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Prop 30 passage means no furlough days for Pleasanton teachers, staff

Original post made on Nov 12, 2012

Pleasanton school administrators are breathing a sigh of relief with the passage of Proposition 30. A statement from PUSD superintendent Parvin Ahmadi notes that the district, among other things, will not have to implement the four furlough days agreed to by both the teachers and school employees unions.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Sunday, November 11, 2012, 8:40 AM

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Posted by Gov. Flim Flam
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 12, 2012 at 10:18 am

Check out the article in today's Tri-Valley / Contra Costa Times. It only took 3 days after the gullible voters in California approved Proposition 30 that the truth comes out. In an interview, Gov. Moonbeam Brown said that Proposition 30 will let California COMPLETE IT'S VISION! Things included in the vision that Prop. 30 will enable are money for the Bullet Train, money to enable massive tunnel to divert more NorCal water to SoCal, and making social service programs whole again. The latter will be much easier now, since both house of the Legislature have a Democrat super-majority and the Legislature can do whatever they want.

Isn't that fascinating. Gov. Moonbeam said, pledged and promised that Prop. 30 money was exclusively for K-12 education. 3 days after the election, those who voted for it found out they were a bunch of gullible saps.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 12, 2012 at 10:26 am

There is no mention of education. I knew this would happen and voted NO on 30, and I was surprised it passed. Well, we will see now that problems won't be solved, pension liabilities will get out of control, and education will still be underfunded. I cannot believe how people can first of fall vote Brown into office and then approve his prop 30, unbelievable!

"The new revenue meant that for the first time in almost a decade and a half, the state had truly balanced its budget. And for the first time in more than 120 years, Democrats on Tuesday captured two-thirds of both houses of the Legislature, freeing the Democratic governor to embark on a more visionary policy path that may determine his ultimate legacy.

"I'm very optimistic," Brown said. "We have quite a big agenda facing us."

It includes getting high-speed rail construction off the ground and building a massive water tunnel project in the Central Valley, while pushing for regulatory and education reform. He also is considering tax reform to veer the state away from relying so heavily on income taxes, which has made California so vulnerable to the fluctuations of the market."

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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 12, 2012 at 10:30 am

oops, I posted the wrong link, here it is:

Web Link


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Posted by Mom
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 12, 2012 at 12:30 pm

I look forward to class sizes going down. That was what I voted for!


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Nov 12, 2012 at 1:29 pm

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

Mom, Here is the full text of the superintendent's press release:

"Pleasanton, California- The Pleasanton Unified School District is extremely pleased by the
passage of Proposition 30. With its passage, the State's trigger cuts will not go into effect. In
addition to the Board-approved spending reductions, PUSD employees had agreed to a
possible shortened school year to mitigate the impact of the ongoing budget challenges and the possible State trigger cuts that would have been in effect had the Proposition not passed. We appreciate our employees' willingness to work with us and plan ahead.

"The passage of Proposition 30 results in a reduction of revenue deferrals that will improve our cash balances by providing $9M in cash this year that would otherwise have been delayed until the next fiscal year. Based on our agreement with our bargaining units, our students will not lose four instructional days this school year, nor will there be any additional cuts for this school year.

"The Governing Board will receive a report on the impact of Proposition 30 at the November 13th Board Meeting. In order to continue our fiscal prudence, the impact of Proposition 30 must be considered as a part of the ongoing budget challenges we have faced from the last five years. This includes the Governor's Proposed Budget for next year that will be announced by January 15, 2013.

"During the next few months, the Leadership Team and staff will work to make recommendations to the Governing Board for next year's budget. Restoration of any previous budget cuts will be dependent on information received from the Governor's Proposed Budget and the needs of the District based on our long term vision and strategic plan. As always, there will be opportunities for community members to hear those recommendations and provide feedback during board meetings before the Governing Board makes its decision on next year's budget."

Nowhere does it say class sizes will be reduced, and they seem wisely guarded about the 2013-14 school year.


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Posted by Mom
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 12, 2012 at 2:08 pm

If they use this as an opportunity to transfer money to something else without restoring class sizes, I will be beyond mad. Cuts were made, primarily to to elementary schools,on the assumption 30 would fail. Well it passed thanks to us voters. So time to pay back what was taken.


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Posted by Mike
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Nov 12, 2012 at 2:39 pm

The headline says it all: Teachers, not kids; Salaries, not programs.

I guess the real question is, "When will the public learn?"

Mike


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Posted by Hopeless
a resident of Ruby Hill
on Nov 12, 2012 at 3:14 pm

Mike,

I guess its positive that people want to view their leaders as good and honest. But until they see them for what they are the shakedown of taxpayers will continue. And our children will to be held ransom for the sake of power and money.


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Posted by ptown parent
a resident of Del Prado
on Nov 12, 2012 at 5:38 pm

Mom - no where did prop 30 propose to reenstate class size reduction. Rather, it was to avoid the 'trigger cuts' that would have inevitably gone into effect January 1. Prop 30 is an attempt to avoid further cuts to education. I also feel it is important to correct you when you stated elementary suffered the most cuts; not true! For years, elementary schools in PUSD celebrated several 'extras', while the secondary schools went without. High Schools have experienced dwindling budgets, exploding class sizes, and fewer counselors. In addition, the CSU and UC system have taken repetitive blows. I know it is difficult to imagine now, but your children will someday be in high school, and you will begin to see the much 'bigger picture' in education.


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Posted by RJ
a resident of Birdland
on Nov 12, 2012 at 5:53 pm

Mom, too bad you didn't read up before voting. You've been duped by Moonbeam and the public employee unions. When was the last time you voted to give the government more money and it wasn't wasted on something else?


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Posted by DavidA
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Nov 12, 2012 at 8:49 pm

I agree with RJ. Brown needed the Labor Unions support to get Prop 30 approved so he could get funding for other tax measures and/or reforms. People these days are easily fooled by slogans, catchy campaign ads, and names of endorsers. Prop 32 was the same union-backed and funded coalition, but people believed passing the measure would hurt the little guy. HA! It just guaranteed the union's political machine and enhanced union entitlement packages instead of giving the public employee (including teachers) the right to choose for themselves if they wanted to pay union membership dues directly instead of automatically having it deducted from their paycheck.

I dont believe class size reduction does anything if the teacher quality is still poor, the curriculum does not fit the needs of students, and the school year continues to erode. Shortening the school year only means the other 2% will send their kids to private school full time or as an adjunct to the public school system.


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Posted by mom
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2012 at 7:18 am

"Mom - no where did prop 30 propose to reenstate class size reduction."

Our district said that they made these cuts on the wrong assumption that 30 would fail. It passed, so they never should have made these cuts and need to restore them. We've just given the state a ton of new money. There is no reason in hell that class sizes should be a 30-1 when we've just voted for a tax increase to save education.


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Posted by jay
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2012 at 7:28 am

Mom, are you being sarcastic? You know that proposition 30 was not to help our children. It was to help the teachers and other government employees. If you believed the proposition 30 propaganda then I have a bridge to sell you (or is it a train to sell you?).

It amazes me how gullible the voters in California are, and how short their memories are. The government wants more money (like always) and they put a teacher, fireman, or police officer on a TV commercial and say that your kids education or your safety is threatened if you do not give them more money. Then you give them more money and things do not get better.

Friends, the Roman empire is going to fall eventually if we do not take the all-powerful government back.


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Posted by Vic
a resident of Birdland
on Nov 13, 2012 at 10:30 am

Yep, duped again, when will we ever learn.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Harvest Park Middle School
on Nov 13, 2012 at 10:33 am

Mom - PUSD can only reinstate class-size reductions IF they actually get more money from the State. Prop 30, while increasing taxes and monies into Sacramento, does not insure monies going to local districts. Supposedly it is to insure NO FURTHER cuts to the STATE education budget, thus preventing more cuts at local levels. That is why the Parent Teacher Association had Prop 38 on the ballot. The money from that proposition would have gone DIRECTLY to local school districts. I am unsure where you heard/read that "Our district said that they made these cuts on the wrong assumption that 30 would fail." I have not come across that information in any of the Board minutes or PUSD Press releases. Could you provide where that information is listed?

Also - having students who have moved up from elementary and middle school to middle and high school, I can assure you that PUSD has cut equally strong among Elementary, Middle and High Schools and Elementary was the last to lose their class size reductions. Try sitting in a high school English class of 40 students.


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Posted by Mom
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2012 at 11:21 am

I heard, in board meetings and elsewhere, management repeatedly say that we were cutting extra on the assumption that 30 would fail. This was to be cautious and we would have extra money if it passed and we could bring a lot back. I'm not going to look it up for you, but it was said multiple times.


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Posted by reasonable
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2012 at 11:58 am

Why not keep the furlough days in place and instead reinstate some of the deep cuts to music/art/libraries/counseling, class sizes in K-3, and so on? Why are the furlough days the FIRST thing that gets funded?

I for one would rather let my kids have 4 more days of vacation but get the full range of services and/or small class sizes in the younger grades.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Nov 13, 2012 at 1:06 pm

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

reasonable, You might want to look into how the US is no longer competitive with other nations in science and math and length of school year. Making the school year shorter will not bridge that gap. Look at November, students were already out 1/2 day Nov. 1, no school on Nov. 12, half days Nov. 13, 14, and 15, no school Nov. 16, 19, 20, 21, 22, and 23. And you have winter break coming. It's a wonder anything gets done the first half of the year (and no, I don't think that's the teachers' fault). I just don't see cutting school days as reasonable. I would agree there are more important areas of need, including those you mention, rather than CSR.


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Posted by john
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2012 at 1:22 pm

" "Our district said that they made these cuts on the wrong assumption that 30 would fail."

A former candidate for the school board named Sandy said something along those lines. I think she had contacted the board directly and was told that. We'll have to wait and see if they really reinstate anything.

What I'm surprised that no one is talking about is the possibility that the school district will be pushing for a parcel tax. I don't think it has sunk in with a lot of people what the super-majority in the senate and assembly will mean for taxes. Proposals for lowering the parcel tax threshold to 55% are likely to sail through.

Web Link

I think it will be fairly easy to get a parcel tax with a higher amount than E or G will be fairly easy to pass in Pleasanton with a 55% threshold.


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Posted by Citizen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 13, 2012 at 8:54 pm

You all drank the cool aid again, didn't you !! Just wait and see what BOs tax plan does to you!! Vote Liberal Democrat it's better than working !


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Posted by Don't Count On It
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 14, 2012 at 9:28 am

PUSD better not count their chickens before thier eggs are hatched. Gov. Brown and the Lune Legislature are already talking about Proposition 30 funds going to:
- Fixing the state budget
- Helping pay for Brown's Tunnel
- Helping pay for the Bullet Train (a money pit bigger than the Big Dig in Boston)
Now you see the $$$, now you don't. PUSD better wait until the State sends them the check.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 14, 2012 at 10:50 am

"I think it will be fairly easy to get a parcel tax with a higher amount than E or G will be fairly easy to pass in Pleasanton with a 55% threshold. "

While I am against parcel taxes (even though I voted yes on the first one), I think at this point, a parcel tax is the only solution.

Yes, I am against the unions and I wish Sacramento fixed the issues with unfunded liabilities, but all that is beyond PUSD's control. And yet out students suffer each year because of budget deficits.

I supported measure "I" but it failed by a few percentage points. I voted no on 30 but it passed - I voted no on that because I knew this would happen: no money for education.

Let's support a local tax here in Pleasanton; it gives us local control about what to do with the money.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 15, 2012 at 9:32 am

""The passage of (Prop) 30 doesn't bring one additional dollar to the district," said Board Member Chris Grant."

Web Link


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Posted by Often Wrong, Never in Doubt
a resident of Mohr Park
on Nov 15, 2012 at 11:18 am

Those of you who have written that Gov. Brown plans to use the prop 30 money for other projects are entirely misreading the CC Times article. It says:

"I'm very optimistic," Brown said. "We have quite a big agenda facing us."

It includes getting high-speed rail construction off the ground and building a massive water tunnel project in the Central Valley, while pushing for regulatory and education reform. He also is considering tax reform to veer the state away from relying so heavily on income taxes, which has made California so vulnerable to the fluctuations of the market.

His comments had NOTHING to do with prop 30; but those who opposed it will persist in trying to contort the facts to fit their opinion.


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Posted by Sandy Piderit
a resident of Mohr Park
on Nov 15, 2012 at 11:41 am

Here's the link to the article: Web Link

There is only one key quote about prop 30: "With $6 billion annually from the new taxes imposed by Proposition 30, Brown said, the budget should stay balanced for years to come. He has pledged that any surplus money not needed to fund existing programs will be used to pay down the state's $34 billion "wall of debt" racked up over the past decade."


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Nov 15, 2012 at 11:41 am

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

Often, Brown isn't specifically speaking about Prop 30, but Prop 30 money will enter the general fund and is fair game for anyone's wish list. Let's hope it makes it to education.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 15, 2012 at 1:58 pm

Here is something about prop 30 from EdSource:

Web Link


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Posted by ballot measure
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 15, 2012 at 2:18 pm

Even with Prop 30 passing, I'll bet PUSD will soon try to grab cash from Pleasanton voters, they'll still try to get an outrageous amount ($500 million) from a soon to be bond measure they'll put on the ballot.

This in spite of the fact they owe over $100 million on the last two bond measures and just finished construction 5 years ago.

Greed greed greed


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Posted by Nurse Shark
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:13 pm

"ballot measure" - finding the district guilty of something they haven't even done, just because you imagine them doing it?

Staceleen, is that you again?


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Nov 15, 2012 at 5:29 pm

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

I don't know ballot measure, and I'm sure it isn't Stacey either.


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Posted by john
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 15, 2012 at 7:51 pm

I think you'll see a parcel tax as well. With the new super-majority in the legislature, I think we'll see a bill to lower the threshold for parcel taxes to 55%.


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