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After Friday, it may be too late. This is it! Please view this from Michele Bachmann (R-MN) on Healthcare Vote

Original post made by Bob, Amberwood/Wood Meadows, on Nov 3, 2009

If you don't want to give up your liberty, come to DC to meet on the steps of the Capitol Building by Thurs. noon! Or bombard your representative's local office!

Please view this short 7 min. videoclip to understand what the Democrats are doing to you, your family and your freedom.

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Posted by My 2/100
a resident of Mohr Elementary School
on Nov 3, 2009 at 7:24 am

Liberty's a great thing, but so is staying out of the slammer. I'm not going to bombard my representative's office no matter what he does.

I'll pass on the propaganda too, thank you very much.

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Posted by Bob
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Nov 3, 2009 at 7:29 am

I meant call your representative's office with you concerns.

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Posted by dublinmike
a resident of Dublin
on Nov 3, 2009 at 9:35 am

bob, where were you when Bush was President. His people did more harm to our liberties than you must be aware of.

People like Michele Bachmann, Limbaugh, et al, along with extreme liberals on the other end do harm. These guys are out for publicity at the expense of this country.

They divert our attention from the real enemies, such as China, Russia, Islamic terrorists and internal terrorists.

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Posted by Curious
a resident of Del Prado
on Nov 3, 2009 at 1:58 pm

Are China and Russia our enemies now? I'm so confused. For the past 8 years I was told our enemies were the "Axis of Evil" - Iran, N. Korea, and Syria. Or was that Iraq, Afganistan, and Pakistan? Or was that Venezuela, Cuba, and Haiti. Is there a scorecard somewhere I can reference so that I know who to hate on a daily basis? I only have so many rants in me, so I need to ration accordingly. Thank you for your help.

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Posted by Jerry
a resident of Oak Hill
on Nov 4, 2009 at 12:56 am

Without politically bashing the left, right, liberal, conservative, independent, or whatever, - could someone please explain all the "liberties" that were taken away from me, or harmed, by the Bush administration. I continually hear/read some say this has happened...

Now I may be dense, but I'm not aware of anything that has changed involving my "liberties". I still go about daily life as I always have, with no interference. At least to my knowledge...

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Posted by jimf01
a resident of another community
on Nov 4, 2009 at 8:01 am

Jerry - doncha know if you want to call a terrorist, there is someone in an NSA building in Virginia listening to every word

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Posted by Curious
a resident of Del Prado
on Nov 4, 2009 at 9:48 am

Bush's America was a much less free place than the America of 2000. Following the attacks of September 11, 2001, the Bush administration had, by word and by deed, erected an edifice of repression here in the United States.

We've been living in it ever since. And it's not a comfortable place. The government is monitoring your phone calls and can read your e-mails and open your snail mail.

The government could access records of your large financial transactions, such as buying a house.

Law enforcement officers could bust into your home when you're not there, riffle through your belongings, plant a recording device on your computer, and leave without notifying you for at least thirty days.

You did not have the right to protest where the president or vice president can see you, or at major public events when they weren't even present.

Law enforcement officers could monitor you in public if you were merely exercising your political rights.

They could infiltrate your political organizations.

And they could keep track of you at your place of worship. The government could find out from bookstores and libraries the material you've been reading, and the bookstore owner and the librarian could not talk about it, except to their lawyers, for a whole year -- or more.

The government could hold you in preventive detention for months on end as a "material witness."

If you're not a citizen the government could deport you on a technicality or for mere political association.

If you're not a citizen the government could label you an "enemy combatant" and send you to secret prisons around the world, where you may never see the light of day again -- much less a lawyer or a judge. And even if you are a citizen, the government could label you an enemy combatant and hold you in solitary confinement here in the United States.

Under George W. Bush's interpretation of the president's powers during the so-called war on terror he could do just about whatever he wants. He cites the Authorization for Use of Military Force bill, which Congress passed on September 18, 2001, as the justification for this enormous leeway.
"Congress gave me the authority to use necessary force to protect the American people, but it didn't prescribe the tactics,"Bush said in a speech at Kansas State University on January 23, 2006. Those tactics, he presumed, are totally up to him. Under this rationale Bush could send F-16s to attack a residential area in, say, Indianapolis if he thought Al Qaeda suspects were there.

You're welcome.

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Posted by Jerry
a resident of Oak Hill
on Nov 5, 2009 at 1:18 am

Thanks, curious...

If your response is correct, I can now see where I should be worried about losing liberties if I were someone interested in harming Americian citizens. Since I'm not, I fail to see where "my liberties" are in jeopardy, or have been repressed.

If the truth were known, I'd bet some of the things you listed have been used, without our knowledge, by administrations for many, many years, for one reason or the other. If I remember correctly, FDR did some rather shady things during "The Big One" and it has been reported(years ago and I don't recall where)the Kennedy Brothers weren't saints when going after Jimmy Hoffa...

jimf01, My fishing buddy and I were on the phone the other day discussing the merits of a lure he had made, and named "red & yellow missile", when I heard strange "clickings" on the phone and someone say, "NSA, did you get that on tape". Do you suppose I'm in big trouble...:)

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Posted by Dave
a resident of Amador Estates
on Nov 5, 2009 at 7:04 am

Jerry...wake up...regarding all the liberties lost or threatened under Obama. I don't have much time now...but off the are just a few. I am sure there are many more...

How about the freedom to spend our money as we see fit? The freedom to select our own doctor, to select our own insurance coverage (or none at all, if we so choose) -- the freedom to enter into business contracts with those we choose to do so (ask a banker about this - why should he be forced to lend to someone not qualified to borrow) -- and our relationships with our credit card companies (the terms of which are now fixed by Obama & Co.) -- the freedom of a secret, private ballot when it comes to workplace unionizing, the freedom cast our ballot without fear of intimidation or imminent bodily harm (witness the Black Panthers intimidating voters at the ballot box), the freedom to support the candidate or proposition of our choice with our money or our time without being in fear of retaliation from ACORN-types who harass people who support causes they do not support (ask the poor folks in CA who supported Prop ?? - the gay measure last election) -- how about the freedom to own and bear arms (Obama democrats introducing bills to restrict that), freedom to keep the money we earn through our own sweat and effort (as opposed to being forced to give it to Obama in higher taxes for his freakin' cap'n trade BS or whatever his cause dejour is), the separation of church and state that is being eroded through constant accommodation of muslims in terms of prayer rooms at colleges, airports, etc. - how about the security of our country that is being eroded through lax immigration law enforcement - the principle of one man-one vote that is being made a joke thru ACORN and illegal alien voter fraud, higher car insurance by virtue of so many hundreds of thousands of illegals driving the roads without proper insurance, higher health care costs for the same reason, the theft of American prosperity by the blood-sucking lawyers suing frivolous claims against virtually every single segment of American business and enterprise. The first amendment is under attack where Obama wants to silence talk radio and FoxNews. How about our freedom of expression...where the WhiteHouse established a program for citizens to report fellow citizens who are against Obama and the Nationalized Healthcare. Those are right out of Germany's playbook before and during WWII. How about our freedom of information to learn the background of our President? What is he hiding from us?

the list can go on and on. And he's only been in office for 10 months or so.

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Posted by Jerry
a resident of Oak Hill
on Nov 5, 2009 at 7:10 pm


You make some interesting observations but my prior post was in response to the list of "liberties" supposedly lost to the Bush administration(per Curious, Del Pardo neighborhood), not what is happening with the present administration or congress...

When politicians are on the prowl, I try stay awake...

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Posted by Dave
a resident of Amador Estates
on Nov 5, 2009 at 8:34 pm

Sorry Jerry. I now see that you were referencing Bush and not Obama. My mistake. It was a productive exercise on my part to list the liberties lost or threatened my Obama anyway. And I've thought of several more since my last post too!


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