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Are we celebrating Independence Day or a new DEPENDENCE Day?

Original post made by BringBackIndependence, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Jul 2, 2010

The answer may lie in next November's election. 35% to 45% of Americans want dependence. If you don't you need to vote in November for those who want to stop spending, stop the growth in government, stop weakening our national defense, stop destroying capitalism and the free market, stop making our former allies our enemies ... and our former enemies our new allies. Vote these people OUT if you want America to return to a strong country and the world's beacon of individual freedom.

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Posted by UU
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2010 at 1:56 pm

Get a life loser.

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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jul 2, 2010 at 5:03 pm


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Posted by Totally agree
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2010 at 6:07 pm

We need to make a big change this November. Our children will be paying for this huge mistake for the rest of their lives. I think the people need to set term limits by only allowing someone to stay in office for only 2 terms MAX. It would end a lot of corruption and sneaky deals it should also say that any elected official should have to participate in the "health care mandate" and not be on the people's payroll for the rest of their lives.

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Posted by BringBackIndependence
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2010 at 6:53 pm

Thank you.

BTW: A Republican authored a proposal whereby ALL of Congress must have the same national healthcare coverage that they propose for ordinary Americans.

McNerney specifically voted AGAINST this proposal. Obamacare ... that McNerney unconstitutionally thrust down our throats ... is not good enough for HIM.

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Posted by Common Sense
a resident of Castlewood
on Jul 2, 2010 at 7:10 pm

BringBackIndependence, McNerney voted against it because it was sophomoric.

"that McNerney unconstitutionally thrust down our throats..." I really hope you are not a product of our public education system in Pleasanton, Livermore or Dublin. If you are, then I am pulling my daughter out of Foothill High School. I do not want her to be so, so, so... so DUMB!

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Posted by BringBackIndependence
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2010 at 10:21 pm

Sooo Common (Non)Sense,
Do tell. What specifically do you find in my post above that you consider dumb. Are you defining 'dumb' as inaccurate? If so, what was inaccurate?

1. When the national healthcare bill was sent to the Energy & Commerce Committee (a Committee McNerney is on) one Republican added a proposal to this healthcare bill which would have required Congress to be covered under this healthcare legislation. However, McNerney voted against this provision.

2. There is nothing written in the Constitution which gives the Federal Government the authority to require American citizens to purchase anything. Requiring the purchase of healthcare coverage is beyond the authority of the Federal Govt.

Sooo...I am awaiting your "enlightening" response as to what aspect of my post you consider dumb.

(PS...I consider your ignorance a central reason why this State in particular and Country in general is in such a complete economic mess. Complete idiots who have put us into debt ... mainly democrats...but some republicans (Bush included) have contributed to this mess. However Obama has quadrupled the problem...along with help from his friends like McNerney.)

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Posted by Jane
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2010 at 10:53 pm

"However Obama has quadrupled the problem...along with help from his friends like McNerney." I believe it is the cost of two unnecessary wars that has put us in this hole, not Obama.

It will be generations before this country recovers from the economic and emotional costs of the Republican lead wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. ONE TRILLION dollars down the drain so far that could have gone to build this country into a prosperous, educated, healthy and peaceful nation.

Obama cannot come close to wasting that kind of taxpayer money or American lives. Maybe, just maybe, he is not the devil incarnate, BringBackIndependence.

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Posted by BringBackIndependence
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2010 at 11:43 pm


You didn't answer my question. Explain your comment regarding "dumb" and that you hoped I wasn't a product of your left leaning government schools here.

By the way... here is more info below regarding Obama "quadrupling the debt" as you incredulously referenced above.


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Obama has repeatedly claimed that his budget would cut the deficit by half by the end of his term. But as Heritage analyst Brian Riedl has pointed out, given that Obama has already helped quadruple the deficit with his stimulus package, pledging to halve it by 2013 is hardly ambitious. The Washington Post has a great graphic which helps put President Obama’s budget deficits in context of President Bush’s.

What’s driving Obama’s unprecedented massive deficits? Spending. Riedl details:

President Bush expanded the federal budget by a historic $700 billion through 2008. President Obama would add another $1 trillion.

President Bush began a string of expensive finan cial bailouts. President Obama is accelerating that course.

President Bush created a Medicare drug entitle ment that will cost an estimated $800 billion in its first decade. President Obama has proposed a $634 billion down payment on a new govern ment health care fund.

President Bush increased federal education spending 58 percent faster than inflation. Presi dent Obama would double it.

President Bush became the first President to spend 3 percent of GDP on federal antipoverty programs. President Obama has already in creased this spending by 20 percent.

President Bush tilted the income tax burden more toward upper-income taxpayers. President Obama would continue that trend.

President Bush presided over a $2.5 trillion increase in the public debt through 2008. Setting aside 2009 (for which Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for an additional $2.6 trillion in public debt), President Obama’s budget would add $4.9 trillion in public debt from the beginning of 2010 through 2016.

UPDATE: Many Obama defenders in the comments are claiming that the numbers above do not include spending on Iraq and Afghanistan during the Bush years. They most certainly do. While Bush did fund the wars through emergency supplementals (not the regular budget process), that spending did not simply vanish. It is included in the numbers above. Also, some Obama defenders are claiming the graphic above represents biased Heritage Foundation numbers. While we stand behind the numbers we put out 100%, the numbers, and the graphic itself, above are from the Washington Post. We originally left out the link to WaPo. It has now been added.

CLARIFICATION: Of course, this Washington Post graphic does not perfectly delineate budget surpluses and deficits by administration. President Bush took office in January 2001, and therefore played a lead role in crafting the FY 2002-2008 budgets. Presidents Bush and Obama share responsibility for the FY 2009 budget deficit that overlaps their administrations, before President Obama assumes full budgetary responsibility beginning in FY 2010.

Overall, President Obama’s budget would add twice as much debt as President Bush over the same number of years.

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Posted by Jane
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 3, 2010 at 9:21 am

BBI -- Please reread my post. You did not ask me a question, I did not call you dumb and I never questioned your education.

As for your list of Obama budget sins, it is highly speculative. Language such as Obama "would" do this or that is hardly proof.

Ending the war in Iraq will keep the federal budget from hemorrhaging into further debt and reallocate resources now wasted.

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