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Continue masking for those that chose to Not get Vaccinated..What?!

Original post made by Claudette McDermott, Del Prado, on Jul 16, 2021

What?! After all the fuss about "I have a right not to wear a mask or choice of not to get a vaccine," we are now being forced to wear a mask for them?????

No one can make you put your arm out to get vaccinated, so you need to live with your choice and the consequences which come from that choice.

I don't feel those of us who DID make the choice to get vaccinated, who DID mask early on in this pandemic, who DID keep distant from friends/family and basically lived like shut ins, should now be made to wear a mask for those that didn't.

In the News: CDC Recommendations
"Out of an abundance of caution, people are recommended to wear masks indoors in settings like grocery or retail stores, theaters, and family entertainment centers, even if they are fully vaccinated as an added layer of protection for unvaccinated residents."

I've earned the right to not wear a mask after following all the rules and recommendations for the past year and a half!

Comments

Posted by buklau
a resident of Avila
on Jul 17, 2021 at 1:26 am

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When it comes to terminating a life in the womb - "my body my choice!"

When it comes to a new RNA injection without long term side effect testing - "vaccine mandates now!"


Posted by Jake Waters
a resident of Birdland
on Jul 17, 2021 at 8:18 am

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You are not wearing a mask for anybody but yourself. Don’t blame reasonable informed people who make a choice based on the research out there that you choose to dismiss. Furthermore, after a year and a half of these disingenuous policies we now know that wearing a mask does nothing except give you a rash and increase the amount of CO2 in your blood. This decision is not routed in science or data. Fear is the leading cause behind this mandate, and it is used as a decisive mechanism to divide us and cause hatred of those that refuse to participate in the experimental gene therapy.


Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 17, 2021 at 2:14 pm

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@buklau,

If you don't want a mRNA, you can choose a viral vector vaccine:

Web Link

Both are readily available. Soon Novavax may join the list of available vaccines in the USA, and it uses subunit protein.

As to mandating vaccines, our schools have been doing that for more than 100 years. The Supreme Court of the United States ruled in 1905 that vaccine mandates are constitutional and the decision was unanimously upheld in 1922 in Zucht v. King.

Web Link

Even founding father George Washington required a very crude form of smallpox inoculations for his troops.

Web Link

I'm so glad my son's college is requiring vaccines for on campus attendance.

Bottom line -- Get vaccinated. Good for you. Good for America. Good for the world.


Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 17, 2021 at 2:21 pm

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Jake Waters:

You said:

"... we now know that wearing a mask does nothing except give you a rash and increase the amount of CO2 in your blood..."

This is wrong and this is misinformation. Pleasanton Weekly please take notice.

You also said:

"...refuse to participate in the experimental gene therapy."

This is more misinformation. No one is being asked or required to participate in any kind of "gene therapy". None of the available vaccines or treatments for COVID-19 are designed to manipulate the genetic sequence in any of a patient's cells. They simply don't do that. To say that they do is flat out wrong.

Again, Pleasanton Weekly please take notice.


Posted by SteveM
a resident of Sycamore Heights
on Jul 17, 2021 at 4:15 pm

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Sometimes you have to do the right thing, even for those who may not deserve it.


Posted by Michael Austin
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jul 17, 2021 at 4:16 pm

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Jake have you been vaccinated?


Posted by John
a resident of Birdland
on Jul 18, 2021 at 9:26 am

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The mandates are in a constant state of flux. A lot of power hungry politicians. It is a free country. Get vaccinated if you want, take your chances if you don't. If you have a vaccine you are supposedly protected so what do you care if someone else doesn't JW has a right to free speech and his opinions. There is proof to support some and not others. BobB is trying to stifle free speech. Only time will tell about this vaccination. It is your choice so take it and quit trying to control others.


This is wrong and this is misinformation. Pleasanton Weekly please take notice on BobB's posts.

MA. Yes I am vaccinated if you are wondering.


Posted by John
a resident of Birdland
on Jul 18, 2021 at 9:34 am

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Some of the people on here will make good Marxist Comrades for the takeover.


Posted by Claudette McDermott
a resident of Del Prado
on Jul 18, 2021 at 10:22 am

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The major problem happening is MisInformation, being pushed by ignorance of the facts on the way this vaccine works.

99.5% of those now getting infected, said by the US Surgeon General this morning, are those that are NOT vaccinated.

Inaction can cost you and your loved ones Long Term illness, and possible death. Why risk it?? Not worth thew Risk!


Posted by John
a resident of Birdland
on Jul 18, 2021 at 11:23 am

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People engage in risky behavior everyday. Drugs, alcohol, skydiving, speeding,deep sea diving, motorcycle racing. Most of us do not, but it is their choice and they live with the consequences. Why take the risk? Who knows. Human nature, stupidity, fear. Again their choice. If you are vaccinated you supposedly are safe so leave it alone. This vaccine is a experimental with less than a year of development. Who knows the long term effects. What you call misinformation may be the truth. Like the Wuhan lab release that was misinformaton and now seems to be true. No, I don't want to debate it. Do what you want but stop lecturing.
Yes, I am vaccinated, but only because I am old.


Posted by Claudette McDermott
a resident of Del Prado
on Jul 18, 2021 at 11:59 am

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John this is a forum for discussion so don't look at it as lecturing :) You can easily turn the page and move on if you don't want to hear the opposition.

Sharing our voices and opinions are a very democratic way of society in the USA.

John If you truly felt like the vaccine was not a good thing, and believed all the misinformation out there, you would not have vaccinated.

I'm happy there was doubt enough and enough facts out there that you Did get your vaccination. So leave the door open to others that feel the same way you do.


Posted by Claudette McDermott
a resident of Del Prado
on Jul 18, 2021 at 12:00 pm

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John this is a forum for discussion so don't look at it as lecturing :) You can easily turn the page and move on if you don't want to hear the opposition.

Sharing our voices and opinions without threat or fear is the way of society in the USA.

John If you truly felt like the vaccine was not a good thing, and believed all the misinformation out there, you would not have vaccinated.

I'm happy there was doubt enough and enough facts out there that you Did get your vaccination. So leave the door open to others that feel the same way you do.


Posted by Claudette McDermott
a resident of Del Prado
on Jul 18, 2021 at 12:01 pm

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sorry for the double posting....there was an error message so I thought it didn't go through :)


Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 18, 2021 at 1:35 pm

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Opinions are different from facts. None of the vaccines are gene therapy. That is a fact not an opinion. Pleasanton weekly is under no obligation to allow misinformation on their forum. I am here to stifle misinformation and untruths.


Posted by buklau
a resident of Avila
on Jul 18, 2021 at 1:45 pm

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Bob is mysteriously silent about the vaccine heart inflammation, blood clots, and facial nerve palsy. All for a virus less deadly for children than the flu (CDC data).

The reality is that Bob is an unpaid salesman for big pharma and msm talking points. He won't acknowledge any negative effects from the vax, won't talk about how children are all but safe from the virus, and even though there's no long term side effect data...he wants jab mandates for even children.


Posted by Claudette McDermott
a resident of Del Prado
on Jul 18, 2021 at 2:32 pm

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All medications and vaccines have risk, but without them many more would die and our lives would be much shorter.

Imagine a world without doctors or medications or vaccines.

Seriously?! We'd be back in the dark ages.


Posted by John
a resident of Birdland
on Jul 18, 2021 at 2:56 pm

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CM. You are lecturing and don't realize it or won't admit it. I am not taking sides on the vaccine. I am saying there are pros and cons. If you want it take it. If you do not want it do not take it. That is called choice. I am not saying we should not have vaccines, quite the contrary. I am saying we have choices. So please pay attention and let people make their own choice. BobB you are not the misinformation police are you? You should continue to wear a mask, wash your hands and socially distance for the rest of your life.


Imagine a world without doctors or medications or vaccines.

Where did that come from? Someone point our where that was said in the discussion, or is that more misinformation.


Posted by Mica
a resident of Alisal Elementary School
on Jul 18, 2021 at 3:01 pm

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We all got vaccinations for smallpox, measles and polio when we were kids. And I don’t think at 65 I’ll be beamed up to the mothership anytime soon.


Posted by John
a resident of Birdland
on Jul 18, 2021 at 3:19 pm

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Those were well tested vaccines and used the virus itself for antibodies. There was and is no law requiring them. Everyone did not get one. You have to have them to go most public schools but you can home school or private school so again it is a choice. All I am saying is individuals should be able to make their own choices.


Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 18, 2021 at 4:31 pm

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buklau said:

"The reality is that Bob is an unpaid salesman for big pharma and msm talking points. "

That is nothing but a lie. You have no problem spreading misinformation, and now you have no problem making up lies.


Posted by Get the Facts
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 18, 2021 at 7:59 pm

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To correct something a previous poster said: "99.5% of those now getting infected, said by the US Surgeon General this morning, are those that are NOT vaccinated."

This is close, but not quite correct. New cases of Coronavirus coming from those who are vaccinated is 0.08%. Less than one-tenth of one percent. Get vaccinated everyone. Numbers are going up, but in Alameda County less than 50% of people are vaccinated. Sad, but Covid will be around until more get vaccinated, more die, or a combination of the two.


Posted by Jake Waters
a resident of Birdland
on Jul 18, 2021 at 11:41 pm

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Stop with the manipulative language of ‘misinformation.’ It’s not misinformation just because it doesn’t fit your narrative. Bob, you like to play High Tech sensor on social media where it’s an irresponsible behavior on your part. Furthermore, stop using the word ‘vaccine.’ It’s not a vaccine. It’s an experimental biological agent created through an emergency order.


Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 19, 2021 at 9:08 am

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Jake Waters,

They are vaccines. That is a fact, not opinion. They aren't "gene therapy". That's a fact, not "narrative". Stop spreading anti-vax misinformation.


Posted by Ndna Jnz
a resident of Mohr Park
on Jul 19, 2021 at 10:33 am

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Claudette merely posted her own opinion about wearing a mask for the unvaccinated. I agree with her on that; however, I am continuing to wear a mask first and foremost for myself, and secondary for everyone else. We don't yet know for certain if vaccinated people can transmit the variants; "unlikely" yes, but not for certain.

I also applaud Claudette for her polite replies and remaining civil to those posts attacking her. (I do not know Claudette.)

So much misinformation being posted in this thread. None of those posts name where their info came from. In reality though, I'm not sure it matters, as I don't think this misinformation will change any minds of intelligent Pleasanton residents.

I believe in freedom of speech. However, since the PW has (rightfully) removed the "Like" button, I would like to propose to the Weekly, the addition of a "Misinformation" button with a '+' and a '-' such as those that appear on Reddit, Quora, YouTube, etc.


Posted by Jeremy Walsh, editor
a resident of another community
on Jul 19, 2021 at 10:57 am

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I am temporarily pausing this thread, with the potential for permanent closure. While part of the reason is the number of "flags" or emails questioning the veracity of information in some respondents' comments, which would take substantial staff time to analyze, I am more making this decision because of the rude back-and-forths that have developed among commenters in the thread and stalled constructive conversation -- which are indicative of the types of disrespectful or unfair banter our new Town Square guidelines were implemented to help avoid.

That said, as always, any reader who wants to share their opinion (rooted in fact and fair perspective) can email me a Letter to the Editor of 250 words maximum with their first and last names for full attribution in our print paper.

Thank you,
Jeremy Walsh, editor