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Fourth of July

Original post made by Cindy Cross, Parkside, on Jul 5, 2011

Fourth of July by Cindy Cross
Here we are, on the most important holiday in America—the fourth of July, marking our independence from oppressive England. Would our founding fathers be proud of how far we’ve come as a nation?
They would first look at our technology and be dumbfounded. Imagine a mind like Thomas Jefferson or Benjamin Franklin seeing massive metal objects transporting hundreds of people from one side of the planet to the other? The advances in technology would be mind boggling to the best minds in America from the 18th century.
What would they think about America being involved in so many world conflicts? It may go fifty-fifty with some agreeing with America’s expansionist ideals. With Iraq and Afghanistan, we’re there more as security than conquest. Perhaps they would be disappointed in our willingness to leave once the conflict is over rather than taking some bounty as departing gifts.
The current state of our economy would bring disdain and perhaps even disgust. We have grown so greedy and complacent in our financial affairs. The gold standard is long gone, and the debt ceiling is nearly breached.
We have progressed in our treatment of every citizen, regardless of color. Our current president, being African American would make all of our fore fathers very proud indeed.
Although scandals always occur, I don’t imagine them at the scale, magnitude and frequency as they do now. Larry Craig, the senator from Idaho who picked up men in the airport bathroom, and senator Weiner from New York who sent sexually explicit pictures to various women. There are too many other scandals involving prominent politicians, and I think the founding fathers would be disgusted.
Whether you are a Jeffersonian or Hamiltonian, we are all allowed to have our individual beliefs on what would be best--big government or small government. That is the true beauty of our system—we all agree that we can disagree, but can we do it with more respect?
Let’s make current and future generations proud of the men and women who call themselves the leaders of our country.


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Posted by Gifford
a resident of California Somerset
on Jul 6, 2011 at 7:26 am

Let's see. Founding Fathers' owning slaves vs. Weiner's explicit photos. Yep, Founding Fathers would have every right to be disgusted. Let's all strive to be like the Founding Fathers.

Re. Larry Craig's picking up johns in public restrooms, I couldn't care less. What mattered was the hypocrisy of the guy who crusaded against gays with hate-filled rants for years until he was exposed as the creep he is.

Weiner proved to be a narcissistic sicko, though he never hurt anybody with his fetish. Craig proved to be a homosexual who hurt lots of people along the way in his efforts to cater to the hate-filled Republican electorate that gets all lathered up against the gay population. Let's not put them on the same comparative plane, okay?

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Posted by Voter
a resident of Bordeaux Estates
on Jul 6, 2011 at 3:47 pm

What's more disgusting? Anthony Wiener sending photos of himself on the Internet or the always well-coifed and debonaire George Washington owning slaves? Hmmmmmm.... This one is difficult, but I vote for Georgie Boy. I gotta think too that that's one of the reasons why the tea party fetishists always refer to the Founding Fathers; it's their way of gaining vicarious pleasure at the thought of owning people, like Leland does.

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Posted by John Douglas
a resident of another community
on Jul 7, 2011 at 7:19 am

Then and now is like day and night, the day providing the light to lead the way for our nation, and the night being the current state of affairs for our nation in which we stumble blindly down the path of our imminent doom.

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Posted by Yet Another Deep Thinker
a resident of Castlewood Heights
on Jul 7, 2011 at 7:32 am

The acorn is immanently present in the oak tree, and a title wave of vast porportion is descenting upon us. Squirrels are not possums. Slavery wasn't so bad as all that compared with Barney Frank and Anthony Wiener.