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Offshore wind prompts fire weather watch, possible PG&E shutoffs

Original post made on Oct 8, 2019

Strong, dry winds across large areas of Northern and Central California may prompt PG&E to turn off power across 30 counties Wednesday and Thursday.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, October 7, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Posted by Really?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 8, 2019 at 10:53 am

I can't believe PG&E has such crappy equipment that they have to shut off power because it is windy. I lived in Texas for many years, we had hurricanes and tornadoes. Never once was the power shut off in anticipation of it being windy. PG&E management ought to be thrown out (without all of the bonuses) and replaced with people that know how to run a power company.


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Posted by Concerned
a resident of Las Positas
on Oct 8, 2019 at 11:39 am

This is the consequence of PG&E getting sued for the previous fires.


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Posted by Thank Your Government
a resident of California Somerset
on Oct 8, 2019 at 12:05 pm

PG&E met the wind standards that the government set for their towers. However, the standard turned out to be too low.

The Government refused to clear underbrush fuel from its forests so when PG&E equipment sparked from the high winds, all of this stuff caught on fire and caused what should have been a relatively small fire to become the horrible disaster.

If I were PG&E I would do the same thing that they are. Anytime there are gusts over 50MPH, shut things down. Maybe the voters will realize the true cause of this major inconvenience and elect better people who will in turn get hold of the bureaucrats responsible for all of this. Then again, this is California, so maybe not!


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Posted by Grumpy
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Oct 8, 2019 at 12:24 pm

Grumpy is a registered user.

To argue that PG&E is blameless is fantasy.

PG&E is a mess, and is ripe for being taken over in bankruptcy or even dismantled completely.

Could the government do more in preventing fires by setting better standards? Totally. I'm just floored to hear antigovernment people arguing for more regulation.

Onto the more important point. This announcement of PG&E was nuts. 40k people being affected but the alerts went out to a few million people. That's nonsense. Why scare or worry so many people needlessly?


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Oct 8, 2019 at 2:27 pm

DKHSK is a registered user.

"Totally. I'm just floored to hear antigovernment people arguing for more regulation. "

Conservatives have been talking about harvesting forests due to overgrowth since I can remember. It's been the left that has wanted to keep things "as nature intended" and this is just one of the unintended consequences of giving them what they asked.

Sure, dismantle our power supply...good suggestion. <--- sarcasm.

Dan


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Posted by Grumpy
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Oct 8, 2019 at 2:59 pm

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Dan, why on earth would you think dismantling PG&E the inept company means dismantling the state's power supply grid? That's like saying that closing Chevron means sending all of the planet's fossil fuel supplies to outer space.

(And we did break up Standard Oil, which is Chevron, as you may recall. Yet we still have gas. It's a bit pricey this week but a ton cheaper than had the monopoly still existed.)


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Posted by Grumpy
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Oct 8, 2019 at 3:10 pm

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But agreed on brush clearing. It's not logging--the problem is mostly low lying brush and scrub--but for decades forest managers had made the mistake of not clearing brush in a misguided attempt to not interfere with nature. They learned the error a couple of decades ago and now they do actively burn or clear. However, since PG&E wasn't clearing their private land as often as they should have, I have no problems with the state doing that work. Just send them the bill.


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Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Oct 8, 2019 at 3:12 pm

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Grumpy,

Oh I don't know, perhaps your using the word "dismantle" was not succinct enough for me?

Dan


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Posted by James Michael
a resident of Val Vista
on Oct 8, 2019 at 3:26 pm

James Michael is a registered user.

PG&E is a "mess" and they should be "dismantled"? And who should take over...the State of California? Because we all know that this state is not a mess right...PG&E is only doing what they have to because of the way the state applies the Inverse Condemnation law. So, get used to it and if you want to lay blame then it should b aimed at Sacramento and one party rule.


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Posted by Grumpy
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Oct 8, 2019 at 3:59 pm

Grumpy is a registered user.

I'm referring to bankruptcy, and the difference between debtor-in-possession and having the court take over and divide up the assets or break the corporation up.

Bankruptcy is established by the federal Constitution. It has nothing to do with condemnation. It's not a taking. It's a winding up. The state is a creditor and might have other rights to step in.

James, I see you have a unique theory as to why PG&E is failing, but even so, they are in trouble and liquidation may make more sense.


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Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Oct 8, 2019 at 7:19 pm

Dismantle pg&e, fine, they have fault in some of these disasters. But dismantle the ca gov that continues to collect funds through rate payers to rebuild for the governments contributing incompetence as well.

Would love to see SF run a power and distribution company, maybe they can collect methane from all the poop on the streets


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Posted by Grumpy
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Oct 9, 2019 at 8:03 am

Grumpy is a registered user.

SF runs their own water company, and quite successfully. They own a lot of land in the Tri-valley area because of that.

I get it that you guys hate the Democrats and the state government. I just don't know why you need to drag that into every single discussion. You hate the Democrats the way they hate Trump, and yet it would be the height of nonsense for them to accuse Trump of having had a major role to play in this--even though he has tried to get involved in brush clearing conversations. That's why no one has.

The fact is that PG&E failed repeatedly, and by filing for bankruptcy they voluntarily admitted it and put the power in the hands of the federal bankruptcy court as a way to avoid having the whole thing come crashing down because of their errors. It's totally straightforward. No need to find other reasons for it.


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