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Pleasanton council to debate face mask enforcement

Original post made on Feb 15, 2021

After several prior attempts to agendize the matter earlier in the pandemic, the Pleasanton City Council is set Tuesday to consider ways to encourage and enforce the wearing of face masks in public amid the coronavirus.

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Posted by [email protected]
a resident of Birdland
on Feb 15, 2021 at 4:41 pm

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Mask Fatigue? What a bunch of over-privileged ignorant suburbanite Trump supporting fools. Wear your mask inside enclosed buildings where other members of the public are present and within 6 feet of others. Such nonsense that lying. twice-impeached buffoon spread just to give his cult something else to complain about while using racist rhetoric to support it. Be patriotic, not selfish, wear a mask!


Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Feb 15, 2021 at 8:49 pm

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Until our kids are in school the city council shouldn’t do a single thing but up the pressure on getting schools open.

Bring on the mask police. Indoors I’ll comply, outside I’ll laugh and gladly wipe my a$$ with the ticket you think you’re going to give me.


Posted by James Michael
a resident of Val Vista
on Feb 15, 2021 at 11:44 pm

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I wear a mask in stores, mainly because I don't want to cause the employees any problems, but outside in the parks and trails NO. Do the masks do any good, I don't know. First it was no mask, then it was mask, and now it's supposed to be two masks. I don't think anybody knows what the hell they are doing, especially Jobama.


Posted by Jake Waters
a resident of Birdland
on Feb 16, 2021 at 8:05 am

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First, what statue, law, or violation will be on the citation or arrest report? Secondly, how many masks will we be required- two, three? What science or doctor are they pointing to for their science?

@rett- are you stuck in perpetual high school? Does it get tiring to play the victim all the time? Trump, unfortunately is no longer President, but you do have your Alzheimer’s curmudgeon wondering the White House. Please, stay in your circle.


Posted by Jill Miller
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Feb 16, 2021 at 9:49 am

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Masks shouldn't be a political issue. If wearing a mask helps keep our community safe, whether indoors or out, I'll do it. I keep my mask handy when walking on trails and/or sidewalks so that if I come close to another person, I can put it on and protect both my fellow traveler and myself. It's really not that hard.


Posted by Guillermo M.
a resident of Downtown
on Feb 16, 2021 at 10:50 am

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Just go to the Dairy, buy a soft serve cone & walk anywhere downtown with no fear whatsoever. Everybody knows that you can’t catch or spread The Rona when your eating or drinking right?


Posted by LanceM
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 16, 2021 at 11:11 am

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Mask wearing has been shown to be effective in reducing virus spread in study after study, so there is not argument there. The question come down to where are mask appropriate. Indoors around other people is when masks are effective. Outdoors, unless you are in close proximity to other people for extended periods mask do little. So I'm not going to wear a mask when I go for a walk because it really doesn't do anything (unless I'm walking near people for a while which I don't). But I will wear a mask when I go into a store because it helps the people around me.

My biggest issue is with people who won't wear a mask at a facility that the state requires you too which is putting that business at risk of getting shut down. Businesses are adapting and trying to stay afloat. Why some people actively trying to get these businesses shut down? It is not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing with mask rules as that business doesn't make those rules. You need to take your anger to the people making the decisions (i.e. state and local government), not the people trying to make a living.


Posted by Ron S
a resident of Old Towne
on Feb 16, 2021 at 12:45 pm

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Sigh.... for what it's worth, I wear my mask TO PROTECT YOU!!!! No politics. No crabbiness. I want YOU to be healthy and so I take the action of mask wearing for YOU! I invite others to feel the same and that we have some semblance of "community" in these trying times. It'll be over someday.


Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 16, 2021 at 2:02 pm

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Jill Miller, LanceM,

Looking around Pleasanton, I see that most people agree with you and wear their masks. It is not a very big ask. It is not a political thing.


Posted by Claudette McDermott
a resident of Del Prado
on Feb 16, 2021 at 2:32 pm

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It's been said over and over again, by the professionals. It's been on the news, in social media and in every State and County. The time for pretending and throwing tantrums by Not Wearing or Not Wanting to wear a mask, is over. No tolerance should be offered. No more excuses.

People that are motivated to fight wearing of masks and don't comply, should be fined. Pure and Simple. And make sure they pay their fines or double them.


Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Feb 16, 2021 at 3:05 pm

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Good luck......you're going to need it.

If teachers can avoid the the science and guidance from the CDC on going back into the classroom I'm going to ignore it outside.


Posted by James Michael
a resident of Val Vista
on Feb 16, 2021 at 4:16 pm

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Does anyone see the irony here of discussing masks? Jobama just opened the southern border and is letting in thousands without tests AND WITHOUT MASKS into our communities. Don't worry about your neighbors but instead worry about the horde coming from the south! Canada is going to build a wall.


Posted by Ben J.
a resident of Birdland
on Feb 16, 2021 at 8:40 pm

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What study after study shows masks are effective? The ones where researchers tried to cherry-pick data from selected counties to show that cases dropped after the mask mandate, without any regard for the fact that each wave only lasts for about 6-8 weeks in a given area before dissipating – regardless of what actions are taken by the local population. Then it comes back a few times until everyone has been exposed to the virus. The ones where they always had to retract what they published, even John Hopkins?
Heck, in 1918, study after study said masks do nothing to stop the spread of flu virus.
We have lockdowns and masks, which are so effective … that they can't work and require a vaccine to do their jobs, but even with a vaccine and natural immunity, they still don't work, so this charade of mask-wearing must go on. Also, they are so effective that if you don't wear one, you are almost murdering someone. Never mind the fact that the curve rises and falls at the same time by region, regardless of non-pharmaceutical interventions.
The US government has warned for years that masks do not work against smoke particles. Most wood smoke particles are about 1,000 nanometers (1 micron), which is 10 times larger than SARS-CoV-2 virions. 10x larger!
In other words, because the virions of the coronavirus are roughly 100 nanometers, 1/10,000 the width of a hair and 1/30 the size of surgical mask filtrations (about 3.0 microns or 3,000 nanometers), surgical masks do not help. Cotton masks are really pathetic. The hydraulic diameter of cotton is roughly 200 microns, 1,429 times the size of the larger aerosol.
Basically, if you were driving down a tunnel in a truck, the aerosol being the pickup, the tunnel would be 1.83 MILES WIDE.
Those are facts. Fear mongering by the fanatical cultist mask crowd is not.


Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Feb 16, 2021 at 9:34 pm

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After enduring one year of the pandemic we now know a lot about how the COVID-19 virus infects people; the virus mainly spreads in indoor locations where people are closely together for extended periods of time such as family gatherings, parties, nursing homes, bars, nightclubs, prisons, and food processing plants. Most people actually get infected in their own homes from somebody in their own household.

There is no scientific support for the idea that the virus could spread between people briefly walking past each other outdoors. So, anyone suggesting we need to wear masks while we are outdoors and able to properly distance ourselves from others, would have to provide us with brand new, compelling scientific evidence for this.

We need to instead focus on limiting the virus spread where it does matter, and not create random requirements based on irrational fear that will have no effect on infection rates.


Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 17, 2021 at 8:29 am

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@ben j,

That business about the virus being too small for the masks is mistaken and wrong. Talk to anybody who's worked in a bio or virology lab. Viruses don't float freely in the air. They are suspended in droplets of water or vapor breathed out. The droplets are orders of magnitude bigger than the virus. Those droplets that contain the virus are what the masks are stopping.


Posted by John
a resident of Birdland
on Feb 17, 2021 at 9:19 am

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Wear a Mask, Wah your Hands, Socially Distance


Posted by Jake Waters
a resident of Birdland
on Feb 17, 2021 at 9:31 am

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The Federalist- “Observations during SARS suggested double-masking and other practices increased the risk of infection because of moisture, liquid diffusion and pathogen retention,” a group of scientists concluded after a randomized trial, publishing their findings in BMJ Open in March 2015, long before the our current politicized plight. “These effects may be associated with cloth masks” (the types of masks we’re all wearing now).

The entire article is here: Web Link

“ It's been said over and over again, by the professionals. It's been on the news, in social media and in every State and County. The time for pretending and throwing tantrums by Not Wearing or Not Wanting to wear a mask, is over. No tolerance should be offered. No more excuses.” — just isn’t true.


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