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Coronavirus impacts continue to be felt in Tri-Valley

Original post made on Mar 10, 2020

Tri-Valley residents are feeling the effects of novel coronavirus (COVID-19), with public gatherings and major events being canceled or postponed this week to help slow transmission of the virus in their communities.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 7:33 PM

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Posted by Michael Austin
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Mar 10, 2020 at 9:11 pm

I was tuned in this evening for a seventy-five minute telephone conference call discussing Corona Virus, sponsored by Steve Glazer. One interesting piece of information I learned during this discussion:

Data from South Korea indicated, "children are carriers of this virus, they take it home to their parents and grandparents". The children are not ill with this virus, probably due to their immunity from antibiotic injections and treatments over several years. Children have strong immunity systems verses elderly, that have weakened immunity systems.


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Posted by Not Soccer Mom
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Mar 10, 2020 at 9:43 pm

They are saying the reason children are not getting sick is because they are not getting the cytokine storms that is causing the inflammation in the lungs that we are seeing in adults, and I believe this is because of an under active immune system. Web Link


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Posted by Do we trust the district?
a resident of Castlewood
on Mar 11, 2020 at 12:30 pm

I'm not sure if I trust the district to properly close our schools. Pleasanton Middle School had a Norovirus outbreak earlier this year, with a large amount of absences (I think 55%, but could be wrong). The superintendent refused to close the school and my child ended up sick. I'm not sure I trust his decision making skills on this one.


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Posted by Time to Stay Home & Healthy
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Mar 11, 2020 at 4:03 pm

My kids will most likely be staying home next week.

A COVID outbreak in the PUSD high schools, on the scale of last fall's stomach bug (40% infected at PMS one day), would lead to 3-4 fatalities just among the students. This is based on school populations > 2000 (so 4000 students total, 1600 becoming infected) and CDC/WHO data indicating a 0.2% fatality rate for ages 10-29.

Of course, the toll on parents and other caregivers would be far higher, since the fatality rate itself grows exponentially with age. And this doesn't include the middle school kids either (another 2-3 fatalities).

The daily exponential graph of the confirmed cases points to a system-overload scenario at the regional hospitals within 2-3 weeks. The fatality rate in that case should be higher than 0.2%, just due to the chaos, although younger healthier people would be more likely to get care.

The thing about the 2-3 week time is that's also how the infection progresses. Many of those getting sick next week will need an ICU in 2-3 weeks, and there won't be enough.

So next week is the time to Stay Home & Healthy.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Mar 11, 2020 at 4:29 pm

CDC Corona Virus updated today, 3/11/20: Web Link

Here are the FACTS so far:

Total cases: 938
Total deaths: 29
Jurisdictions reporting cases: 39 (38 states and District of Columbia)

That's TOTAL in the US.

Get a grip, people.

Dan




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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Mar 11, 2020 at 4:36 pm

I think more global changes need to be made. It doesn’t make sense to have kids home next week, back in school for two weeks, and then off again for spring break for a week. Seems like a recipe for having students running all over town and potentially getting exposed and then going back to school to spread any exposure and then bringing that exposure home again.

This is so much more complicated. Do we close the schools for the rest of the year? Do we try online classes? What about seniors and finals and graduation. I don’t want anyone to get sick, let alone die from this, but let’s have those with information and expertise make these decisions—and that goes well beyond the district office in my opinion.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Mar 11, 2020 at 4:40 pm

World Health Organization Stats for 3/11/20:

SITUATION IN NUMBERS total and new cases in last 24 hours

Globally
-118 326 confirmed (4627 new) 4292 deaths (280 new)

China
-80,955 confirmed (31 new) 3162 deaths (22 new)

Outside of China
-37,371 confirmed (4596 new) 1130 deaths (258 new)

-113 countries/territories/ areas (4 new)

7.8 billion population

-118,326 confirmed = .000015 of the total population confirmed
-4292 deceased = .00000055 of total population deceased.

With number like these, I can see why there is no more toilet paper left at Costco. /s

Calm the heck down.

Dan


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Mar 11, 2020 at 4:51 pm

Time To Stay Home...,

Knock it off!

40% is a completely RIDICULOUS number and shows fear mongering at its worst!

Getting a stomach bug because of food poisoning is a little different than the spread of a virus.

Good grief!!

Dan


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Mar 11, 2020 at 6:21 pm

Dan, come on. At least don’t use statistics to lie.

118,326 confirmed
4,292 deceased

That’s .03627267 deceased of the confirmed cases.

Yes, then you can say the 118K is only known cases. There could be far more unreported for a variety of reasons and it would lower that 3.6% deaths. That also assumes that all deaths are reported too. So known, unknown, unknown unknowns. You remember.

Let’s go with pandemic and caution. No need for panic. We could shut the borders—oooops, we are partially doing that as of a short time ago.


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Posted by skip webb
a resident of Castlewood
on Mar 11, 2020 at 6:42 pm

good Lord lady give it a rest


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Mar 11, 2020 at 7:02 pm

Thanks Skip. Don’t like info that is wrong or stretches the truth.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Mar 11, 2020 at 7:03 pm

Kathleen,

Apples and oranges comparison.

I stand by my comments.

Oh, and Trump just instituted another travel ban. This time, from Europe: Web Link

Believe it or not, instead of saying Trump isn't doing enough, now they're saying that this is overkill and possibly "racist".

Anybody keeping track of all the flip-flopping coming out of the democrats?

I'd laugh if I wasn't so disgusted with the fear-mongering.

Dan


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Mar 11, 2020 at 7:11 pm

Let's face it: No matter what Trump does, even in the name of public health, the Democrats will ALWAYS accuse him of racism.

Now you know why Trump won in 2016 and will win again in 2020.

All this politics because of a virus that started in China.

Disgusting.

Dan


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Posted by Ian
a resident of Hacienda Gardens
on Mar 11, 2020 at 7:15 pm

Dan,

Give it a rest. What does it matter to you that people are concerned? It apparently doesn't worry you, so why jump on to make this political and spread ill-will? Experts who have dedicated their careers to understanding and preventing infectious disease say that this is a serious virus with the need for serious action to mitigate the effects. That's enough for me and other clear-headed people.


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Posted by Michael Austin
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Mar 11, 2020 at 7:22 pm

Corona Virus is Pandemic, no matter one's opinion or how one arrives at one's opinion. The pandemic is real, it cannot be maligned or denied. One can ignore it.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Mar 11, 2020 at 7:32 pm

Ian,

" It apparently doesn't worry you, so why jump on to make this political and spread ill-will?"

So you apparently haven't been following the news. Democrats made it political more than a month ago, when the government took massive steps to halt travel from China. This is widely acknowledged to have slowed down the spread to the US.

What did the Dems say? "Trump is a racist".

I, and other politically minded people didn't cast the first stone. We never do. We just fight back twice as hard and LOVE to make democrats eat their words. Don't like it? Tough. Don't read or comment on my posts. I assure you, if I am proven wrong, I will admit it. I have proof of over 15 years commenting here at PW.

"Experts who have dedicated their careers to understanding and preventing infectious disease say that this is a serious virus with the need for serious action to mitigate the effects."

There were other just-as-serious viruses in the last 15 years that took the government MANY MONTHS to respond and we persevered. I was cautious, but not overly concerned then, and I'm not overly concerned now. I think cutting off travel is actually going to help more.

All I want to know is: why is it now different? Why didn't people complain about how the gov was acting during Ebola (which personally scared me more than the rest)?

"That's enough for me and other clear-headed people."

Ahhh, the dig.

So typical.

Respectfully,

Dan








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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Mar 11, 2020 at 7:33 pm

Nobody is denying its a "pandemic". Just that people are loosing their minds over it.


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Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 11, 2020 at 7:35 pm

We really need to focus on flattening the curve to that our medical resources and hospitals aren't overwhelmed. If a lot of people are going to get it. We don't want them to get it all at once.

Web Link


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Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 11, 2020 at 7:36 pm

... so that ...


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