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Kolln & Valley

Original post made by Fair Access, Amador Valley High School, on Apr 5, 2009

I am glad that the council decided to open Stoneridge, thinking of the town rather than an isolated community. People, heading west, will get off at El Charro, take a right on Stoneridge, turn left on Kamp, turn right on Mohr, take a left on Kolln. Then suddenly there is a wall at Kolln and Valley. Why should one area of town restrict access while others are open? The council needs to continue to think of the town rather than an isolated community and open the wall at Kolln and Valley. If not, a wall should be installed at Kolln to restrict access from Stoneridge as Kolln is restricted from Valley. Fair is fair.


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Posted by frank
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Apr 5, 2009 at 6:32 pm

You have to be brain dead to not know that Kolln at Valley leads into a dense, residential-street neighborhood with no ultimate destination beyond. Stoneridge, on the other hand, has been paid for and built to be a sound-walled, two lane in-each-direction thoroughfare designed to carry through traffic.

Come on, give the rest of us a break, we're not THAT stupid!

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Posted by Name Calling
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Apr 5, 2009 at 6:37 pm

First, just because someone may not agree with you, name calling is not necessary. Kamp, like Jensen Track, is dense, residential-street neighborhood. I understand the point being made. Wouldn't the wall coming down lead to Alisal Elementary School field as a destination? Best option may be that wall at Kamp since the two situations are very similar.

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Posted by Sandy
a resident of Mohr Park
on Apr 5, 2009 at 6:47 pm

Sandy is a registered user.

Why would someone make all those turns through side streets, when they could just stay on Stoneridge (which has a higher speed limit, and synchronized traffic lights) until Santa Rita, and then turn left?

There's an elementary school on Kolln just south of Valley. In all likelihood, that's why the wall was built in the first place -- to discourage people from driving into that neighborhood, where so many children walk to and from school, unless they are headed somewhere in the neighborhood.

If there are traffic problems at Kamp and Stoneridge, perhaps there are intermediate steps that could be taken, short of building a wall? For instance, it might restrict traffic sufficiently if Kamp was one-way (going north) for the block that runs alongside Neilsen park.

There is another elementary school on Dennis, which runs parallel to Stoneridge just to its south, and to the east of Kamp. Any traffic control measures taken should not have the effect of increasing through traffic near either school.

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Posted by Makes Sense
a resident of Jensen Tract
on Apr 6, 2009 at 3:41 pm

Makes sense to me. Right now many drivers take a left from Santa Rita on to Mohr and a right on Kolln - quicker than waiting in back up at light on Valley - to use Valley on way to Livermore. It will not take long for drivers to learn the short cuts. Though I live in Jensen Track, I would like for that wall to come down. I, too, would like to avoid Santa Rita at rush hour.

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Posted by Reagan
a resident of Amador Estates
on Apr 7, 2009 at 11:50 am

Wish Mr. Reagan were alive and well. I can hear him now - "Ms. Hosterman - take down that wall."

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Posted by francisco st resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 7, 2009 at 6:46 pm

I have lived on Fransisco st for over 30 years. I believe that wall is necessary. We may be just a small section of residents in this city, but many of the poeple who live in this area have done so for many many decades. We understand the city has grown, but is it so much to ask that the atmosphere we have come to love is preserved in whatever small way necessary? This is a small residential area, there is no reason to open it up to shorten a commute by mere minutes. My children used to play st hockey in the evenings on this street with all the neighbor kids. I can't imagine them doing that now. If that wall is opened, I would be hesitant to let the kids play outside at all. It angers me that after living here contently for so many years people think they can just move on in and change the very core of what I loved about this community. The quiet, the safety and the consideration of others, is a sanctity I have come to believe matters no more to these new residents. Residents here would petition it. Surely you can wait 3 minutes for a light and go around. You say rush hour? Try living in LA. How selfish of you to disregard the feelings of hundreds of residents just for a temporary moment of convienience for you. All I can say is that wall has always been there and as far as we are concerned that wall will ALWAYS be there!

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Posted by Kamp Drive
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Apr 7, 2009 at 8:30 pm

I am with Francisco. I bought my house on Kamp, new in 1986. I have lived here for 23 years. Our quiet street has become busier. With Stoneridge opening, traffic will only increase. Please put up a wall so that Kamp cannot be used to cross over from Stoneridge. Many small children live on the street. We, too, deserve a wall as a barrier from a four lane road (Stoneridge / Valley.) It just takes a few more minutes. We must make sure to make all use Santa Rita.