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Teens behind the Wheel

Original post made on May 15, 2011

"We don't call them accidents," J.P. Rosales, a representative with Farmer's Insurance Pleasanton, said at the recent town hall meeting aimed at teen driving. "Most often it's not an accident, so we call it a collision."

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Posted by Kelly
a resident of Foothill High School
on May 15, 2011 at 4:14 pm

It seems like a lot of parents don't enforce the rule that new drivers can't drive other kids in the car for the first year they are driving. This makes is harder on the parents who want to keep all kids safe. What's up with the parents who don't enforce this rule? It also doesn't seem like the police are doing anything about this either. If a few kids were given tickets and community service for violating this rule, other kids would hear about it and take the rule more seriously.

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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 16, 2011 at 8:39 am

I'm a parent of a new teen driver, and I can tell you I am VERY strict about my child not having anyone else in the car. It seems the kids of parents who aren't strict get away with it. Here I am, always telling my child NO PASSENGERS, and look what happened-- my child was still getting a handle on driving our manual transmission car, and squealed the tires proceeding from a stop sign. No big deal, except-- the child was taking a sick friend home (she felt sorry for her), AND a police officer was right behind them when the tires squealed. Busted! Now we have to go to traffic court and likely pay a hefty fine. Needless to say, the child lost all driving priviledges for awhile.

Having said all that, I really do like the laws about provisional licenses. They save lives.

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Posted by rules are not that hard
a resident of Downtown
on May 16, 2011 at 9:13 am

Thanks for at least doing the right thing about your child. I think that any kid caught by the police breaking that law should have their license revoked for a minimum of one year. A very large fine should also be assessed -- on the parents.

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Posted by Mrs E
a resident of Pleasanton Middle School
on May 16, 2011 at 10:52 am

There is a great driving program for teens 14+. Check out the program It's a safe teen driving course held @ the Altamont Speedway. The program is held once a month and it is FREE!!! The Alameda Sheriff's also have a station there for driving practice. This month it will be held on 5/22 from 10:30-3pm.

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a resident of Downtown
on May 16, 2011 at 11:31 am

I think that the DMV should have stickers that can be put on cars that clearly give them a visual that the person behind the wheel of that specific car has less than a year driving. The whole argument about the car isn't used by that specific child all the time should not even be brought to people attention, it shouldn't matter. I would be ok if the cops stopped me if they thought a child with less than their year was out after curfew or driving other kids when they should not have been, it is not an inconvenience when it can save lives. This option would definitely eliminate the urge for these kids a little more that now with no fear at all.

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Posted by Mrs E
a resident of Pleasanton Middle School
on May 16, 2011 at 12:00 pm

Our next On Track Safe Teen Drive event is* Sunday MAY 22nd @ 11:00 at the Altamont Raceway 17001 Midway Rd. Tracy, CA. in the Altamont hills off of Grant Line Rd. Byron exit. We would like for first time students to be there at 10:30 in order to be registered. Remember to tell your friends about our program *(no learners* *permit or license required)* and visit us on the web at<Web Link;
*Returning Students,* we would like for you to come at 12:00 to ease some of the congestion that we have first thing in the morning.

The Alameda County Sheriffs Dept will once again be with us and will be setting up their driving course. We are very thankful to them for their continued participation and support in our program.

And we will once again have the* free* BBQ. *DONATIONS ACCEPTED*

Volunteers are always needed for these events if you would like to participate on the track, help direct the students, make sure they are using signals, keeping distance or help with the BBQ it would be greatly appreciated. Just let us know, 1 hour or the whole day helps us out.

Teens that are required to have community service hours are also welcome and encouraged to volunteer.

If you have any questions Please email or give us a call @ Ken 209.601.6523, Tom 209.612.4222 or Cheryl 925-931-1262


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Posted by Jake
a resident of Del Prado
on May 16, 2011 at 4:27 pm

Right. So lets have teens drive alone and more teen drivers on the road. That makes sense. Sometimes the laws that are supposed to keep us safer, don't! The police seem to pick and choose what laws they are going to enforce. I have watched people run red lights while a motorcycle cop is giving a young person a ticket for not wearing a helmet. Sitting there, I had to laugh. I agree we need laws but sometimes I think CA has way to many.

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Posted by bad mom
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 16, 2011 at 7:50 pm

I enforced the no one else in the car when daughter had her provisional. Her 2 best friends did not and were encouraged to drive together by their moms. Thus I'm the "bad mom". I "caught" my daughter being dropped off. Daughter lost her driving privileges and had to walk to school. I talked to the driver's mom a second time - oh, well (other girl's mom) has no problems. So I point blank said - we don't have money (other girl's family does) and we are not in law enforcement (her husband is). We will obey the laws. Daughter was grounded except from her scheduled activities. Did she do it again? Probably and probably with them. I also took down the girl's license and said I'd report it the next time I saw her driving anyone. I'm a very bad mom. <grin>

As for the law, I would prefer an earlier version when new drivers could drive siblings. That was the law when son started and it was 6 months - increased to a year which meant him too while he was provisional.

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Posted by Resident
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on May 16, 2011 at 10:34 pm

When my son had his provisional....I was definitely one of the few "bad" moms. In fact, at the time there were very few parents that enforced the provisional at Foothill.They thought it was easier on them and ridiculous for students to be driving separate cars when they were going to the same place. When I pointed out that IT IS THE LAW....I was looked at like I had two heads. In fact, one student I know was caught with 5 other students in the car during his provisional and NOTHING happened. No ticket, no fine, nothing! What did that teach the other 5 kids in the car.

I think we are way too lenient with driving and teens. Personally, I think students should not get their license until one year of practice driving with a learners permit and NOT BEFORE they turn at least 17. After one year of the learning permit.....I think it should be 6 months with no other passengers. I think driving in the United States is way too liberal and we have too many cars on the road. Having 16 year olds drive for a year without passengers just exacerbates that situation. Age 17 is plenty young enough to put a lethal weapon in the hands of our youth. Issue driver licenses at age 17 and not before. Require 1 year of driving with a learners permit and then 6 months no other passengers.

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Posted by AVHS Dad
a resident of Stoneridge Park
on May 17, 2011 at 12:34 pm

AVHS Dad is a registered user.

Back in the dark ages when I first got my license, there were no restrictions. But kids my age got in a lot of accidents back then. Why? Because kids are kids. Most don't pay attention anyway and if there are other kids in the car it's an invitation to disaster. At best they will be distracted, at worst they will show off. There are reasons for these laws and if parents don't do their part to see they are followed, they are NOT parents.
Did my son do this? Of course he did. But I believe it was kept to a minimum because he knew we did not approve.

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Posted by SAD PARENT
a resident of another community
on May 17, 2011 at 2:31 pm

I once was a parent of two vibrant teenagers. He was 16 and she was 14, until one day I decided to let my son take my daughter to an event across town. I am telling all of you parents out there that you will never ever forgive yourself if what happened to me happens to you believe me.

It was not convenient when I had to bury both my children on the same day, the same day we would have been celebrating by daughters 14th birthday.

Parents open your eyes because you should be the wiser. Children obey the laws they are enforced for reason like this.

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Posted by jeanblake80
a resident of another community
on Jan 16, 2014 at 7:46 am

I would have to agree. Though there are a lot of accidents, I would say most are "collisions" because they happen due to reckless driving.
Jean | Web Link

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Posted by revoke the license
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 16, 2014 at 2:51 pm

If these kids violate the law then revoke the license for at least one year. Also fine the parents and force them into community service for allowing their out of control kids to break the law.
I was hit by a kid on a provisional license, with illegal passengers, and have suffered lifetime physical damage. Their insurance will be paying me a judgment in the millions of dollars. I only wish the parents of that kid were held financially responsible. They should be bankrupted for allowing their child to drive illegally.

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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jan 16, 2014 at 5:59 pm

It's my impression that there are many responsible teens that drive. Given that there are thousand upon thousands of auto accidents in the USA annually, how many car accidents can be blamed on teen drivers?

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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jan 18, 2014 at 4:32 pm

Teen drivers: Web Link

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Posted by W.L.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 22, 2014 at 7:30 pm

Teenagers should not drive cars, period.
They do not have the maturity or judgment.

Have you seen the way adults drive?
That's pathetic enough.

Adults making a turn with children crossing in front of them have their foot on the gas, not the brake.

Parent drivers drive toward children in crosswalks, timing their acceleration so they can speed through as soon as the child is one step clear of their bumper.
I see it everyday in Pleasanton.

One day a child will suddenly turn and run back and we'll have a dead Pleasanton student because adults are too narcissistic to brake for children in our schools' crosswalks.

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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jan 22, 2014 at 7:54 pm

If 18 & 19 yr. olds can be trained to kill in the US Armed Forces I see no reason that they should not be allowed to drive a car/truck.

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