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PG&E Smart meters

Original post made by Earl, Laguna Oaks, on Apr 1, 2010

It seems the new smart meter they installed is not generating bills for me. Oh lucky me. Knowing that eventually it would catch up with me and I would get a huge bill I called them this morning to inquire.
They have no idea why I haven't been billed since Feb 4.
She suggested I send in a payment equaling what my bill was in march 2009.
They are going to send someone out to 'check' the meter.
Anyone else having problems with these new "smart" meters???

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Posted by NO trust
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2010 at 3:12 pm

The Ca Pub Util Com hired a company to "test" these no-so-smart meters. It is suppose to be an 'independent' tester. However, I don't trust PUC and more than PG&E....neither have our interests as their main concern.
I trust them SO little, I haven't allowed them to install smartie.

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Posted by boom dizzle
a resident of Parkside
on Apr 1, 2010 at 9:24 pm

avoiding them like the plague!!! heard nothing but negative feedback about the has some good articles that will make you think twice about letting them install a new meter. good luck

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Posted by Repleasnacrat
a resident of Stoneridge
on Apr 1, 2010 at 10:35 pm

you should continue to pay pg&e. i have heard horror stories about prob. pay the same amount as last month, then you wont be stuck with some crazy bill

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Posted by Earl
a resident of Laguna Oaks
on Apr 2, 2010 at 6:34 am

"Let them install the meter".....I didn't get a vote. I came home one day and it was already there. No one asked me!!!

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Posted by Tim
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 2, 2010 at 8:41 am

My meters were installed several months ago. Haven't had any problems, the bills are consisent with the 20 years of gas/electric data I have kept on my computer.

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Posted by tennessee jed
a resident of Jensen Tract
on Apr 2, 2010 at 8:47 am

I was home when the not-smart-meter installer came to my home. I was interested in how the old meter and the new on differed in quality of construction.

When the installer removed the old one, I took notice of the four electrical contacts on the underneath side. These four contacts were silver coated copperbus, and looked to be pristine (no corrosion or evidence electrical arching)condition. The new one had nickle plated contacts and had sharp edges and corners, while the old one, had nice smoothly round edges and corners and no burrs.

While the first new meter being installed, the installer looked to be having problems getting it to "fit". She began to slam her fist against the face of the meter trying to force it into place. Not gentile impacts, but good ole UFC "hammer fist" punches. Five, six, seven would not seat at all!

Giving up on the new meter, she tossed it aside and exclaimed " Damn meters are a piece of junk!", and thru it into a cardboard box with 5 or 6 other discarded smart meters units.

She had the same results with the second and third meters! Finally, the fourth meter seated with one heavy blow.

I wonder, how good could the meters with such poor quality control for fit, be any better on the power metering circuit, and readout. Are they durable and sturdy enough to survive the installation? Would you slam an electrical/computer device that way and expect it to perform to spec?

I have received my first bill, with a full billing cycle, and it was up $128.00 from last years bill. How could that be? My normal and usual activities have not changed markedly in the last year, only the amount of my "bill".

I am not happy!

T Jed

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Posted by Lee
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 2, 2010 at 9:33 am

I came home one day about 4 months ago to find a notice on my front door that PG&E had installed a new Smart Meter. I have kept a close eye on the bill since then. So far the bill is about the same as last year at this time, so I can't complain. Let's see how much it is in the summer when our air is on all day!

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Posted by Kate
a resident of Fairlands Elementary School
on Apr 2, 2010 at 10:37 am

Our meter was installed in January, and we haven't seen a change at all. Last summer (before the meter was installed) my bills were a little higher, but that was due to a rate increase.

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Posted by Dave
a resident of San Ramon
on Apr 2, 2010 at 11:18 am

If you want to do a personal monthly audit of PG&E, you need only take your PG&E bill out to the gas and electric meters and confirm that the 'ending' amount is a slightly lower amount than the use at the time of checking your meter, make a not of this number and repeat the process when you get your next bill, the smart meters do not affect the way the meters operate, they only affect the way PG&E gets their numbers. If you need help with this and you live in the Tri-Valley, call Mr. Rooter Plumbing of the Tri-Valley at (925) 416-0966 and ask for Dave, I can help you over the phone (if I'm not in, please be patient, after all this is a free service that we do with any of our customers)

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Posted by Brian
a resident of Gatewood
on Apr 2, 2010 at 1:31 pm

Problems with the installation of my smart meter started after about 1 week. The lights flickered and I lost electricity to 1/2 my house (Techincally speaking, I lost connection to 1 of the 2 phases). PG&E said the problem was with the box that the meter plugs into, not the meter. I'm guessing they forced the new meter into the socket and broke something in the process. Fortunately, they paid to have an electrician come and fix it.

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Posted by mooseturd
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 2, 2010 at 1:41 pm

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I love my smart meter. My consumption is 15% less than previous 5 yr average. I was probably paying for all you deadbeats with the old fashioned meters that recorded too low. Now if they will just put a remote display in my kitchen.

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Posted by mooseturd
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 2, 2010 at 1:43 pm

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PS. You should not be comparing your $ to previous years. Prices have gone up. Compare consumption per day.

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Posted by Michael
a resident of Foothill High School
on Apr 2, 2010 at 4:51 pm

My new smart meter put up kwh at double the rate of the previous meter. I called them, they came out changed it, it is now registering kwh at near the rate of the previous, previous meter. However I have record of previous ten years here and will put them on the carpet if it is not what it should be.
This is the fourth meter insatll on my home in less than two years.

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Posted by B. O. Nuts
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 2, 2010 at 5:31 pm

This is just the beginning. It won't be long until the enviro-Nazis will be telling you what appliances you can use, how warm or cool you can keep your house, and when you can run appliances. They may even come in and confiscate things like your plasma TV, your clothes dryer, that extra fridge in the garage. Oh, and your air conditioner, for sure you will be told when and IF you can use that. Want to come home and use your computer after work. Sorry, the smart meter says thats a no-no. You will have to read a book by the kerosene lamp. And, to top it off, when people start plugging those electric cars into the grid, with no new power plants or distribution lines, its going to be black-out city. The best part is that Moonbeam will probably be elected Governor and then we will get familiar with "You ain't seen nuttin' yet". He was an enviro-loon way back in the 1970s. Who knows, we may even get ObamaWatt foisted upon us where the Feds will dictate your energy usage - now that is Change You Can Believe In.

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Posted by a
a resident of Amador Estates
on Apr 2, 2010 at 7:01 pm

well brian from gatewood, most homes are 1 phase 220 volt ?

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Posted by M
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 3, 2010 at 10:52 am

It's good to hear that the smart meters are NOT the boogie-man everyone says they are ... It's very difficult to know when I being bombarded by propaganda (okay sometimes outright lies) and true reality. Discussions like this help me gauge what is REAL OR NOT!!!

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Posted by MainStreetDiva
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Apr 3, 2010 at 5:04 pm

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Our Smart meter was installed on Tuesday. Friday morning, 2 breakers blew out. The electrician commented that he'd seen this before, on other houses right after Smartmeters were installed. Coincidence?

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Posted by REMOTE control
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 3, 2010 at 7:23 pm

B O Nuts, you are so right. It's all about PG&E eventually turing off our AC by REMOTE control. We vil do without ! Scary. PG&E Pres told Detroit automakers, 3-4 ELEC cares plugged in a neighborhood will cause a blackOUT !! SO, when you get home exhausted and hot on an August day, and just get settled...then your neighbor plugs in his car YOU do WITHOUT AC ! They do not want you to know that until it's too late. Then we're VICTIMS. BUt we're BAD and their holier than thou !! THen the real wars begin...;cuz PG&E hasn't provided POWER before meters. How stupid can they be. We're just being steam rolled and 'workers' aren't allowed to be truthful. Of course some don't even know anyway. Life as we knew it is over...everywhere we turn.

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Posted by mooseturd
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 5, 2010 at 1:12 pm

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Three neighbors coming home and charging their electric cars will draw as much power as one household running their oven on clean cycle. You folks are off the deep end.

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Posted by Chuck
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 6, 2010 at 8:38 pm

For those of you who have NOT YET seen a problem with the new meters, your turn will come, and probably sooner, rather than later. PLEASE watch your bills, and I hope you have last year's bills to compare to. This is absolutely NOT in your best interest -- it is right out of the Obama handbook on how to control a population -- Take control of their healthcare, and their means of staying warm or cool, depending upon the season. Totalitarianism, at its worst!!!
Still think I am looney ? Stay tuned, folks; your turn is coming!!!

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Posted by Not a good thing
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 7, 2010 at 2:18 pm

PG&E is so eager to get the switch done, before the regulators can do anything about it, that they have an outside co doing fast what the regular employees could do over time. They need to have people to respond to emergencies, who can do other things when there's no emergency.

Last summer they offered to change our meter, give us a measly $25 credit, and install a gismo to strangle our AC- probably just when we'd need it most- and this can be a health issue for us.
Didn't want such a thing- but last month we got a pair of smart meters anyway-gas and electric- no notice, no permission. Didn't even ring the bell. The outside firm just came and turned off our power, stopped our clocks, etc. and left a note on the knob. At least our AC doesn't have a gismo.
Now I see where PG&E can turn off your power remotely, on purpose or by mistake, and probably so can hackers.

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Posted by REMOTE control
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 12, 2010 at 10:13 pm

Hey turd, do a tiny bit of research. PG&E PRES, speaking to automakers in Detroit,last Oct, said 3 plug-ins in a neighborhood and cause a sub-station blackout !! Fact. Others in the systems try to deny, lie, hide, fooling only themselves with their heads in the clouds. Zealots think we'll limp along with windmills & panels and get by....we won't !! If you think the last 12 were lean, wait until further collapse as the US economy cannot supply itself with ADEQUATE power. Since we aren't allowed adequate power supplies, there should be a law that elec cars are not allowed unless owner generates his own ADEQUATE supply, i.e. own solar....not sucking off his neighbor's supply. Naturally, the ignorant, zealot, dreamers try to squelch the truth. Power suplies should have come BEFORE plug-ins...fools will destroy us. Liver Lab, Sat, on channel 30, said for the country to sustain itself to 2050, we need TWO (2) NEW plants per week !! The ONLY way to save the US is many new nuclear plants NOW ! We're allowing the ignorant to destroy us daily, for ignoring reality. Panels won't save us. We need ! Planting a field of panels in SoCal won't do @*% anything for us...THAT's WHY they have to get smart meters in, for them to shut off as needed for 'the good of all'. Don't buy in to the con...demand truth..sheep, speak truth to power. (pun !)

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Posted by REMOTE control
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 12, 2010 at 11:21 pm

Make PG&E do their job and PROVIDE power !...don't help them,their 'smartie', and Green Gestapo 'police' us back to washing dishes in the creek!

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Posted by REMOTE control
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 13, 2010 at 3:29 pm

Since they did NOT bother with the little detail of "TESTING" before rolling out this massive program, remember the PUC (all in colusion together) was suppose to run tests. Do we know how long or when we'll be told anything. Don't you sort of suppose they'll cover their collective tails, and say all's good !?!?
I'm SO glad I didn't allow them to install.,,, I don't see how they can continue installing, until there is a favorable report to the public.

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