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A thought experiment, and challenge for the political posters on our forums.

Original post made by M, Downtown, on Aug 6, 2009

I find it quite funny that a lot of the conservative folks on these boards are now up in arms over things like "3am bills" etc... While this is nothing new in Washington, the previous administration did the same thing, just as the administration before that and the one before that.

Yet, I wonder if my point is even visible to the majority of those who are up in arms over whatever the Obama administration is doing. I will be blunt, the point is that it is ok when your team does something but if the other team does the same thing it is not acceptable.

With that said, and after reading countless posts and opinions from the conservative side I is perfectly clear that “the right” does not have any real problem with the Obama administration, their tactics, or even the majority of what they wish to do. It is simply that “the right” (or at least most of the right wing pesters on this forum and many other forums) do not like President Obama, and refuse to accept that he is the president of our nation. Is it because he is half black? Is it simply because he is not from your political party? Is it because he doesn't wear an orange tie? Whatever it is tell us.

I would like to know the real honest truth. Be anonymous, use a fake name. Tell the truth, the real raw truth that you may not even acknowledge to yourself. I will say that I doubt I will see any responses, as usual. Surprise me, but if you are feeling the need to either post slanderous contemptuous, or hostile posts don’t bother, that is not what this is about. If your intent is to produce more party line vomitous and detritus again, this is not the point so please don’t bother. Nor do I want to see “The Left” produce party line detritus or go on long diatribes about how awful the opposition is as that is also not the point.

I would like to see some honest answers, they don’t have to be popular, they don’t have to even be socially acceptable, they only have to be honest. Recycled cable news sound bites are not needed we can watch look at he news for that.

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Posted by Drexl
a resident of Ironwood
on Aug 6, 2009 at 8:54 pm

Are you for real? Honest answer is it is not about white or black, personally, I like the guy, as a leader of my country, would be ok if there was a check to policy. Obama got everyone on board, so very liked, that people decided to let him run a country with congress fully supportive (democrats) of him; he will probably never have to veto a bill. Does this not concern you? You ask a question and then do not want an answer on "politics" and you seriously think people are racist and that is why people do not like him? Get real. People do not like him because he wants to change what is American. Look, he got to spend over a trillion on financial recovery; even though it did not work for great depression, he is trying again to spend out of a depression; I am OK with it, I do not like it, but that is a "different" approach and belief of the democrats, go right ahead, try, and lets see if it works. But, when you start going after healthcare, you are now interferring with my choice; and as americans, we enjoy our freedom of choice. Obama, is pushing down on us what he thinks should be American, and that is where he is crossing the line, and in my mind, lose his popularity and not get reelected. I do not care if I pay 10% more in taxes; fine, that is life I can live with less, but, do not change what I love about this country, help the people have what I have, dont give to them by taking from me; if you do not understand this, then forever you will think this country is racist and republicans are behind it...if you really look at every issue at hand, you will realize, republicans value individuals more than democrats. Democrats are enablers.

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Posted by M
a resident of Downtown
on Aug 7, 2009 at 3:46 am

First of all thank you for putting your thoughts out there for people to read. Secondly I want to point out that I never stated my stance on anything, so there is no need to assign a stance for me or tell me what I do or do not understand.

I never stated that anyone was a racist, or simply did not like him because of his race, these were simply examples designed to make people think, and or cause enough of a reaction to get people typing away. This was and is not an attack on anyone or anyone's position. As for no politics, all I was asking for was that people do not give "canned" answers.

Your answer was not a canned answer and I am happy to see that you put your opinion out there, and gave some great examples. Thank you Drexl.

Perhaps next time I will follow up with a what you didn't or don't like about McCain to be fair, but in all reality I will move on to something else.

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Posted by J
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 7, 2009 at 11:37 am

I don't care if the bills get passed at 3am or 2pm, as long as those elected to represent us are accomplishing something.

They seem to spend an inordinate amount of time discussing doing things, but very little actually DOING anything...Then they go on recess, vacation, off to complete "district" work, or to conferences or compaigning for other politicians. I'm pretty sure if I spent that little time in my office, when I returned there would be a different name on the door

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Posted by J
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 7, 2009 at 11:55 am

I guess I should add that I don't vote by party lines. I look up the person's voting record on the measures/bills I have an opinion on and that is how I determine who will be getting my vote. Talk is cheap, and actions speak much more loudly then the speech prepared for public consumption by a team of people behind the scenes...

As to what the current administration has been doing, I don't know why it comes as a great suprise. Obama was very actively involved in social programs in his home state too. As to questions about whether what he is doing is "Constitutional", he taught Constitutional Law for 12 years, so he must be familiar with the material...LOL

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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Aug 8, 2009 at 8:35 am

Stacey is a registered user.

"it is ok when your team does something but if the other team does the same thing it is not acceptable."

To me, that is just the political game. If your team doesn't learn how to use the same tactics as the other team, you might end up with a mine shaft gap and your side will lose. Sad, but that seems to be how it works.

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