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RE: Derek Chauvin verdict

Original post made by Isaiah Campbell, Tri-Valley for Black Lives , Livermore, on Apr 20, 2021

Accountability. We can't bring back George Floyd, but today we got accountability for his murder and accountability is the first step toward justice. Today's verdict shows the power of bystander intervention and worldwide protest, but it shouldn't have taken all that to finally bring about accountability.

We have a lot of work to do to bring justice to America. This is but one small step. Black lives should not be endangered by the very people whose duty is to protect and serve. We embrace this moment today, but the work continues tomorrow to make police accountability the norm, not the exception.

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Posted by Michael Austin
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Apr 20, 2021 at 5:25 pm

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What resonates is the lingering Pall of Maxine Waters rhetoric!


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Apr 20, 2021 at 6:54 pm

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There is so much to be done yet, but these verdicts were the start, hopefully, of real change.


Posted by Kevin
a resident of Castlewood
on Apr 20, 2021 at 8:15 pm

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Michael Austin, your statement demonstrates how fake you and Trumpster Republicans are. All of a sudden, you all are condemning incendiary rhetoric by a politician. Your problem is that the politician is a Democrat and you were at best quiet and in most cases, you encouraged worse statements and actions by Trump and his gang.

This is why Republicans lost the House, Presidency and the Senate in 4 short years. Good decent Americans see right through hypocrites and lying politicians.

Maxine was wrong but Republicans are hypocrites for calling her.


Posted by Michael Austin
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Apr 20, 2021 at 8:31 pm

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Fortunately, "good decent Americans" did "see right through" Maxine Waters.
I am not fake, I am who I am. I am not a "Trumpster Republican".

You Kevin, post anonymously demonstrating you have no credibility.


Posted by Jennifer
a resident of another community
on Apr 20, 2021 at 10:01 pm

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Had he gotten in the police car and cooperated with the police, he'd be alive today. I have no empathy for any man who holds a gun to a pregnant woman's stomach during a home invasion. A real "gentle giant."


And I'm not a Trump Republican. Nor am I an enabler who will make excuses for career criminals who are a threat to society.

I do believe he was guilty of manslaughter. Second degree murder is a stretch. At least the country won't be on fire, to the tune of billions of dollars to the taxpayers.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Apr 21, 2021 at 7:33 am

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I won’t say Floyd was a gentle giant. But his past had nothing to do with someone holding a knee on his neck for 9 minutes and 29 seconds.


Posted by Matt Sullivan
a resident of Stoneridge
on Apr 21, 2021 at 9:59 am

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According to the LA Times “Maxine Waters had said at a demonstration in Brooklyn Center, Minn., last weekend that if Chauvin were not convicted, “then we know that we’ve got to not only stay in the street, but we’ve got to fight for justice,” according to video of the event. “We’ve got to get more active. We’ve got to get more confrontational. You’ve got to make sure that they know that we mean business.”

I couldn’t agree more. This isn’t inciting violence, this is encouragement for people opposed to a police state that is institutionally racist and routinely commits violence, including death to unarmed people, as a standard procedure that is essentially endorsed by the law enforcement establishment without any accountability or interest in reforming these practices – until now.

The hypocrisy of the Republicans in the House that tried to censor Waters for these statements while most of them endorsed Donald Trump’s comments to a gathered crowd on January 6th about the “stolen election” and that “If you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore” and “we are going to the Capitol” (of course, he didn’t go with them) to protest – and try to stop? – the certification vote of the Electoral College is stunning. This did result in violence by the storming of the Capitol by the crowd addressed by Trump resulting in injuries, damage, and death.

(continued in the next post)


Posted by Matt Sullivan
a resident of Stoneridge
on Apr 21, 2021 at 10:00 am

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(continued)

The jury in Minneapolis came to a courageous and just verdict. The prosecutors in Minneapolis also made a courageous and just decision to prosecute Derek Chauvin. Perhaps this a turning point in the struggle against police violence of all kinds. Just this week, Contra Costa County District Attorney Diana Becton is reported to charge Danville Police Officer Andrew Hall with two felonies for the 2018 shooting of the unarmed Laudemer Arboleda. Hall also shot and killed Tyrell Wilson on March 11, who according to police had a knife and threatened Hall, but this was disputed by witnesses and a video made of the encounter. Hopefully, this will also be taken seriously by the Contra Costa DA.

As Martin Luther King, jr. said “the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.”



Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Apr 21, 2021 at 12:12 pm

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Derek Chauvin was wrong

George Floyd was wrong - but didn't deserve to die the way he did.

Maxine Waters was wrong - not to the same degree as Donald Trump given positional seat / influence.

Donald Trump was wrong - but Kevin, he lost to himself, not because of anything Democrats did. Lets be honest, Democrats fought for four years to remove him from office and failed. Ultimately Donald Trump sealed his fate with his response to Covid. The aftermath of the election obviously solidified it, but the actions post election were not factored into why he was voted out of office.

I don't understand why we can't align on all these things holding true independent of one another - Dem/Rep in my opinion has nothing to do with being able to look at these things and agree. Punishment/accountability/consequences are obviously different for ea; but one or more being true doesn't negate the others still holding true.


And Matt S - you kill me; clearly you have a personal opinion and conscience until it comes to protecting the price gouging private interests of local gasoline chains in their environmental impact fight (what a joke) against Costco.



Posted by Michael Austin
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Apr 21, 2021 at 12:51 pm

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Jennifer and Pleasanton parent are correct.

If the man had complied with the officers first command, he would be alive today.
When he did not comply with the officers first command, is the point where escalation started, as the officer issues a second command.

I agree Nine plus minutes with knee on the neck was wrong.

Compliance is so easy, so life preserving.

A three year old understands raise your hands, put your hands behind your back, get on the ground, all commands that prolong life.


Posted by Matt Sullivan
a resident of Stoneridge
on Apr 21, 2021 at 1:17 pm

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Parent - I have expressed my motivation and arguments opposing Costco numerous times on this blog, in the print newspapers, to the City Council directly, and even on TV. If you cared to try and understand you would see it has nothing to do with protecting the private interests of local gasoline chains. But since it doesn't fit the narrative you have created about this you won't bother. And I won't bother to reiterate it yet again.


Posted by buklau
a resident of Avila
on Apr 21, 2021 at 2:54 pm

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OJ Simpson playing golf the day after his trial while Chauvin convicted of multiple murder charges.
Now people are crying over the Ohio chick about to stab a girl.

Yes Chauvin was wrong, No Floyd wasn't a saint...but justice/democracy are succumbing to identity politics rather than objective law/reality.


Posted by John
a resident of Birdland
on Apr 21, 2021 at 6:36 pm

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Matt S and Kevin, you need to move to Maxine Waters district. She would be happy to have you. I don't think you would need to worry about a Costco moving in and ruining the bucolic area well maintained and economically viable. Hope it works out will for you.


Posted by Kevin
a resident of Castlewood
on Apr 21, 2021 at 6:47 pm

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Pleasanton Parent, President Biden beat Trump.

Trump did not lose to himself.

Democrats beat Republicans in the house.

A Jewish documentary maker and a black pastor beat two Trumpsters in Georgia to win the senate.

Joe won Georgia and Arizona, two red states.

America is changing and white Republicans don’t like it. You can tell who a white old Republican is by reading your posts. They are digging a grave for the Republican Party.

Democrats and our young, our future, are embracing the inevitable change. That is how you will keep America the greatest country in the world - not by being a hypocrite who makes laws to keep brown and black people from voting.


Posted by Kevin
a resident of Castlewood
on Apr 21, 2021 at 6:55 pm

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Sorry for posting twice in a row. I hope PW does not delete this post.

John,

I feel very comfortable in this district and this state as far as political alignment is concerned. Over 70% of us in this very district voted for politicians in the same party as Maxine, Democratic Party, in the Nov. 2020 election.


Posted by Michael Austin
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Apr 21, 2021 at 7:00 pm

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"I love to engage in repartee with people who are stupider than I am"....Ann Coulter


Posted by John
a resident of Birdland
on Apr 21, 2021 at 7:22 pm

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I don't think Maxine Waters would be elected in this district. If so god help us all.


Posted by John
a resident of Birdland
on Apr 21, 2021 at 9:12 pm

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Your points are not to much to counter. It is your anti Trump delirium that is to much to counter. You need help. Just because someone criticizes a democrat does not make them a Trumpist as you call them. I am not a Trump fan but I do not see how anyone can support Maxine Waters. She is just evil in my opinion.


Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Apr 21, 2021 at 10:10 pm

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Oh Kevin. No one here is denying the outcome, no one here is saying “Biden’s not my president”. Keep playing out whatever fantasy you want, Trump defeated himself. Biden did beat him in the voting, Biden won. Biden is my president as Trump was before.

I respect the office regardless of who sits in it, and I agree and disagree with certain actions regardless of who sits in it. I haven’t lost my right to individual assessment and thought. Try it sometime. Get out of the Bay Area and talk to the people in other parts of the country that hold a different opinion.....go watch Dogma have an idea not a belief.

You’re projecting of me is wrong so again, who’s the prejudice one here?




Posted by MichaelB
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Apr 22, 2021 at 5:02 am

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"Democrats and our young, our future, are embracing the inevitable change. That is how you will keep America the greatest country in the world - not by being a hypocrite who makes laws to keep brown and black people from voting."


More like inevitable disaster - but not surprising coming from someone who is "comfortable" with one party rule.

America will not be kept as the "greatest country" by those calling everyone/everything "systemically racist" and surrendering our economy and freedoms for "climate change". Just the opposite - a government controlled utopian welfare state that silences any form of opposition to the left wing status quo.


Posted by Gina Channell, Pleasanton Weekly Publisher
a resident of Downtown
on Apr 22, 2021 at 9:39 am

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I’m closing this thread.... If two or three of you want to spar, perhaps trade emails.


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