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New law requires drug makers to pay for Alameda County disposal program

Original post made on Jul 25, 2012

The Alameda County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously Tuesday to pass the nation's first ordinance requiring drug makers to pay for programs to dispose of expired and unused drugs..

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, July 25, 2012, 7:33 AM

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Posted by liberalism is a disease
a resident of Birdland
on Jul 25, 2012 at 8:20 am

liberalism is a disease is a registered user.

This latest nanny state regulation will be directly passed on to consumers. Our brother, Nate, loses nothing by promoting this latest govt debacle--you see, big pharma won't contribute money to him, so he's going to punish them. In doing so, he will drive up the price of medications that primarily impact the poor and senior citizens. Then, when his constituents complain, he'll just point to big, bad pharma as the culprit. Right out of the dem's so good for the predictable.

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Posted by Randy
a resident of Mission Park
on Jul 25, 2012 at 8:25 am

I do see the need for removing the unwanted drugs from our homes, out of the hands of potential illegal users and that there is a big chunk of tax payer money going towards doing this, but does anyone think this is going to save any money in the long run? The pharmaceutical companies are just going to pass on whatever costs they incur, thereby making medical costs higher than they all ready are. I thought we were living in a time when government was trying to reduce the medical care costs to make it more affordable to all, when intact this action by the Supervisors will do the opposite. Other counties and states will look at doing the same law over and over again making the costs huge. Another pass the buck regulation by our government officials.

Regarding this story it would be nice if there was a link to the 28 facilities to deposit unused drugs in. I am unaware of any in Pleasanton, maybe you could provide that information to us please. A future idea might be to provide envelopes with each prescription to mail in "left overs" like how printer cartridge companies do it. That way they get mailed back to the medication providers or producers. But then this probably violates some postal law or something.

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Posted by Arnold
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 25, 2012 at 8:54 am

This is a classic case of the state putting public safety concerns ahead of personal wealth. Of course the mandated getting rid of the drugs will promote health and safety within the county.

But the Nanny State has put us on the horns of a dilemma. Either we pay the county $330,000.00 to dispose of the drugs, or we have private companies do it and pass along the cost via higher prices for drugs. Neither is optimal. The more optimal route is to not deal with the drugs at all.

We can't be expected to have to pay an extra 1% for drugs just because it promotes safety and health. That is highway robbery. This is was I have been preaching for months now. The nanny state is facing a tsunami of unfunded liabilities (like drug disposal sites) and so passes the cost on to the taxpayer. There's only the ILLUSION of saving money. Until the state realizes what the Constitution says -- money before safety and health -- we're going to be swept away in a rising sea of debt.

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Posted by Lori A. Perry
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 25, 2012 at 9:55 am

The board of Alameda County Board of Supervisors the vote of place to define the first ordinance to up front a terms of disposal regards of drug left to expire or drugs in a major quantity to have beyond expired date. One problem with the conclusive nature of fact is that delta rim in the web of plate lets of soil of building the land file. If the prescriptions are place into our beautiful toilets to seize the issue of disposal. The individuals that flush those toilets into the pipes that go into the bun tubs of swirl to liquid and turn the waste to slug. The basis of this is to create a paste in the form of land fill. When the land fill absorbs the nature water into the tunnels of the springs to transfer the chemicals into the what is suppose to be filed waters that the tax payers have in their monthly taxes for the water aqua duck. In this proposal passed the disposal of fact is a great idea, but now the employees of your local disposal will know everyone business in terms of whom is one Vacdin or Vellum. In terms what fault was the purity of the system before, in question, to determine the false impression to the local water in blood test or unreal qualities of illness in the local community. That Question should be another article to have sight of the public of Pleasanton area.

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Posted by Makes sense to me
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 25, 2012 at 11:07 am

We take ours liquids to the hazardous waste site in Livermore once a year. Some pharmacies (Custom Care on 1st St.) will take the left over pills and recycle the pill containers. I don't see the problem here, as pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money - anyone know the mark-up on brand name perscriptions?!

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Posted by Gordy
a resident of another community
on Jul 25, 2012 at 11:54 am

By the looks of some of these responses, it appears the unwanted drugs are finding their way into some P-town denizens' hands.

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Posted by mom
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 25, 2012 at 5:25 pm

Yeah.... the pharma companies will raise their prices... only because this gives them the opportunity to do so. We already pay the highest dug prices in the world..... I worked at a pharmaceutical company. THere is so much waste in those companies. It is ridiculous. And we are all paying for it...anyone who gets a prescription.

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Posted by Steve
a resident of Parkside
on Jul 25, 2012 at 6:39 pm

Mom, please elaborate regarding your knowledge of the internal processes at any drug company that has 'so much waste'.
Why would you expect them to absorb additional expenses just because some two bit politician says they should?

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Posted by Mom
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 25, 2012 at 9:34 pm

I've worked at one of the top drug companies, as a temp then as a permanent employee. Have you? I worked in clinical research....
I don't know where to start..... Let's see... our division director was served a full pot of coffee in his office every morning (caterer's cost was $9 a pot) and this was delivered every morning even when he was not in the office and it went cold. Every employee had a laser printer at their desk, as well as 3 large printers for the dept. At meetings we ordered cookies and sodas from the caterer (at least $1 each. In the morning we had bagels or pastries and juice/coffee. Execs had country club memberships paid for. T-shirts galore for everything. That doesn't even touch what they did for investigators at their study kick off meetings or what kind of hotels those were held in. Additionally, we were so over staffed. These are all rolled into 'drug development' costs.
What's your experience.

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Posted by Arnold
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 26, 2012 at 7:26 am


After extensive tallying up of your words, simple as well as polysyllabic, I arrive at the following:

What in the heck is your point? What KIND of cookies? And what about those who wanted decaf?

Do you really want to compare heroic job creating pharma companies with two-bit politicians voted in by a doofus citizenry?

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Posted by Steve
a resident of Parkside
on Jul 26, 2012 at 10:27 am

Mom, have you worked anywhere else, like for a large multinational company? Doesn't sound like it if you're making a big deal out of a few perks used as an incentive to improve workplace conditions.
I work for a multinational payroll and HR software and service firm and what you described is commonplace, not only here, but in other large companies.
Every item you described could probably be eliminated very easily, but do you really think they'd have much impact on the bottom line? I can understand you coveting all these perks if you're not entitled to them, after all, these days it's very fashoanable to play the class envy card. But, in the overall scheme of things, the perks you mentioned amount to nothing larger than a rounding error on a company's bottom line.
And, in the end, increases in a company's costs to do business will be passed on to the consumer, without exception.

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Posted by steve
a resident of Parkside
on Jul 26, 2012 at 11:51 am

Also, Mom, I'm surprised you didn't bring up record proffits and take-home salaries for drug company CEOs. But hear I'll head you off at the pass. Don't you realize that CEO salaries in the tens of millions is just a little perk like so many other perks that large corporations use to make life pleasant for everyone?

Its not as if the corporation ADD ON any of these little perks to drug costs! And how does this compare to public school teachers being able to take taxpayer paid lunch breaks during there rains of incompitancy?

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Posted by ca94566
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 27, 2012 at 10:33 am

I was told years ago, to place expired meds in USED coffee grounds and throw them in the wet garbage I dispose of the containers at the pharmacy

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