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Pleasanton: Owner wants to replace old Denny's with multi-tenant building

Original post made on Oct 2, 2019

The owner of the Owens Drive property where the former Denny's restaurant building has sat vacant for years is proposing to redevelop the site with a larger commercial building to accommodate multiple tenants.

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Posted by Grumpy
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Oct 2, 2019 at 10:14 am

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Oh absolutely not.

The Chick-fil-A made traffic there a nightmare. Anything that draws more people in will just cause gridlock.

There's not enough room on that lot for restaurant parking and office use. And there's no reasonable way to mesh the traffic on that lot with the Chick-fil-A line. Frankly, Chick-fil-A should have been built on that lot in the first place and not deeper in on what used to be a hill. But that's too late.

I feel bad for the owner here, as pre-chicken this would have been a good project. But reality is what it is. There just isn't room to segregate the traffic to this lot and the line behind it.

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Posted by Jack
a resident of Downtown
on Oct 2, 2019 at 10:32 am

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Grumpy I feel your pain, but why should the Denny's guy be penalized because our planners made such a mess of the Chick Fil A project? Chick Fil A should be made to handle its own impacts. Limiting Denny's redevelopment because of mistakes by the planning department is simply not fair...

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Posted by Grumpy
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Oct 2, 2019 at 10:42 am

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I know it's not fair. But every project has to be evaluated by its further impact, not by its impact had the neighbors been empty lots. So the owner has to be affected.

Now, I agree that the city should have pursued or should be pursuing from Chick-fil-A some sort of mitigation. And if that mitigation truly solves the problem, then I'm okay with the Denny's owner going ahead. But that new turn lane has nothing to do with where the cars will go through the stub court to wait in line.

Maybe eliminating that Johnson Ct and replacing it with a separate waiting lane can solve the problem. But that's not the current proposal.

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Posted by nightmare
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 2, 2019 at 10:45 am

Grumpy and Jack,

I do not think the city employees who approve these developments live in Pleasanton.

On Friday and Saturday late afternoons and evenings, the traffic from Chick-fil-A not only backs up on Owens but on Hopyard road. I have seen people exiting off of 580 onto Hopyard road have to slam on brakes to avoid rear-ending stopped traffic on southbound Hopyard.

I no longer shop in that area of town and go to Livermore and Dublin instead. With the safety risks of entering that area, plus the loiterers/day laborers from Home Depot sitting and standing on neighboring properties like Lazy Boy, etc., it is no longer a destination for our family whatsoever.

Furthermore, the other issue is that there is a narrow big rig loading dock in the shopping center with Bevmo and the grocery store that is right next to the jam-packed parking lot where the standstill traffic on Chick-fil-A's parking lot idles. Trucks can no longer back into the loading dock. I used to shop in that shopping center, but since they can't seem to keep their shelves stocked because they can no longer get timely deliveries, I shop instead in Livermore.

If another business is added to that area, I would not be surprised if the tenants of the entire shopping center choose to exit. All that will be left is Chick-fil-A and In-and-Out burger.

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Posted by Grumpy
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Oct 2, 2019 at 10:54 am

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Yeah, I've almost been backed into a few times by those trucks while in line.

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Posted by Solution
a resident of Birdland
on Oct 3, 2019 at 8:01 am

A simple solution to improve traffic flow in that parking lot is to have Chick-fil-A fill their drive-through orders faster. Then there wouldn't be a long line.

Yes, we really need a right-turn lane from Hopyard onto Owens. Many times, the backup there is because one driver is going straight on Hopyard, and would sit at the right light. While the rest us are forced to wait behind that driver while trying to make a right turn.

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Posted by nightmare
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 3, 2019 at 8:13 am

Having In-and-Out and Chick-fil-A fill orders faster is not going to reduce the traffic.

There are 5 lanes already. There is no room to add an additional 6th right turn lane from Hopyard to Owens because both Chick-fil-A and the brick office building at the corner of Owens and Hopyard are built so close to Hopyard that there is no room to place an additional lane.

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Posted by JackBQuick
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 3, 2019 at 10:49 am

I know! Let's put a Costco near there! That should fix the traffic problems!

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Posted by Spudly
a resident of Laguna Oaks
on Oct 3, 2019 at 1:03 pm

The good news is about the owner. Mash is a Pleasanton resident and a very conscientious business man. I cannot think of a better person to ensure the job is completed with all aspects considered.

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Posted by Ron
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Oct 4, 2019 at 3:27 pm

No disrespect to any of the previous commenters, but the problem is not easily solved. There is a huge void in the common sense department of our Pleasanton planning commission. If a proper traffic study was brought forth prior to Chick-Fil-A being built none of this would be a problem. The simple facts are that the area can not handle any more traffic. It can not even handle the traffic now as it exists. There is a constant traffic jam in that small entrance and exit. Tractors and trailers must have access to deliver products to all the businesses in that center and unfortunately coupled with the customer traffic for the center, that makes the traffic jam gridlock. There was a huge error made by our planning commission in allowing Chick-Fil-A to build and operate in that location. They should consider buying the Denny’s property from Mash and then work on a exit plan for all of this mess that they created. Hopefully this will serve as a lesson going forward to use common sense and if needed hire the proper traffic consultants to review these new proposals. God forbid, if they don’t do this on the Costco project we will have a true nightmare in that area and onto Stoneridge Drive.

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Posted by Chris
a resident of Beratlis Place
on Oct 6, 2019 at 12:15 pm

JackBQuick - Right? LOL That made me chuckle. Sad but true. Folks it all comes down to money, money money...Pink Floyd had it right. Peace.

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Posted by Pleasanton resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 7, 2019 at 9:19 am

With the existing traffic in that area, that would to be challenging for future residents to even attempt to get into their homes.

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Posted by Sad
a resident of Carriage Gardens
on Oct 9, 2019 at 3:59 pm

I sure do miss my Grand Slam Breakfasts........but Chik-fi-lay is a great replacement.

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Posted by just asking
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 10, 2019 at 8:16 am

Again our government reps screwed us. Lets not forget owens drive being reduced to one lane. Moronic!!!!!!!!!!! chik fila should have gone where dennys is and maybe the city could have purchased that brick building and built a dedicated right turn lane their.

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