail resigned - or was forced to resign.


Silverfox
Castlewood
on Jun 17, 2020 at 8:41 pm
Silverfox, Castlewood
on Jun 17, 2020 at 8:41 pm
9 people like this

Yet we all go to farmers markets and the police or fire fighters hand out little stickers and hats and no problem But Dan with the best cokies around pass out Pride flags and almost everyone throws a fit. I don't see a difference. since when is being gay political???


Jennifer
another community
on Jun 17, 2020 at 9:39 pm
Jennifer, another community
on Jun 17, 2020 at 9:39 pm
32 people like this

A pride flag IS political. Whether you're supportive, against or you couldn't care less one way or the other -- the rules are the rules. She had every right to tell him he couldn't hand out the flags. Had she been less direct, she wouldn't have gotten through to him. She wasn't offensive, but very direct. In a situation like this you have to be.


Michael Austin
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 17, 2020 at 9:55 pm
Michael Austin, Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 17, 2020 at 9:55 pm
18 people like this

Jennifer you are correct.

The confederate flag stands out as an example of flags making a political statement.


Jennifer
another community
on Jun 17, 2020 at 10:00 pm
Jennifer, another community
on Jun 17, 2020 at 10:00 pm
15 people like this

And for those who claim they don't understand why this is political, you darn well a lot of conservatives and moderates aren't supportive of the lifestyle, and it does become political. Life Americans who voted against gay marriage. How "political" is that?


resident
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 18, 2020 at 5:46 am
resident, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 18, 2020 at 5:46 am
4 people like this

I receive flowers from Veterans on Memorial Day weekend. As far as I am concerned, that falls in the same category. It seems Ms Hayden does care about the reason behind this particular flag. So sad.


Charlie
Birdland
on Jun 18, 2020 at 10:57 am
Charlie, Birdland
on Jun 18, 2020 at 10:57 am
1 person likes this

Well, June is LGBT Pride Month....

What better way to get on the news as a person being victimized........

And everybody is buying into Dan's personal (political?) goal.....

Very sad state of affairs when he could have just asked ahead of time and get the OK from the Farmers Market to support the Pride efforts by passing our flags.


stunt
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 18, 2020 at 12:57 pm
stunt, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 18, 2020 at 12:57 pm
11 people like this

Too bad the Farmer's Market was shut down in Livermore due to someone breaking the rules and handing out political material. Sounds like they are trying to do the same thing with the gay pride material in Pleasanton this weekend so the same thing happens to the Pleasanton farmers market.

Anyone who breaks the rules and hands out political literature and flags to further a political agenda when they should just be selling food items should be banned from being a vendor at the farmers market.


Becky Mc
another community
on Jun 18, 2020 at 4:01 pm
Becky Mc, another community
on Jun 18, 2020 at 4:01 pm
3 people like this

The rules belong to everyone. Being of any particular group doesn't make you exempt. Period.


ptowntb
Vintage Hills
on Jun 18, 2020 at 7:47 pm
ptowntb, Vintage Hills
on Jun 18, 2020 at 7:47 pm
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I find it curious that vendors of the market did not have to sign an acknowledgement of having received, read and agree to comply with the market rules. Especially if this document is very detailed, as it surely is since it was said to be thirty-some pages.

The market manager probably should require attention be paid to this document if they plan to enforce it.

If Mr. Floyd has not received the rules, he shouldn't be cited, or lectured, or even stopped from handing out flags. If he did receive the rules, but had not read them, I feel that Ms. Hayden could have simply said something like "Sticks, like those attached to flags, can be dangerous for kids, and you'll need to assume liability for any damages caused by them if you chose to hand them out at the market," and handed him the waiver that is used for non-profits to "accept liability for their supplies."

The rules were broken, whether knowingly or not, but the situation was absolutely compounded by very poor judgement on the part of the market manager.

I'm disappointed that so many of the comments above are placing blame for the market being closed this week solely on the vendor. The management company resigned from their contract with Livermore, and in doing so, with all of the vendors at this market. If they really wanted to make a bad situation better, they could have worked with Mr. Floyd privately to assure that the rules are clear moving forward, assigned a different market manager for the immediate future, and moved forward, business as usual.

The current culture of one side "doubling down" and making things even worse ("The mission of the market is for farmers. And you're in a different rights situation here because you're a non-(agricultural vendor) ... I don't even care what the flags are for, that has nothing to do with anything.") is cringe-worthy. The other side is also distressing with the "cancel culture" that is prevalent right now.

If you find out you were wrong, admit it. If you made a mistake, apologize to those involved. If you were wronged and get an apology, forgive. If you were wronged and didn't get an apology, safely educate the other party if and when possible, and move on with your life. Negativity isn't good for any of us.

I wish we would all take a quarter-step back and see the full picture more of the time. Listen, learn, and when asked, teach.


Ivan
Avila
on Jun 18, 2020 at 7:54 pm
Ivan, Avila
on Jun 18, 2020 at 7:54 pm
5 people like this

A pride flag is not political. LGBT people are people, nothing political about that. There are just bigots who think they can minimize a part of the population as a mere political movement, instead of understanding that LGBT people are part of society. We have a flag that just represents who we are and that shows diversity. Nothing political about that. That woman just has a superiority complex and cannot understand that life is colorful and you can't suppress it just because you are ignorant and think being gay or bisexual is a political statement.


Michael Austin
Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 18, 2020 at 7:57 pm
Michael Austin, Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 18, 2020 at 7:57 pm
6 people like this

Ignorance of the law (rules) is no excuse!


Jennifer
another community
on Jun 18, 2020 at 8:31 pm
Jennifer, another community
on Jun 18, 2020 at 8:31 pm
17 people like this

Not only is it a political statement (gay marriage was voted on) a lot of people think it's a chosen lifestyle. I've had gay people tell me they chose their lifestyle. They would know more than me. I do agree that we're all entitled to our rights. What a lot of people object to is having something shoved down their throat they disagree with. It's offensive, and we're tired of it.


Julie
Birdland
on Jun 18, 2020 at 10:56 pm
Julie, Birdland
on Jun 18, 2020 at 10:56 pm
8 people like this

Your rhetoric is sad, offensive, and pretty homophobic. The people intent on making this political are the ones who put Prop 8 on the ballot. I’ll give you one guess who that was. (Hint: not gay people.)

But as long as we’re on the topic, I’ve been meaning to tell you that I think you’re shoving your Hetero lifestyle down my throat and I find it offensive. Maybe you should go back in your closet with your homophobic views. And take your imaginary gay friends with you.

Geez.


Julie
Birdland
on Jun 18, 2020 at 10:57 pm
Julie, Birdland
on Jun 18, 2020 at 10:57 pm
5 people like this

The above comment was directed at Jennifer.

I wish PW would figure out a way to make comments editable. Alas.


AnonJudge
Parkside
on Jun 22, 2020 at 11:51 am
AnonJudge, Parkside
on Jun 22, 2020 at 11:51 am
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