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Livermore: Resident groups, developer all appeal county's approval of 410-acre solar project

Original post made on Dec 10, 2020

Three advocacy groups consisting of mostly Livermore residents filed appeals last week to the Board of Supervisors opposing the zoning board's decision to approve a proposed 410-acre, utility-scale solar power plant north of Livermore.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 4:40 PM

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Posted by Joe Reed
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 10, 2020 at 9:43 am

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For those who are interested in reading more about the project, I suggest reading the studies and volumes of information available rather than just the comments in the press.
Web Link

Posted by Joe Reed
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 10, 2020 at 9:49 am

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And...another link here to the Environmental Impact Report:
Web Link

Posted by Rich Buckley
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 10, 2020 at 10:01 am

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Question: What is less environmentally disruptive?

(A) 410 Acre Solar Farm - Phase One - Scalable with more land.

(B) Thorium U-233 Molten Salt SMR producing 10 x Power Level of (A) and scaleable to 100 x Power Level of (A) with no increase in land use required all on about 10 acres or less.

10 acres is all that’s needed to scale up to a 1-Gigawatt (1-GW) "Passive-walkaway safe" Thorium plant. The linked video explains Web Link

A greater arch of understanding factor's in to play. We need to eventually sort through all types of power production, consider environmental impacts, consider the implications that drive countries to war, and look at energy alternatives. One alternative is now ready to go. Los Alamos Lab is building their own passively walk-away safe, Small Modular Reactor as an example. Other government military bases are looking to do the same. There are 4000+- active bases in the US.

Wind power combined with battery power is not dependable and leads to power shortages and peak power plant price-gouging that in turn leads inevitably to boarder conflicts and war. Our prime land is consumed needlessly catering to “solar panel and battery power people + wind farmers, (spab’s),” that our politicians can not say no to. Politicians are mostly unaware and believe their constituents are unaware of safe Thorium Small Modular Reactors (SMR).


The 410-acres in north Livermore is only the beginning for the spab’s. They are making their play for the entire North Livermore Valley, and just starting with just 410 acres. The power demand is so great, the spab’s know they can fill the entire North Livermore Valley. Who’s going to tell them no in an our ocean of ignorance.

Alternatively we can scale up and generate 1000 x the power generated in the 410 acres using about 10 acres with walkaway passive safety using Thorium 233 reators.


This could all be safely transferred into the old Westinghouse facility on Highway 84 (6705 Vallecitos Rd, Sunol and provide uninterrupted supply of electricity to the entire SF Bay Area.

We are just now waking up to realize there are safe, reliable, Thorium Molten Salt, SMR alternatives.

Let the solar panel industry stay on rooftops, parking lots and back yards and remote non-ag preserves out in the deserts. For Earth's sake keep them out of the North Livermore Valley and educate the people on why.

Posted by Rich Buckley
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 10, 2020 at 10:19 am

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Who owns the old Westinghouse plant at 6705 Vallecitos, Sunol?

I find it hard to believe what the data bases are showing.... that Alameda County owns it.

This must be wrong if anyone knows, please advise.

Posted by Mike
a resident of Val Vista
on Dec 10, 2020 at 11:53 am

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NIMBY, Not In My Back Yard is alive and well.

We don't own the land. We are not willing to buy the land. But we won't let you enjoy your land the way you want. Why because we are NIMBY.

Folks, the USA needs more protections for property rights. We have zoning laws, and numerous approvals that projects need to go through before anything can go forward. I think we also need to add a poison pill against lawsuits that seek to delay projects by using the courts. Anyone bringing suit against a development on private property should have to post a bond equal to the economic harm caused by the delay and that bond should be forfeit if that party loses the case. This is ridiculous. Private property is a foundation of our society.

The NIMBY see the world as filled with environmentally sensitive areas to serve their purposes. But if they want something, they are used to getting it by using the courts as a weapon. SAD!

Posted by Rich Buckley
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 11, 2020 at 8:04 am

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12/11/2020 Pax Romana Our Last Anchor Point?

Although I may remain sorrowfully ignorant of these matters I quote out of context, it appears to me our politicians of today, save a few, live with their eyes closed to the realities surrounding perhaps I do as well.

I sense it is never been more important to live authentically without hidden motive because forces are aligned right now, for the dominant reality to come into focus like a computer image on our screen of life. First it’s fuzzy, then specks of recognition jell, then suddenly it’s clear. The dominant reality ranging from our social behavior to our sciences, seem to perform through such waves of focus. In the meantime we give our allegiances to our last moment of focus, to our last anchor point of clarity, believing we live and serve wisely.

As I read this passage from “Plutarch’s Lives” of Plutarch who lived 2000 years ago, I felt like I was reading current events from the author-translator’s brief summation.

.....”but over nearly all the world known to the ancients was established the Pax Romana. Battles were indeed fought, and troops were marched upon Rome, but this was merely to decide who was to be the nominal head of the vast system of the Empire, and what had once been independent cities, countries, and nations submitted unhesitatingly to whoever represented that irresistible power. It might be imagined that a political system which destroyed all national individuality, and rendered patriotism in its highest sense scarcely possible, would have reacted unfavourably on the literary character of the age.”

The deep state of our current age is our Pax Romana of our day. We submit “unhesitatingly to whoever represented that irresistible power.” The dominant reality takes shape around us as we carry it within us.

The hardest thing to focus on, is the one thing that matters most, the light.

The light is the energy within that shapes the reality without. To see the light, look through your life-lens colored with compassion and you will automatically trigger a chain reaction to a new anchor point of focus in your life. This anchor point seems to grow out of the shadows of compassion as forgiveness that alters you as one let’s go of hidden motives and moves away from hate, away from mockery and into joy.

Posted by Rich Buckley
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 12, 2020 at 10:56 am

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Hi Elon,

Following up with your urging in the video, Web Link , that we discuss options and not run rabid with a Solar Power + Battery meme..., we need an environmental impact report that reviews and includes a viable alternative Thorium U-233 Molten Salt, Walk-Away Safe, Small Modular Reactor scalable up to 1-Giga Watt on 10 acres in North Livermore, or 10 Acres on the old Westinghouse Reactor Site on Highway 84, in Sunol-Pleasanton area.

Our politicians really have things fouled up. They will not address such sensible alternatives as:

Question: What is less environmentally disruptive?

(A) 410 Acre Solar Farm - Phase One - Scalable with more land.

(B) Thorium U-233 Molten Salt SMR producing 10 x Power Level of (A) and saleable to 100 x Power Level of (A) with no increase in land use required all on about 10 acres or less.

Let's not use up all our prime SF Bay Area ag lands for solar and battery. A lot of us politically agree with you and your vision.... to a point! Open ag space backing up urban areas is Earth Friendly and emotionally supportive to our human needs; building out our prime urban open space covered with wall to wall solar panels backed up by your batteries, may be an important national energy policy, but more sensitivity is needed in the fulfillment of your plan and where you take away our ag open space to implement it. Adjust your plan. Have you even thought about adjusting it? Are you even aware of what is going on here in your name? Step in here and participate. You have a lot of supporters right here in this area that disagree with what you are doing in North Livermore Valley.

Our politicians are frozen with fear, lack of independent thought, and just all seem to be bowing to the runaway meme: Solar and Battery is unchallengeable, regardless of it's actual merits.

Posted by Rich Buckley
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 13, 2020 at 8:40 am

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Elon Musk encourages discussion on North Livermore - 410 Acres.

Personal Attention Please Elon Musk,
[email protected]

Re: Preserving Suburban Ag Open Space

Hi Elon,

Following up with your urging in your video, Web Link that we discuss alternatives and not run rabid with a Solar Power + Battery meme.

Nowadays, we can safely do with Thorium Walkaway Safe - Molten Salt SMR's on about 10 acres what solar and batteries do on 40,000 acres.

Is there a reason you have to build out our suburban ag-open space we've worked 50 years to create and protect and administer?

Posted by Rich Buckley
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 15, 2020 at 11:35 am

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12/15/2020 BROKEN PARTNERSHIP? What's really behind Alameda County’s 410-Acre North Livermore Valley partnership break with Livermore City's Urban Boundary Limit?

Web Link (Mayor Marshall Kamena, Former Mayor of Livermore explains importance of Urban Boundary Limit.)

A trial balloon business template is being forged off a false paradigm that has become a brainless runaway meme we need to rein in. THE MEME: Solar Panels + Battery Back Up politically unchallengeable.

A main beneficiary (Elon Musk) PROBABLY knows nothing about the template’s locational environmental impact and how many of his own supporters don't want it done this way.

Elon is all about innovation, risk, and disruptive technology innovation and application.

He’s also an alert and hands-on leader focused on other matters currently. He's known for sometimes sleeping on the floors in his assembly plants to bring in the projects.

He appears to be going through a spiritual change. It reported in the news today, he recently sold all his luxury homes and is now acquiring a simple LA suburban home for his family. He's not saying less is more, the way California Governor Brown was pushing. Musk seems to be saying, I'm simplifying my life down to what's important, Family, Innovation, Application and Focus. The vast array of luxury homes he's sold were probably diverting his precious attention away from Family, Innovation, Application and Focus.

I'm not mad at Elon for not knowing what this local Livermore business template is doing. He's probably doesn't even know about it. We need to tell him and draw his attention, even if he is not legally connected. He is Mr. Battery. He is Mr. Electric, He is Mr. Solar Panel. He will probably be the main supplier once this local usurpation of suburban Ag Open Space takes root.

The challenge is not to stop the business template, but to first get Elon to step in and say "Not Here. Not this way."

If this template overpowers Alameda County politicians, it will overpower Santa Clara County and other countries as well. To name a few: The SF Bay WetLands, The old East Bay Salt Ponds, All of North Livermore Valley (not just 410 acres but 2,000+- acres), Large Runs Along Hwy 101 ,,, hold on, that may be a good location. SF Water Company Open Spaces (thousands of acres under high voltage lines), Sunol Golf Course .... hold on, that may be a good location along with the closed gravel pits.

Contact Elon Musk. [email protected] Get him engaged. There's better ways to implement.

Posted by Rich Buckley
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 22, 2020 at 7:05 am

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12/22/2020 Is Thorium Our Energy Future?

Web Link

Los Alamos National Lab is building a demonstration small modular reactor (SMR) on site. They are focused on modularity in reactor design. I suspect the focus will change as designs are tested for lifecycle costs. In any event the public is learning important concepts: (1) modularity means offsite reactor construction meaning quality control and scaling potential. (2) unexpected realization that we can do on 20 acres (including safety zone) what solar + battery backup does on 40,000 acres. And SMR’s are reliable 24/7/365 with “passive walkaway safety,” another new term we’re quickly learning.

Locally in Livermore, people are unset with PG&E gas and electric company in Northern California for a host of reasons. The most resent squabble with PG&E is they have focused all their behind-the-scenes political mussel to cause Alameda County Board of Supervisors to start allowing a solar farm + Battery Vault consuming our local Ag Open Space that has been carefully protected over the past 50 years by mutual agreement voted on by everyone.

In urban areas and their surrounding suburbs, open space is not considered the spot to place intensive 100% ground cover of service lanes and intensive equipment. The general idea is, that sort of intensive use belongs inside the city not using up our precious Ag open-space next to our cities. So we are now mad and looking at alternatives. Los Alamos’s SMR has started coming into focus as we understand the corruptive power-meme the solar industry + battery Back-up plants push (lobby in secret) on county supervisors. Once more the voters are betrayed. The solar industry and battery back-up vault people obviously plan to cover all our valley floor Ag Open Space and who’s going to stop them?

When it’s realized how we can do on 20 acres what solar + battery does on 40,000 acres, the 20 acre solutions start getting our attention. SMR’s window of opportunity is here.

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