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Bay Area shelter order extended through May 3 with new restrictions, clarifications

Original post made on Apr 1, 2020

Health officers in several Bay Area counties and cities on Tuesday extended a shelter-in-place order through May 3 to try to limit the spread of the COVID-19 coronavirus in the region.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, March 31, 2020, 12:27 PM

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23 people like this
Posted by What the?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2020 at 12:50 am

So in other words, according to the “new Order” with all these restrictions, eventually, no one will be allowed to work.
Hmmm, makes you wonder what this “pandemic” is really all about.


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Posted by AK
a resident of Alisal Elementary School
on Apr 1, 2020 at 7:09 am

To “What the” : Look up #AscendTheHierarchy to see where your comment ranks.


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Posted by Olorin
a resident of Val Vista
on Apr 1, 2020 at 8:00 am

Can the government really be that serious when they allow the airlines to continue to fly? This virus was spread by the airlines and the only reason that many of them have reduced the number of flights is because less people are flying, but many are still flying and that will continue to spread the virus. If I have rules to stay in my house then the airlines should have rules to stay in their hangars. Cargo flights only.


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Posted by Bridland Neighbor
a resident of Birdland
on Apr 1, 2020 at 10:37 am

This morning, a bit past 9 am, we had, all across our street, some sort of car parade making a lot of noise, some getting out of cars, and I am wondering if anyone knows what that is all about? Very rude noise, honking


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Posted by 5th Grade Mom
a resident of Walnut Grove Elementary School
on Apr 1, 2020 at 11:09 am

Hello Birdland Neighbor - The noise you heard this morning was a car parade of teachers/staff from Walnut Grove. The purpose was to let kids know that their teachers miss them - and is another way to engage with kids, when in-class school can't happen. It was very sweet - kids came out of their houses, made signs, were cheering for their teachers. It's a one-time thing - and is very "Pleasanton."


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Posted by Absurd
a resident of Birdland
on Apr 1, 2020 at 11:33 am

Teachers and staff from Walnut Grove who are disturbing the peace and breaking the shelter in place order to have 'car parades' should be arrested by the county authorities.

They are obviously breaking the Order specifications issued by the county/state.

What a great 'example' the Walnut Grove teachers are to the community.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Apr 1, 2020 at 12:44 pm

Absurd, what rules did they break? I don’t think it’s a noise ordinance given the time of day. They were in their cars, so still self-isolated. You are allowed outside, including your own yard as long as there is social distancing. Seems like a nice enough gesture to me, one that hopefully keeps the kids focused and doing their “home” work.


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Posted by mariposita
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 1, 2020 at 12:53 pm

This morning's car parade was a welcome, bright moment! Thanks to all the teachers and staff who planned and participated. You brought a breath of sunshine to an otherwise monotonous day and my past Roadrunners and I loved every smile, wave and beep! We love you, WG <3 <3 <3


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Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2020 at 1:17 pm

@Olorin,

This is why they are still flying:

Web Link


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Posted by Parent2
a resident of Birdland
on Apr 1, 2020 at 1:38 pm

Need ventilators and masks not parades. Honking was disruptive to my video conference.


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Posted by You've got to be kidding....
a resident of Birdland
on Apr 1, 2020 at 1:47 pm

No one should be out flagrantly disregarding the shelter in place directive. Allowable reasons to be out include obtaining food, medicine, etc.

I seriously doubt the police chief and city manager gave the Walnut Grove staff permission via a permit to hold a parade.

11.64.030 Permit required.
No parade shall take place unless and until a parade permit has been issued by the city manager upon recommendation by the chief. No person shall knowingly sponsor, participate or cause others to participate in a parade for which no permit has been issued. No person shall participate or cause others to participate in any manner inconsistent with an issued permit. (Ord. 2019 § 1, 2011)

No wonder people voted No on Measure M. The fact that the teachers just disregard the law and hold a parade during a statewide shelter in place order without getting the necessary permits means that the PUSD is run by a bunch of clueless idiots.


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Posted by Bird neighbor
a resident of Birdland
on Apr 1, 2020 at 2:07 pm

Any kind of frivolity undermines the seriousness of what we are all facing.


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Posted by Jen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2020 at 3:00 pm

If you have a problem with these more severe Newsom restrictions, call or text our mayor. He is the ultimate Decision maker for Pleasanton and Enforcer, not Newsom. The Bay Area has done better than any other metropolitan area in the country and we started shelter in place earliest, therefore we should get to lift shelter in place earlier. We have been successful despite Newsom dumping a bunch of sick cruisers through our ports and into Travis and our East Bay hospitals. Pelosi got her way with her “not in my city” attitude and forced the sick to the East Bay. This after she told us all it wasn’t contagious and to come shop and eat in the densely populated Chinatown. Our local and California politicians are the ones using this virus to keep restricting more and more our constitutional rights and with the latest removal of non essential businesses it is starting to feel like a socialist power grab.


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Posted by Birdlandfacepalm
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2020 at 3:05 pm

1. This “parade” isn’t a threat to anyone
2. Some of you are making it clear why the rest of P-town hates Birdland


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Posted by Karl
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 1, 2020 at 3:31 pm

I love Birdland and the rest of Pleasanton Valley.

We are poorer people of Pleasanton - guess the hate mentioned is from the rich people in the rest of town.

Step back and think about what this "parade" demonstrated regarding the dedication of people to follow the restrictions the Governor is asking us to take - STAY HOME EXCEPT FOR ESSENTIAL ACTIVITIES.

This parade was not "essential" and the fact the school lead this efforts demonstrates to students your can do whatever you want without regards to the impact on your community.

People need to GET SERIOUS about our situation.

It is not a hoax, it is not a joke and the deaths we are seeing are REAL.

Time to stop being selfish, time to stop putting yourselves first and time to put your community first.

It does not matter the Bay Area started restrictions sooner - this virus is growing - look at Santa Clara County numbers - and we are in serious trouble if people don't stay home.


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Posted by old person
a resident of Happy Valley
on Apr 1, 2020 at 3:52 pm

There is nothing political about what's going on. Rules are simple and should not require explanation. Wash hands, stay in.


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Posted by Jen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2020 at 4:17 pm

@old person, It is easy for an older person, as you describe yourself, to “stay in” since a majority of old people are retired and already stay in and collect their government check and/or pension! The rest of us have to work to pay for all the retired people in this country. You older people are at a higher risk and by all means should stay home indefinitely. The rest of us want to get our kids back to school and back to work and back to the dog parks and hiking trails and as a modern society, and should be able to so with social distancing and a face covering, scarf /mask...to me this is common sense and personal responsibility the smart people in the workforce of the Bay Area can handle.


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Posted by old person
a resident of Happy Valley
on Apr 1, 2020 at 4:39 pm

I am not retired. As stated earlier, the rules being asked of us are simple. Stay home and wash your hands. I know its hard to think of others but please do your patriotic duty so we can all get back to the lives we enjoy. Giving up parades, hikes and other non-essential pleasures is inconvenient, I agree.


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Posted by Jen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2020 at 5:04 pm

Till what date old guy? What metric is acceptable for you? The date has been moved 2 times by our imperial leader Newsom. This covid virus will probably never go away, it’s the nature of a virulent virus like this. We may get a vaccine and it will mutate months later. You want to keep kids stuck in their house all summer or till next fall or forever? Better to learn to live WITH the virus and modify our behavior out in our community to stay safe in our modern free society. We are not a police state. May 1st or at the latest the 3rd, has to be respected as an end date, if they want to keep ongoing compliance. This was original sold to us as just 2 weeks to help the hospitals get ready. There has to be an end date or there will be less and less compliance as people will say “I guess it’s not working “ and or damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Do you know why Santa Clara has double the cases of the rest of the Bay Area counties?


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Posted by Really?
a resident of Donlon Elementary School
on Apr 1, 2020 at 5:16 pm

This parade passed through my neighborhood, disturbing me at my work. In my opinion, it was obviously well intended, but foolish and naive. Consistent with tv footage, I noted there were 2 or 3 people in most of the vehicles in the "parade".

Without gong into broader issues, how is this consistent with the basic requirements of "social distancing" (it did not strike me as likely that each vehicle was composed of only same household members, given observations on age and sex), and what example does this set our children, more broadly?


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Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2020 at 5:21 pm

Socialist power grab? Jen, lay off the Alex Jones garbage and stay at home!


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Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2020 at 5:24 pm

@Jen,

Stay at home until the medical experts say otherwise. You have no idea what you are talking about.


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Posted by Jen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2020 at 5:43 pm

Boy Bob B, your neighbors with young kids must love you! The term “grumpy old men” doesn’t even begin..... BTW There are no Medical EXPERTS on THIS virus as it is a NOVEL (that means new) and no experts have experience with it, not to mention trying to get consensus among experts when it comes to long term restructuring of our society and behavior within the constrains of the Constitution......Or is that indefinitely expendable for you as well....


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Posted by Karl
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 1, 2020 at 6:53 pm

Jen
Please give up the old people are unfairly impacting the young people and that young people are supporting the old people.

I am an old person at risk but still, thank god, working. I am 61 years old and considered at risk.

I have been paying taxes in Pleasanton for 35 years including multiple bonds to support the schools and your children.

Pleasanton is the great place it is because all us old people have been paying for everything for years. You have not.

You want to talk about your rights. Well old people have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as much as you.

You and the others who are complaining about the current restrictions have got to be some of the most selfish people I have ever seen. If this virus does not get under control you and your children will be at risk in the future - either by catching this disease and ending up dead or by losing your job and financial future because you refuse to stay home and extend the time we have to live with these restrictions.

Yes, this is a terrible situation, but us old people depeding on age have also had to give up things for the good of our country / community:
The great depression
WW2
Hyper-inflation and stagnation in the 70s
The war on inflation in the 80s - would like a 15% mortgage rate?
The Loma Prieta earthquake
The Northridge earthquake
Sept 11th

So why don’t you get over yourself, realize we all have to work together to get through this terrible situation we are in. Set an example for those kids of yours on how to be a good, compassionate person that is doing what is best for your entire community and country.

Or I guess you can show them how to be selfish - maybe you just want all the old people to just catch this virus and die so you young people don’t have to support us. The problem with this choice is that when you are old, based on the example you showed your kids, they won’t want to support you and will wish old the people were dead.

What goes around comes around - and frankly you would deserve what get.


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Posted by Jen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2020 at 7:13 pm

Karl your ideas are unsustainable and unconstitutional. Sorry, think of another solution May 3rd will be here soon and the virus will be here for years. Being home with my kids for months but wanting an end in sight is hardly selfish. You get to stay home as long as you want.....enjoy your isolation.


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Posted by Karl
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 1, 2020 at 7:17 pm

One final comment for Jen:
If you have been watching the daily updates on TV, I suggest you do as they are talking about the “metric” you are asking for: Flattening the curve to minimize the the number of people that catch the disease and also who does from it.

They have models and graphs where they are projecting the time when the virus will be reduced.

The biggest variable id people and their commitment to following the guidelines.

My observation is that people have a problem following the spacing - it is everywhere you look.

Gov Cuomo provides lots of great insight and information in his daily updates.

While people complain about Trump’s daily updates, once he stops talking and the experts are given a chance, it is very informative

Give them a look and educate yourself, and maybe watch with your lids depending on their age.

Oh, and a little civics lesson - the governor and state health dept have the final say on restrictions, not the mayor.


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Posted by Karl
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 1, 2020 at 7:27 pm

Jen

You can use the “unconstitutional” excuse all you want.

You cam certainly do whatever you want.

The real question we all have to ask ourselves is what sort or person we want to be. Selfish? Do what is best for my community / country?

You have a choice to make and live (or not live) with it.

These terrible challenges we face bring to the surface what sort or person we are and what our true character is. And we will all be remembered for it.

How do you want to be remembered?


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Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2020 at 7:33 pm

Karl,

Very nicely said.


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Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Apr 1, 2020 at 7:36 pm

I think we have to recognize this event, while completely innocent and well intentioned, does violate the stay at home guidelines. I think any “justification” is just a poor means f justifying why it’s “ok”.

Bottom line, we must accept it’s not in alignment with the order.

Now, personally, I’m glad the teachers did it, because I personally don’t think it introduced any more harm, and I think the kids needed it. But that doesn’t mean it was right or in accordance with the guidelines.




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Posted by Jen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2020 at 7:39 pm

Karl this is never ending...someone will always be at risk. I choose personal responsibility for MY risk. You stay in your house forever and you will have nothing to worry about!


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Posted by Karl
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 1, 2020 at 7:51 pm

Thanks

We now know how Jen wants to be remembered......


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Posted by Jen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 1, 2020 at 8:03 pm

Karl, shouldn’t you be looking out your window to turn in your neighbors comrade?


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Posted by Karl
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 1, 2020 at 8:14 pm

More memories of Jen ........


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Posted by Member
a resident of Happy Valley
on Apr 1, 2020 at 9:21 pm

why is the shelter in place in order? to keep you out of the stores and respect social distancing. nothing done today violated of the PURPOSE of the shelter in place order. if the cars had people in them, they were family members. they were not blocking traffic, causing accidents or affecting others with germs. i know you all have been guilty of much worse. take your poor whiny stories about affecting your conference calls and hit the road. it's still a public neighborhood and regardless of the parade, noise is still allowed. you should all be ashamed of yourselves. obviously this was done to brighten the spirits of children who are at home. the world needs less people like you complainers and more people who care about the social/emotional benefit of the community.


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Posted by Member
a resident of Heritage Valley
on Apr 1, 2020 at 10:07 pm

I saw a police car in the video. Surely they were aware of the sweet gesture.


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Posted by Olorin
a resident of Val Vista
on Apr 1, 2020 at 11:05 pm

When I saw them go by the police vehicle was leading the parade.


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Posted by Spudly
a resident of Laguna Oaks
on Apr 1, 2020 at 11:21 pm

With the closing of dog parks, tennis courts, etc. do all the residents just walk by each other on the sidewalks which are even a tighter space than open park grounds?


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Posted by Esther
a resident of Livermore
on Apr 2, 2020 at 3:31 am

Those of who are upset about 6' rule and a parade. Please remember that people who had lost love one's to Covid 19 are really sad and felt that 6' rule would have protected their loved one. I have a friend that I'm very worried about, they are immunine comprised.


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Posted by Wow
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 2, 2020 at 5:39 am

Y2k with a cough


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Posted by Bill Brasky
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Apr 2, 2020 at 8:24 am

I like to air my grievances:

PUSD is going on with "Spring Break" which I am sure is because of government Union protocol, fine I get that; BUT why can't they at least respond to emails during this time. What will faculty be doing during this week off?

From Superintendent:
Next week is Spring Break (April 4-April 13). I want to encourage you to fully take a break from all school activities. Let this be a special time for your family to connect, without the added stressors typically associated with school. Likewise, our District facilities will be closed and district employees, including teachers, will be enjoying Spring Break with their families. Please know that staff will not be available to answer emails or phone calls, during this time.

On April 16, we will hold a Board Study Session to discuss grading options, prior to making any official decisions.



@William

Vitamin D and exercise are essential to physical and mental health.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Apr 2, 2020 at 9:35 am

If the numbers are to be believed out of the rest of the world, here is how the recent Pandemic is shaping up against the Flu for the first three months of the year.

COVID - 42000 (As of today)
Flu - 113000 as of a few days ago.

Oddly, China is reporting LESS infections than the US?? I'm calling complete and utter b.s. on this.

Read it and weep: Web Link

Safe link to the World Health Organization

Dan


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Posted by Long paid vacation
a resident of Birdland
on Apr 2, 2020 at 9:44 am

Regular companies have their employees work from home, and those employees work same amount of hours if not More. However, with teachers, they are fully paid to work from home, but on a few are giving students assignments. I know a lot of kids having 1 or 2 assignments only. What about the rest of other teachers? If we're to have online education, teachers should put more effort in teaching while class is still in session.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Apr 2, 2020 at 10:09 am

Teachers should be VERY careful what they wish for out of this Pandemic.

Should distance learning be an option, imagine that "virtual classes" could be expanded such that instead of 25-30 students, you could have 45-60. So instead of needing two teachers, you might need only one. For those at the bottom of the totem pole...you get the ax.

Additionally, now the parent would be able to peer into what and how the teacher is actually teaching. If you think that teachers already suffer with questions on these two fronts, it won't be anything like what would happen with distance learning.

Be careful what you wish for, Technology has a way of making certain labor obsolete.

Dan


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Posted by Really?
a resident of Donlon Elementary School
on Apr 2, 2020 at 10:11 am

DKHSK, the data on the web link you provided was apparently last updated on 02/04 - hopefully even Jen would agree that things have changed a lot since then.

To the posters who apparently just take it on faith that all the vehicles only had same household members - I think not.

I did not see a police vehicle in or "leading" the parade I witnessed, but assuming there was one at some point, I would like to know whether this was an individual, one off patrol car decision or part of a broader PPD policy to ignore, or even actively encourage, civil disobedience.


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Posted by Really?
a resident of Donlon Elementary School
on Apr 2, 2020 at 10:20 am

DKHSK, I apologize for, and retract, my first statement above - it appears this is just a date/month format. Other than that, I should add that I agree with your points,


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Apr 2, 2020 at 10:59 am

Thanks Really...


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Posted by Eric
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 2, 2020 at 11:09 am

@really,
I saw the parade and know many of the teachers in it. It was definitely just family members. You actually think teachers were jumping into reach others cars? I would hate to have to live with your brain... must be hard to experience such paranoia and distrust of people.

@Jen, I’ll feel really bad for your kids. Please just try to be a good mom and not all about selfishness. It’s just sad for us to read your posts and know that you are a real person with children who are in your care.


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Posted by Really?
a resident of Donlon Elementary School
on Apr 2, 2020 at 11:25 am

Eric, sorry, but how can you actually know this "definitely" if you do not even know all the teachers involved? Do you just "hope" this is the case? On a more general note, I just watched video of a similar, birthday party parade in a neighboring town, where people were very clearly breaching the 6', household distancing rule (eg there was a physical exchange of balloons). The tv presenters were portraying all this positively.

Now is a time for people to fully obey the rules that have been set, set an example to others and not make excuses for those who do not. This also extends to the (mostly young) joggers I frequently see, outside my window, making no effort whatsoever to maintain social distancing when overtaking walkers sharing the same space.


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Posted by Eric
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 2, 2020 at 12:09 pm

@Really,
So in your head, you think that the teachers showed up for a "car parade" that was set up as a way for them to let their students see them, lift some spirits, let some confused kids know that they still cared. So you think they showed up in the morning and were like "hey, let's carpool for this parade, that would be fun! Come on Sally, jump in!" This is what you think?? . Why in the world would they do that?
Of course I do not absolutely "know" that. I know some of the teachers and saw them with their families, I do not personally know all of the teachers family but I do not need to know that. Why? because I trust them.

I trust them the same way I trust them to teach my kids and follow reasonable mature judgement to keep the kids safe when they are at school. I trust them the same way I trust the crossing guard to cross my kids safely. I trust local restaurants to follow safety guidelines and not intentionally contaminate food. I trust my sister who is a nurse, to follow guidelines and not work with the general hospital population if she is showing Covid signs and not lie while getting screened about her health before her shift. I trust you, as a citizen of Pleasanton to follow the guidelines and not go to safeway and spit on the products.

You don't trust these people? Do you think the teachers are out there to have a car parade for fun (because of course they have nothing better to do...sarcasm) and while they are at it, decide to violate all of the social distancing we have been following for nearly 3 weeks? That is really what you think and are concerned about right now?


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Posted by Pete
a resident of Downtown
on Apr 2, 2020 at 12:24 pm

Karl, as someone who did not vote for President Trump I am very appreciative of the job he is trying to do and more than angry at the level of non help he is getting from some who helped make this mess worse. This is a time for us to all come together and assist our country as it goes through this mess. My brother lives in New York and he said that Cuomo and DeBlasio and trying to correct what they fueled. Let's put aside our differences and help all Americans as we work through this.


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Posted by Really?
a resident of Donlon Elementary School
on Apr 2, 2020 at 12:32 pm

Eric, I have no doubt this was well intended. I stated so in my first post. Even if social distancing was fully maintained here, though, to the best of my understanding this parade did not fit any of the exception criteria on "shelter in place". It may well also encourage similar parades, like the birthday party one I referenced above, where social distancing was clearly not met.

It's time to adhere to the rules and not make emotional exceptions to them.
If we don't, medical advice is that many more people will die than need to.


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Posted by Sammy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 2, 2020 at 3:22 pm

Japan has 127 million people and has only has 70 deaths from Covid 19 WITHOUT doing the draconian “stay at home” orders...how did Japan do it? They were all required to wear a face covering in public. That allowed their economy to keep humming along and their kids to stay in school. (A face covering can be a handmade mask,scarf,or work mask) Sterile masks continue to go to hospitals.


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Posted by Karl
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 2, 2020 at 3:49 pm

Pete
I could not agree with you more.

I was actually on a business in Europe 3 weeks ago and flew back home on March 12th. I stood in JFK Customs for a couple hours, with hundreds of potentially infected fellow travelers rushing toget home safely.

All of my relatives are in New Jersey, an area that is pretty much the same as NYC.

I’m ok now as I’m past 2 weeks without symptoms, but I was very worried given the terrible situation in NYC.

I have been watching Gov Cuomo’s daily briefings and have been very impressed. They are informative and non-political. The social distancing issue he had to address daily helped me understand the seriousness of following the guidelines to the letter and to stay at home with few exceptions.

I am registered non-partisan and did not vote for Trump or Clinton.

I have sent Gov Cuomo two emails. One saying what a great job he is doing without the politics - and how this Californian born in Rochester NY really appreciated him.

The second email asked him to push aside Biden - a good man but way to old and feeble minded to be president - and run for president. I would vote for him!


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Posted by Wow
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 3, 2020 at 7:05 am

Cuomo is responsible for the state of New York. The New York political elite were telling people that this was no big deal fo out and mingle. Cuomo clearly has done a lousy job preparing and reacting to this issue. Cuomo has been to busy going after trump and the feds when it is he who didn't do his job. When you let anyone come to your state and or city then you can expect these results.
Cuomo is a failure who has always put politics above the people.
Right now New York is a craphole thanks to cuomo inaction and clueless corruption. Yea cuomo for president leading the most failed state in an emergency while blaming everyone else. Yea that's leadership. What a loser this guy is.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Apr 3, 2020 at 10:44 am

New York State is by far in worse condition than any other State. It is laughable to think of Cuomo as being a "leader" in the management of the Pandemic.


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Posted by sjd
a resident of Livermore
on Apr 3, 2020 at 11:18 am

Cuomo is doing fine for the state. DeBlasio is the one that really messed it all up.


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Posted by Big Matt
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 3, 2020 at 12:21 pm

Tell all these teachers and administrators play time is over and they have to file for unemployment like the rest of us. They will have these kids back in class so fast it will make your head spin!


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Posted by Pete
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 3, 2020 at 1:15 pm

News from NYC this morning. Family/4 cousins have covid 19...as you read this piece. Two in their twenties and parents in late fifties. Cousin Steve says this is 3 times worse than any flu he’s ever had. It’s the stomach flu and respiratory flu combined x3. He says trains/subway are still packed at times and kids playing in the school yard etc. He is a lifetime NYC resident and disappointed by the lack of control NYC politicians have over this situation. We are best to be advised of our future, considering the news does not actively show video of disregard, even many New Yorkers have...go figure.
We are doing well to continue due diligence. School is out for year...not going back anytime soon. Students already know it...best to prepare for next year...after summer. Any parents I know, would not send kids back this year cycle. Be safe/healthy.


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Posted by Karl
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 3, 2020 at 5:26 pm

Pete

Very sorry to hear about your family.

I hope it works out ok.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Apr 3, 2020 at 5:38 pm

After 2 weeks of stay in place we have the following COVID numbers in California:

10,701 Total Infections
237 Deaths

California Department of Public Health: Web Link

Interesting, no?

Dan



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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Apr 3, 2020 at 5:52 pm

California Department of Health does not say what the percentage of infection rate is compared to those tested, so I'm not sure what that number is.

Here is where they have their numbers: Web Link

We also don't know anything about the populations of who died. Is it mostly seniors and infants? Are there multiple complications?

The State is not doing a very good job of giving us information. In fact, its doing a REALLY crappy ( the SH-word) job.

Dan


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Posted by Michael Austin
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Apr 3, 2020 at 5:55 pm

Getting word out today for everyone to mask up is four weeks late. The mask up recommendation should have been issued March 01, 2020.


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Posted by Karl
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 3, 2020 at 6:42 pm

My sister the public health educator with a MPH degree told me to use two sources to get accurate and timely information;

Centers for Disease Control: cdc.gov

California Health Dept: chph.ca.gov

I agree our state has not done a good job. But even though many of you vilify Gov Cuomo, I have been watching his updates for three weeks due to my travel from the EU that took me thru JFK customs along with hundreds of others getting before the travel ban, and he is presenting all the details for NY and other states.

Take the time to educate yourself - don’t rely on others to feed you information ypu can get for yourself.


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Posted by Pete
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 3, 2020 at 7:08 pm

Thanks, Karl...! Steve is strong, taken care of by wife(Patty) through the worst. Now she has virus. They brought up a good point...worth sharing. This would go along with Dan's info.
Use this format/blog as a guide. Unless we make a concerted effort, accumulating questions, that you may have, that are reasonable, in nature, to have answered by a professional medical group. Example; per Dan's weblink...of the 10,700 approx. confirmed virus cases, half are from the 18-49 age group. Of the confirmed cases, how many of these have had their flu shot this year? Is it known whether the pneumococcal vaccine(older adults) assists in deterring and/or creating a lesser type reaction to virus?
Steve is a chef, NYC, he believes being infected happened at work. In many cases within the industry, owners of businesses will threaten employees if they do not work...they will be fired. How might these business owners be reassured that our government policies will be worth their due diligence, to comply?
As we speak, some Kaisers are putting up tents, within parking lots...understanding within the next two weeks will be a telling sign of what to come...hopefully...nothing...nonetheless...it is happening.
It does no good, to say what we should of, would of done...already. Perhaps Dan could take all questions, he deemed reasonable and forward to his preferred expertise to answer...? Or anyone of good character.
I am just a longtime resident, with enough responsibility spread so thin now, that prioritizing is not an option...only a reactionary lifestyle. Much like most now. Assist in helping others...through knowledge.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Apr 3, 2020 at 9:56 pm

The CDC get their numbers from the States. Info at the federal level is only good if the states are accurate.

The bigger point is we are not being informed by the state as to which population is dying. If it is mainly the elderly, then there needs to be changes done to isolate them, and not the whole population.


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Posted by Karl
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Apr 4, 2020 at 5:52 am

Latest blast at Trump by The Washington Post - blocking the export of US made PPE.

Quotes Germany’s outrage. Fails to mention Germany did the same thing as noted in a Reuters article on March 9.

My only point here is to highlight the need to vigilante in ensuring the facts you read are accurate.


Pete - glad to hear things are ok


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Posted by Wombat
a resident of Downtown
on Apr 4, 2020 at 10:46 am

@Karl

I looked up your claim. What I found was stories about Germany’s outrage over the fact that 200,000 face masks which were already ordered and paid for by Berlin Police from the US company 3M’s factory in China were apparently “confiscated” in Thailand and diverted to the US under pressure from US authorities. German officials were complaining about this act as “Wild West tactics” and “piracy”.


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Posted by Annie
a resident of Canyon Oaks
on Apr 10, 2020 at 4:17 am

"German officials were complaining about this act as “Wild West tactics” and “piracy”."
Because that is exactly what it is. We are all in this. This darn virus has affected lives of everybody just look at Italy or Spain. And instead of helping and sharing there is stealth and snatching? This pandemic is bigger and more important than all of us. People should wake up!

Annie
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