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Occupiers join march to Castlewood Country Club

Original post made on Mar 1, 2012

Between 300 and 350 people turned out for last weekend's Occupy Pleasanton event to protest the lockout of workers from Castlewood Country Club, now in its second year.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, March 1, 2012, 7:47 AM

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Posted by Golf is life
a resident of Downtown
on Mar 1, 2012 at 9:17 am

How dare these people fight for livable wages and health insurance for workers! Don’t they know the needs of spoiled frat boy golfers come first? Don’t they know us polo shirt wearing, khaki pants warriors won’t stand for this? I wish I could elaborate more on this issue, but I need to go visit some right-wing websites to find talking points to rationalize my conservative selfishness. I also have to go buy a fancy new gas bbq with the money I saved not having to pay a school parcel tax. Romney 2012!

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Posted by Kangaroo
a resident of another community
on Mar 1, 2012 at 11:15 am


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Posted by mike
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 1, 2012 at 12:31 pm

Move along folks, nothing to see here but tired old news.

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Posted by steve
a resident of Parkside
on Mar 1, 2012 at 1:55 pm

Golf is life---please grow up. Hitch up your big boy pants (they don't have to be khakis) and get over your envy of people who work hard to succeed. You can't honestly believe your childish rants is going to impact the CW members one bit. Don't burn you bridges, you may be looking for a job cleaning their pools one day......

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Posted by Dead-eye Paul
a resident of Castlewood
on Mar 1, 2012 at 3:12 pm

Why should I care about others' inability to receive fair living wages and health insurance? You don't want to compare that to the importance of my golf game, do you? What a bunch of jealous people trying to become part of my world. Grow up! Learn how to support your family on less than a fair living wage, instead of thinking you deserve a fair living wage for a fair day's work!

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Posted by Larry Ferderber
a resident of Rosepointe
on Mar 1, 2012 at 4:48 pm

Vintage Foster’s statements, if true, are very telling. From them we conclude that the Union proposal may be high, but not better than some clubs in the area and that Castlewood could move in the direction the of the union proposal by raising coverage for families, while lowering coverage for individuals, and be more consistent with other East Bay Country Clubs, at no net increase in costs. Seems like there is room for negotiation on health care.

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Posted by Me
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Mar 1, 2012 at 8:23 pm

Maybe it is time for them to do what the rest of us did when we lost our our jobs. Go get a new one and get over it. I loved the job I had three years ago. I now have a new job I love.

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Posted by Dead-Eye Paul
a resident of Castlewood
on Mar 1, 2012 at 9:55 pm

One of my polo chaps has a distant cousin who lost a job three years ago. Still in the unemployment lines. Apparently he loves it. And he's completely over the job he once had.

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Posted by mike
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2012 at 8:26 am

Steve and Dead Eye,

Better yet, develop the skills necessary to get a better job, join Castlewood and come play golf with us!

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Posted by Cathy
a resident of Carriage Gardens
on Mar 2, 2012 at 8:43 am

What no one ever seems to mention is that every single locked out employee has another job now, none are unemployed. Most of the picketers you see on any given day are not former employees but Union workers paid to walk the picket line. The insurance benefits that Castlewood is offering the Union employees is the exact same benefit that every other Castlewood employee at every level receives. The Union wants their people to receive a better benefit then anyone else that works there. I'm a Democrat which historically means I support the Union but the only people that I see being helped by Unions nowadays is the Union itself. I realize that these are low wages employees and they can't afford high level insurance, most restaurant workers in the area don't get any kind of health care at all so Castlewood has long taken good care of their employees. In the current economy every company, including the one I work for, has had to ask workers to take on more of the health care cost burden and Castlewood is not different. Look at the whole picture please, not everyone that belongs to Castlewood is a "polo shirt wearing frat boy", most are two income families that work more than 40 hour weeks and this is where they choose to spend their entertainment budget.

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Posted by Westside Observer
a resident of Oak Hill
on Mar 2, 2012 at 9:28 am

Aint Marxism grand?

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Posted by Chris
a resident of Stoneridge
on Mar 2, 2012 at 9:57 am

Read the story. Union won't let it's members vote on the last offer.

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Posted by Tomisato
a resident of Castlewood
on Mar 2, 2012 at 12:06 pm

Why don't you all find another subject to write about. The dispute is over. The Union has lost and the Union protestors and the Castlewood residents are releived. Basically, the Unions in Pleasanton are finished.

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Posted by Glenn Wohltmann
Pleasanton Weekly staff reporter
on Mar 2, 2012 at 12:29 pm

Glenn Wohltmann is a registered user.

Please note the piece has been updated with information from the union.

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Posted by Dead-Eye Paul
a resident of Castlewood
on Mar 2, 2012 at 3:21 pm

The newspaper says 350-400 protesters, but a contributer says it was only about 70. I believe the contributor.

The newspaper says that a majority of the workers voted on their current leadership. A contributor says that unions are bad and won't let their members vote. I believe the contributor.

The newspaper says that the club's yearly membership dues have plummeted from 85 grand to 11 grand. A contributor says the unions lost this battle and are dead. Yep. I believe the contributor. I always come to this site for the facts rather than the newspaper. The newspaper reporters are infected with a lamestream bias and never print the truth.

Unions are bad, really, really bad.

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Posted by Big Picture
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2012 at 5:05 pm

As usual, what's in the press is the "front of house story." Behind the scenes there is typically a much bigger play being made. The obvious is: Yes, employees are impacted when benefits are cut; Yes, golfing has declined so revenues are down significantly; Yes, reasonable people can reach a compromise. The behind the scenes big picture - Union membership is declining around America except in one sector - government jobs. With government cutbacks looming, the next best opportunity for Union expansion is in areas where elected officials will force private enterprise into Union contracts. We should anticipate that our elected officials will work to force an agreement - either in front of the cameras or behind the scenes. Much like the ongoing Safeway issue, CWCC will eventually need something from government & politicians will then force CWCC to work with the Union. Stay tuned.

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Posted by Steve
a resident of Parkside
on Mar 2, 2012 at 6:56 pm

Thanks for the invite, mike but I would rather play softball than golf. Sports are much easier with bigger balls.
By the way, as much as the union thinks they are responsible for a decline in membership, it's the Obama recession that has caused the decline.

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Posted by To steve
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2012 at 7:27 pm

The Obama/Biden administration has been funding public employee union pay with grant funding. A huge chunk of the stimulus package went directly toward funding unions so they wouldn't face layoffs or the natural market corrections the private sector endured. Cities that couldn't afford to provide pay & benefits suddenly had money to subsidize salaries (for three years). Unfortunately, or fortunately, the continuation of the recession will expose the nonsense as we near the end of the subsidy and cities & counties are forced to pay the full tab; which will show a spike in employee costs.

If you could just layoff the employees that were funded through federal grants because you couldn't afford them in the first place it wouldn't be a big deal. But the grant funding that pays about two thirds of employee costs over three years requires the agency to provide continued employment for an additional three years. Since most cities & counties used the funding so they wouldn't have to ask for employee concessions, while hoping the economy would recover, the financial problem is just compounding.

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Posted by Rest of the Story
a resident of California Reflections
on Mar 2, 2012 at 8:16 pm

Every time this story runs again with the usual leftist viewpoint of the P.W., they conveniently omit the fact that the former union employees of CCC have never been permitted by their union bosses to vote on even one offer from CCC. The real bad guy here is not the locked out workers or the CCC management, but rather the union bosses in Oakland. Not only have workers never been permitted to vote on any CCC contract offer, the union bosses in Oakland even refused to produce a counter offer prior to the lockout. That is the reason that CCC decided to force the issue with the lockout--and only after some six to nine months with no contract and no willingness on the part of the union bosses to negotiate one. Now the workers are petitioning their union bosses to let them vote. Come on P.W., hire a real reporter and report what is really going on here.

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Posted by Wake Up
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 3, 2012 at 12:35 pm

The locked out workers need to wake up and get their Union to act in their best interest! They need to vote on the contract offer that is on the table. If they approve the offer they are back to work the next day. If they reject it then that puts the Club on notice that they better move off of their position. The Union has NEVER let the employees vote on any contract offer. A vote on decertification is not a vote on the proposal that was made by the club.
The Union says that they are representing the 99%. Sad news for the employees is that they are being lead by some of the 1%. I am sure that the Union leader’s income is equal to that of many of the members at the country club; they just chose to spend their entertainment dollars on some sort of other activity. The only losers here are the locked out employees, the Union leaders are still getting paid their full salaries while some of the employees have had to live on unemployment and part time work. Heck the Union hasn't found even one of the locked out workers a job in 2 years. If the Union really cared for the employees wouldn’t they find them another job at a union shop somewhere??

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Posted by Steve
a resident of Parkside
on Mar 3, 2012 at 7:03 pm

'to Steve', you didn't mention it, but you must be referring to the payout of GM stock to the auto workers union when the company got bailed out. Even tough many leftists claim the bailout money has been paid back (mostly), the ownership of the company is still in the hands of the govt/union.
I realize you we're trying to be sarcastic, but you only managed to remind posters of the full cost of the govt interference in the private sector auto business.

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Posted by Let them protest
a resident of Castlewood
on Mar 6, 2012 at 7:42 am

What the union also doesn't want to hear is that due to their refusal to bring a offer to their members that they could have voted on over the last 2 years, they have allowed Castlewood the opportunity to go through the hiring/firing/training process with all of the replacement workers. Castlewood's new workforce that is now in place is FAR SUPERIOR to their old workforce. They are happy to be working at Castlewood for the wage and benefits they receive and the membership is happy to have them.

I say let the former union employees continue to protest for as long as they want. It would be terrible to have to go back to the poor union workforce that Castlewood used to have.

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Posted by Mrs. Mittens
a resident of another community
on Mar 6, 2012 at 9:33 am

My family is worth hundreds of millions, but goodness it's not like we're billionaires or anything. In fact, sometimes I feel very similar to the Castlewood and Walmart workers. Because any time the world can change and then we're all alike. I took one of my Detroit manufactured Cadillacs into the shop the other day, and I had to wait almost ten minutes until my driver picked me up in the other Caddy. Those were among the longest ten minutes of my life, because it occurred to me how golly sakes if I weren't me, I'd be like you all. My family could be living below the poverty line too.

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