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After Roe: What happens to abortion in California?

Original post made on Jun 26, 2022

Now that the Supreme Court has overturned the Roe decision, here are key takeaways of what to expect for abortion in the state. They include politics, more legislation and changes for health care providers.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, June 24, 2022, 3:42 PM

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Posted by Jake Waters
a resident of Birdland
on Jun 26, 2022 at 8:09 am

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First, everyone hold onto their shorts, California will still be a sanctuary to take the life of a child. After all, California is a sanctuary for every destructive measure in the country. Democrats know that they control our state through ballot harvesting, illegals given voting avenues, and suspected voting machines. You people have a lock, so relax.

“California is moving in the opposite direction, ramping up legal protections for abortion providers and pouring resources into expanding access as clinics prepare for a possible surge of patients traveling from other states to terminate their pregnancies.”- This would have been appreciated during the Wuhan Virus to allow us to take certain drugs to save lives. Not to mention to allow and protect our health providers to provide us honest feedback regarding the experimental therapies.

“Since the draft ruling leaked last month, Democrats in California and across the country have latched onto protecting abortion rights as a key issue for the 2022 midterm elections.”- Actually it rates down below Climate Change. People have a whole lot more to be worried about.

“With decades of public polling showing that a majority of Americans believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases,…”- that is misinformation and you know it.

“Attorney General Rob Bonta quickly vowed Friday to "use the full force of the law to protect reproductive healthcare for everyone who seeks it in our state."- this would have been a welcomed initiative if they had protected many of our citizens against the mandate.

Quite honestly, I won’t vote for it out of good conscience, but here is an easy fix: stop teaching in our schools the sexual proclivities of the teachers, CRT, the 1619 project, the exhibition of Drag Queens, and more, but provide education on ‘birth control.’ Do we have such an out of control desire that it has to be addressed through extermination? If so, what a sad ending to our civilization.









Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jun 26, 2022 at 4:02 pm

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This decision, made largely by men about women, leaves a few unanswered questions. Sex, under any circumstance, does not automatically come with the funds for preventive medicines regarding babies. Most are expensive; and do not work for all women.

For all the women who have unwanted pregnancies (including from rape and incest and the health of the mother), what happens to those babies once they come to term? Do we open orphanages again or believe someone will adopt them? If they go into foster homes, what happens to those young adults when they turn 18? What if the child has disabilities? If the mother tries to keep the child, what will be the cost should she fall on hard times or cannot support herself? It’s not as if abortion was banned and replaced with a mandate for fathers to pay support. If anyone thinks abortion is expensive, imagine the cost of the programs that will be instituted for the unwanted child. Do we then ban sex until after marriage? And what about men—can we make men responsible if a woman gets pregnant? Will there ever be a reliable pill for men, or just the use of less effective condoms?

I can agree that abortion is not a birth control method, but dumping Roe and expecting the states to make rational decisions affecting women is a serious mistake. We are already seeing the results in states choosing to eliminate abortion. What is happening to our nation?


Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 26, 2022 at 8:54 pm

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Kathleen, I’m lost in your comments as men are held financially accountable and have zero say in what a woman does with a planned or unplanned pregnancy.

My biggest question in this is why this why now? While I understand the legal concern regarding the Supreme Court and ruling on constitutionality and not making law, I don’t understand why this is the “problem” they chose to spend their time addressing now.


Posted by Bill Brasky
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jun 26, 2022 at 10:03 pm

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The question “when does life begin” will be debated feverishly over the next 2 years leading up to the election.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jun 27, 2022 at 6:29 am

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PP, some men are held responsible financially (and not nearly enough to raise a child), but not all men. And many men insist on abortions or they won’t stay around to pay. With all the casual sex and one night stands, some men aren’t around for the after effects, let alone to help pay to end the unintended pregnancy. This is an interesting article from Fatherly, a site for fathers (2019) Web Link Men should pay half the cost of raising a child through college or the child’s marriage (if before college is completed).


Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 27, 2022 at 9:42 am

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Kathleen,
I agree with what you're saying from a practical standpoint, I'm not trying to dismiss that reality, but the issue at hand is a legal one. And in the eyes of the law, men are able/capable of being held accountable for the costs of raising a child.

Morally, I completely agree with you, but legally why is it ok for a woman to have 100% decision over the outcome if a man has a different opinion. Said differently, if a woman finds out a man isn't willing to pay for the upbringing of a child, and she isn't willing/wanting to go it alone (or have to fight through courts) terminating the pregnancy may be the responsible decision.

If this issue is one of moral guidance dictating legal behavior (i.e. certain states deciding on behalf of a woman what she can/can't do, why is that same logic all of a sudden not applicable between the woman and the man?)


Posted by SHale99
a resident of Village High School
on Jun 27, 2022 at 10:43 am

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"Men should pay half the cost of raising a child through college or the child’s marriage (if before college is completed)."

that's kinda a big paint brush. How about until 18? Legally an adult and responsible for themselves.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jun 27, 2022 at 1:03 pm

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SHale99, How many 18 year olds can pay for their own college education, and preferably without the crippling loans? We could also discuss all the things 18 year olds are legally allowed to do or not do (military, drinking, etc.). Our kids went through college without loans, and we were grateful we could do that for them.

PP, if a man and a woman can decide together the best path, that is admirable. If the father wants the child and the woman does not, will the father take and raise the child on his own? If the woman wants the child and the man does not, is he obligated to pay? As for legal considerations, it takes a lot to get a man to pay; it’s not automatic.


Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 27, 2022 at 5:42 pm

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I don’t believe a man or woman should be able to force another woman to have a child even if s/he would take 100% responsibility for it.

Nor do I believe a woman should be able to hold a man responsible if he doesn’t want a child (but that’s a limited “opt out” window imo- ie the same amount of time a woman can have an abortion)


Posted by SHale99
a resident of Village High School
on Jun 28, 2022 at 12:18 pm

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" How many 18 year olds can pay for their own college education"

You missed my point. When a 'child' turns 18 they are an adult. Parents can open the door and say 'goodbye' if they so choose to. That is the law.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jun 29, 2022 at 11:01 am

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I don’t know any parents that would do that, law or no law.


Posted by SHale99
a resident of Village High School
on Jun 29, 2022 at 12:34 pm

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>I don’t know any parents that would do that, law or no law.

You might be in a bubble then if you can't think of it ever happens. It does.

Good Day.


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