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Can we all transition out of using incandescent Christmas lights?

Original post made by Ryan, Downtown, on Dec 3, 2010

Does anyone else feel there is a lot of energy being wasted on xmas lights? They're pretty, but I'd sure like to see people avoid using them, or transition to LEDs. A city like Pleasanton could take the lead in such an effort.


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Posted by Me Too
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 3, 2010 at 8:32 pm

Are you suggesting that the city of Pleasanton ban incandescent Christmas lights?

While I agree that switching to LEDs is a good idea, its something that certainly does not need to be regulated by a government agency.

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Posted by mellow fellow
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 3, 2010 at 10:41 pm

Now here's a thought. Every liquor store should turn off their coolers for a day. That would probably more than cover a 1000x's the electric usage of Christmas lights ... wait ... turn off the Christmas lights too. That's even better.

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Posted by good luck with that
a resident of Downtown
on Dec 4, 2010 at 7:31 am

Wait a minute here. This is the town where the soccer mommies drive their entitled brats to school in SUVs because the kiddies can't walk 3 blocks and you think you can convince them to conserve energy???? ROFL.

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Posted by Rather not worry
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 4, 2010 at 11:34 pm

Well, if santa's listening, I'd sure like enough nuclear plants so we wouldn't give such triffles any thoughts....

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Posted by radical
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 5, 2010 at 10:31 am

i do not agree that the energy is wasted

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Posted by Maja7
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Dec 6, 2010 at 9:23 am

Wasted energy?? Who gets to define what's "wasting"? You? The City of P-town? What about the simple enjoyment/pleasure Christmas light displays bring to children & adults? Let's not go crazy on this conservation band wagon. The use LED lights should remain as is, solely voluntary.Sounds like you wouldn't object to light displays being banned altogether. What's next?Regulating how many hours per day the electricity is on? Wait isn't that how it is in third world countries?

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Posted by SteveP
a resident of Parkside
on Dec 6, 2010 at 9:25 am

SteveP is a registered user.

LED lights are fine for traffic signals and disco lights, but not for Christmas lights. They just don't look right and are certainly not traditional (which is one of the charms of the season). If you have an issue with making you P.G. & E. payments, maybe you should try candles instead. Otherwise, worry about yourself and get over your 'incandescent guilt'.

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Posted by Nosy Neighbors
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Dec 6, 2010 at 11:12 pm

I'd really like to see a comprehensive assessment of not just the ROI associated with the consumers energy usage of LED lighting but especially the higher manufacturing costs and use of expendable materials in LED lighting. It's all fine and dandy when you can say "I'm saving on our energy bill AND saving the planet" but when that comes with a 4-5+ year initial return on just the consumer purchase, added to a 20-25% increased cost in the manufacturing alone the "green" Christmas light argument goes completely without merit. If you ask me of course.

Now about all those poor helpless pine, fir and other trees mercilessly cut down to satisfy the seasonal whims of the non-pagans out there, now THERE'S a travesty!

...just kidding, Merry Christmas & lighten up P-Town!

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Posted by Fred
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 16, 2010 at 2:06 am

At least you can put them up. In our HOA, the residents for the last few years havn't been able to put them up.

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Posted by Kristen
a resident of Downtown
on Dec 17, 2013 at 9:05 am

Oh good Lord - It is for what....3 weeks or so at the most every year? If you are really saying that lights should basically be banned and are unnecessary, I am pretty sure 90% of Americans would's part of Christmas....Mr. Scrooge!!! (there's a great old movie you could watch that may help your negativity during the holiday season!)

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Posted by laughing too
a resident of Downtown
on Dec 17, 2013 at 10:26 am

GLWT has it right. In the great overly entitled land of Pleasantville the soccer mommies would never expect their little geniuses to actually expend any energy to walk somewhere. And the soccer mommies simply CANNOT give up their status of driving the biggest most useless SUVs on earth. And you think you could convince them to use energy efficient lights? Too funny for words.

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Posted by liberalism is a disease
a resident of Birdland
on Dec 17, 2013 at 12:18 pm

liberalism is a disease is a registered user.

What do SUVs and Pleasanton mothers have to do with government control over our Christmas displays? What's really funny is the class envy displayed by those who can't succeed on their own, so they try to drag everyone down to their level. Sad and pathetic......

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Posted by Me
a resident of Downtown
on Dec 17, 2013 at 7:09 pm

Okay, if anyone thinks that the city government should legislate the type of Christmas lights we use then I'm going to oppose by pulling out of my garage all my ancient lights and lighting up my house with as many as I can. We truly don't need the damn government to make every decision in the way we choose to live our lives. I will thank them to stay the hell out of my Christmas decor.

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Posted by Sasha B.
a resident of Valley Trails
on Dec 17, 2013 at 8:08 pm

In response to Good Luck With That, us Mommies drive our kids to school to keep them out of the hands of Murderers and Pedophiles. I lived in the neighborhood where that poor 21 year old girl was pulled into the van and murdered at the hands of animals. Three blocks from Donlon School at 7:30 a.m. This world has left us no choice.

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Posted by Monster Truck
a resident of Kottinger Ranch
on Dec 17, 2013 at 10:12 pm

Doesn't the new Pleasanton car (Tesla) suck up a lot of energy? What about the ugly Prius car?
The Prius people pick the kids up from the Library and go right home. No SUV needed when you
sit at home all the time. Toss another log on the fire leave the lights on and enjoy the finer things
in life.

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Posted by Another mom
a resident of Foothill High School
on Dec 18, 2013 at 9:32 am

Sasha has nailed it. Mine is I'm high school without a driver's license yet, and yes, I drive her to and from school every day. The bus stop is way too far for me to allow her to walk there alone and wait. I actually don't let her walk anywhere outside alone. She's barely five feet and weighs 100 pounds all wet. I do allow her to hang out downtown and the mall and such with friends, but walking alone where there's minimal traffic.....oh hell no. I realize I can't protect her 24:7, but anything I can do to keep her safe, I do. Maybe instead of judging those of us that take the time and effort to get our kids to and from safely, we should be asking about the parents that allow their children, and I see them very young, not being watched over and being put in potential danger.