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Parents lose patience over school mask mandate

Original post made on Feb 15, 2022

Since state health officials decreed the end of the mask mandate for restaurants and grocery stores last week, frustrated parents have been asking: When can their kids take their masks off at school?

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, February 15, 2022, 11:34 AM

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Posted by buklau
a resident of Avila
on Feb 15, 2022 at 12:58 pm

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Celebs & politicians are ignoring the mask mandates. Yet healthy children are force to wear masks for omicron (symptoms of the common cold).

CDC says the flu is more dangerous for children, yet nobody was mandating masks for kids during any flu outbreaks.

Watch the Super Bowl crowd, and compare it to how our state is treating our children.


Posted by BobB
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Feb 15, 2022 at 2:25 pm

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@buklau,

The CDC does not say flu is more dangerous to children than covid.

1200 pediatric deaths due to covid in the last 2 years versus 6 pediatric flu deaths.

Stop spreading this nonsense.


Posted by John
a resident of Birdland
on Feb 15, 2022 at 3:31 pm

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Better check your facts BobB. You know how to google. Please check with CDC for their stats. Stop spreading misinformation. Show source.


Posted by BobB
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Feb 15, 2022 at 4:16 pm

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@John,

Oh. My numbers are correct. The 'bucklau' was lying.

Web Link


Posted by John
a resident of Birdland
on Feb 15, 2022 at 5:47 pm

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Better try CDC not that crackpot site you referenced. 3000 to 4000 children die by auto annually. You stated 600 per year for covid. Shall we punish the millions of students adversely affected by mask and other inane covid restrictions. Try some common sense.


Posted by BobB
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Feb 15, 2022 at 7:29 pm

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John,

If you read the article it has two links to the CDC statistics showing 1200 pediatric covid deaths in 2 years and six pediatric flu deaths. The links are right there in the article. The numbers are correct, and they are from the CDC.


Posted by BobB
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Feb 15, 2022 at 8:08 pm

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CDC links from the above.

Web Link

Web Link


Posted by John
a resident of Birdland
on Feb 15, 2022 at 8:51 pm

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What about the auto deaths and only 600 per year of covid for most likely underlying health issues. 350 million people in this country and we should torture our children on the possibility of 600 deaths per year. By the way how many deaths are flu and described as covid. I am done.


Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Feb 15, 2022 at 8:56 pm

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0.1% of the covid deaths over 2yrs are children under 18. So 0.1% of the 1% that die of Covid.

Ugh....come on Bob, if you live your life by those odds you can't ever leave your house.


Posted by BobB
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Feb 15, 2022 at 11:05 pm

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@PP and John,

I didn't write anything about any of that. Just that buklau was lying. The CDC does not say covid is no more dangerous than the flu for children. I provided links to show that was the case.


Posted by buklau
a resident of Avila
on Feb 16, 2022 at 2:46 am

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Link to the CDC pdf download saying word for word "The risk of complications for healthy children is higher for flu compared to COVID-19":
Web Link (on page 6)

Bob keeps using strawmans and semantics to divert from the main point:
1) politicians and celebs are around partying and meeting without masks in California, but children are still forced to mask up
2) covid is very mild for children, with under 1k total deaths per year. By bob's logic kids shouldn't be passengers in cars either, as it's more dangerous for them.

If you're scared or sickly, stay home. If you want to live in fear over omicron go ahead. But stop mandating children to go along as it's been 2 years.


Posted by BobB
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Feb 16, 2022 at 8:25 am

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@buklau,

That document is way out of date (August 31, 2020) and has no data from later variants like delta and omicron. It was only based on preliminary studies early in the pandemic. Stop lying.

You used the word "strawman". I don't think it means what you think it means.


Posted by Ennis
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Feb 16, 2022 at 9:30 am

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And while pediatric deaths are considered low, kids were at home during Delta and are now dealing with a far less potent version now back in school. Once again, please remember, kiddos are infecting adults, particularly elderly adults, who are dying. 921,000+, not to mention the impact on huge numbers of people with long Covid or long-term health issues, the impact on teachers, and the medical community. It's always someone else's problem, until it impacts you or your family and not being able to see facial cues or teach choir due to masks pales in comparison to the number of families who have lost a loved one. As usual, it's all about me and my rights while completely ignoring the impact on other people and families. The one positive is that at least we all know who we don't want to engage with in the future which, frankly, is many of you.


Posted by seenalot
a resident of Parkside
on Feb 16, 2022 at 10:16 am

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Teachers don't have the same margin of safety from more serious illness than do the students generally. Since not 100% of eligible students are not vaccinated, unfortunately, those who are don't get the safety they deserve. I think masks should be worn for the rest of the school year to offer a level of protection so that everyone can finish the school year successfully, including the teachers, and if they get sick, the subs.


Posted by Jake Waters
a resident of Birdland
on Feb 16, 2022 at 10:43 am

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BobB is being BobB.

The majority of child deaths is extremely low that are reported as Covid deaths. A large number of these kids died ‘not’ because of Covid, but ‘with’ Covid. They expired due to co-morbidities. Remember, the CDC played games with these deaths for everyone. If they came in with a shotgun blow to the chest and died, it was recorded as a Covid death. Primarily to keep the fear going, and up the return of dollars to the hospitals.

As to the parents standing up to unmask their children I say bravo. The government has already done enough to damage them. This is over people. The scary part is that Project Veritas has just released another recording of a FDA manager indicating that the Biden administration will be coming out with annual shots for everyone and kids.

Web Link


Posted by BobB
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Feb 16, 2022 at 12:05 pm

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@Jake Waters,

Buklau wasn't claiming the CDC was wrong or inaccurate. He was claiming that they were saying something that they were not saying. Make whatever claims you want about the CDC, but they weren't saying what buklau was saying.

The CDC does not say that covid is less dangerous than the flu for children.


Posted by buklau
a resident of Avila
on Feb 16, 2022 at 12:52 pm

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CDC official quote: "The risk of complications for healthy children is higher for flu compared to COVID-19". Meanwhile omicron is even mild more than ever.

Bob's source is sciencebasedmedicine which is some random site owned by New England Skeptical Society; I'll trust the CDC website.

But he can't stay on point. Won't address all the celebs and politicians out partying with no masks. He never wants this to end. He wants to have children masked up forever which makes him feel safer.

And remember, the mask mandates end today. For all who aren't scared, feel free to walk into stores maskless and unafraid ;)


Posted by BobB
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Feb 16, 2022 at 1:24 pm

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@buklau,

Once again, your CDC link was way out of date. It's from August 31, 2020. It was based on preliminary studies and the original wild type virus, not the variants.

I posted two links directly to the CDC which back up the real data showing 1200 pediatric deaths from covid, and six deaths from influenza in the same period. The CDC does not say covid is less dangerous for children than the flu. That paper that you posted a link to is way out of date.


Posted by Kevin
a resident of Castlewood
on Feb 16, 2022 at 5:01 pm

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More misinformation from the usual suspects. Thank you BobB for doing what PW is not doing.


Posted by buklau
a resident of Avila
on Feb 16, 2022 at 8:03 pm

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Hey Bob how come your're there not saying a word watching celebs/politicians all gathering maskless but our children need to mask up for 8 hours a day 5 days a week?

Rules for thee not for me :)


Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Feb 16, 2022 at 8:35 pm

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Ah kevin, no content, no sources, just increasing the volume of the echo in the chamber.


Posted by BobB
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Feb 16, 2022 at 10:29 pm

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@buklau,

I haven't offered an opinion on any of that or anything else except that what you were saying was not true.