The national democratic party leadership, from Schumer, Pelosi, down through local Swalwell have been front and center with the national democratic party hatred towards Trump and republicans in general, have turned their backs and allowed this intense hate from the democratic ranks, and have allowed it to continue, rather than step up to the podium and ask for calm.

Maxine Waters is again calling for harassment of Trump supporters and Republicans. Antifa is celebrated by the Left as being anti-fascist as they damage property, threaten, and attack those they don't agree with. Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians are routinely called racists, Nazis, haters, anti-immigrant, deplorables, mysogynists, and on and on. In this climate, the attack on Mr. Peters is no surprise.

How outrageous. Swalwell you are partly responsible for this. All you have done for the past 19 months is badmouth the POTUS, and Republicans. Your district will wake up and vote you out. You have done absolutely nothing to make your district a better place to live.
#WalkAway

This happened SUNDAY. Why is it just showing up in Pleasanton Weekly today??? It was in national news Monday (based on my search), but not local news. Shameful.

Christopher, I agree! Swalwell ran as a moderate, but he has turned out to be anything but. It's time for him to go before he embarrasses our district more. I will be voting for Rudy Peters.

While violence is never the answer, I am appalled at the comments thus far, not addressing at all the unconscionable behavior, language, attitude, lack of knowledge or capability, and proven LIES from POTUS himself. No one can force another human to act like this man did against Peters; therefore, this is not the doing of Swalwell or anyone other than the perpetrator. But before you point fingers, think about the whole picture and the change in climate of our nation since the 2016 election. This is the first president that I've experienced - whether he's been considered "good," "bad," or "otherwise" - who's seemed to have given permission to folks of both parties to act in violent, crude, and deplorable ways to other Americans. Let's call the Dems "weak, ugly, crying, etc." Let's back accused child molesters and encourage the stripping away of rights of women, veterans, the elderly. There will be no healing until the man at the top encourages it, and he's not trending that way.

All this crap is ok when the deplorables do it. That guy was a drunk wake up people not an angry Dem. Don't point
Fingers unless your willing to point them to yourself. You see how easy it is to pass the blame.

Mike g.; perhaps you could provide some examples of "deplorables" attacking people for political reasons. According to the KTVU interview with that attacker's mother, they were working at or had come from a Democratic Party info booth at the same event. And thanks for reinforcing my comments above.

Appalled; other than the attacker yelling "F Trump", what does the President have to do with this? I don't think he was even in California a the time.

@RJ :"other than the attacker yelling "F Trump", what does the President have to do with this? I don't think he was even in California a the time."

Get a clue.

"If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously, OK? Just knock the hell ... I promise you I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise." - Donald Trump, Feb. 1, 2016

""Get him out," Trump said of a protester. "Try not to hurt him. If you do, I'll defend you in court. Don't worry about it."
( On March 9, 2016, as a protester was being escorted out of a Trump rally in Fayetteville, North Carolina, he was sucker-punched by a Trump supporter.)

""When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just seen them thrown in, rough. I said, 'Please don’t be too nice.'" - Donald Trump, July 2017

Doug,

Still waiting for examples of "deplorables" attacking people with whom they disagree. Who has acted on the quotes you provided?

Your veiled personal insult is duly noted.

@RJ,
Offhand there was the woman protesting in Chatlottesville who was murdered by a guy in a car, he intended to kill even more people.

More locally and recently a Sihk man in Stanislaus county was badly beaten and told to go back to his own country last month.
There are other examples but those are two easy ones to think of.

You have your head in the cement if you think that Trump supporters never act in violence towards those they disagree with.

The amount of left wing democrat violence committed on Republicans is RIDICULOUS.

Have we forgotten the attempted assassination of Republicans at the baseball practice that seriously injured Rep Steve Scalise? How about the beating Senator Rand Paul took from his neighbor?

Both were committed by far-left wing democrat kooks (but I repeat myself).

The amount of protests damaging cities since Trump was elected is astonishing. Communists from the democratic party are raging everywhere and you know why, because Trump is EFFECTIVE!

You dems trashed every republican President since Reagan. You claimed all republicans hitler and you wanted war. Now you about it!

Winning.

@DKHSK

Nicely reasoned and argued, Dan. I’m not in the habit of giving compliments to opponents in political debates, but I can honestly say that I believe that you possess an intellect on par with that of Donald Trump.

Trump? Wharton Graduate?

Thanks Doug.

Now go out and play.

Winning.

aK, nice try. Nobody is claiming that there are kooks and criminals across the political spectrum but recent events seem to lean far more towards violence from the left.

A NY Times article posted today does not tie James Fields, the driver of the car that killed the young woman in Charlottesville, to Trump. He was at a rally that turned into a riot when counter protesting morons started fighting with the original group of morons.

As far as the Sikhs who were attacked: Sahib Singh Natt of Manteca was attacked by the son of a Bay Area police chief and his thug friend. Both are teens and most likely apolitical; there is NO indication they are Trump supporters, as you claim. If you have additional information, please share it.

Surjit Singh Malhi was attacked in Stanislaus County by two teens while he was putting out campaign signs for a GOP Congressman. If they were triggered by Trump's words then they are a special kind of stupid. There is no indication their attack was politically motivated or they have any political affiliations.

Give it another try but, frankly, I'm already bored with the false information and "what abouts" that you guys are peddling. Your arguments are emotional rather than based on facts. The personal insults are a big giveaway that you have nothing. The left is instigating violence and in the case of Rudy Peters, as far as I have seen, only Eric Swalwell has condemned the attack. This hasn't even been reported on national news.

Bye bye.

No one on the Left, no Democrat or Liberal have come out against or condemned the actions of this latest attack, or on the actions of Antifa (oxymoron), or Maxine Waters hateful rhetoric. Even Hollywood has gotten into the act by using hateful and violent language directed at President Trump. These acts and rhetorical spewing are a product of a people and a party that failed to keep power, particularly when they felt the ‘fix’ was in. I fear it will increase as more and more details come out and expose President Obama as central to this coup, and as more investigations begin targeting all those Democrats that were a part of the most devious plot in American history.

Pretty hard for Trump supporters to try to convince people that Trump is being unfairly treated when pretty much the whole country knows that he is a habitual liar, an unrivaled narcissist, shockingly immature, extremely self-centered and petty, totally incompetent, and has the attention span of a small chipmunk. Oh, and here’s a pretty stunning fact: about half the country believes that Trump should be impeached.

Of all the American billionaire businessmen in the country, this is the best that the Republican Party could find?

Trump is terrible and all of the things said above. The only thing that could be worse is Hillary.

People need to stop inferring and talking for, what they believe, ALL the people think. You missed that boat with the election of Trump. Hate him, love, like him, there was a revolution in this country exhibited by his overcoming all the odds and getting elected. And stop with crying that the election was stolen or that Hillary won by the popular vote. Nietzsche said that ‘a man’s worth was determined by how much truth he could tolerate.’ It’s time to wake up and take notice to what has occurred in this country by people in government who thought we elected them to run this country, specifically those within the FBI, DOJ, and CIA. The truth is growing: what is your worth?

@Jake Waters :”Nietzsche said that ‘a man’s worth was determined by how much truth he could tolerate.’ ....what is your worth?”

What is Trump’s worth?

“Trump falsely claims nearly 3,000 Americans in Puerto Rico 'did not die'”

Donald Trump: “"3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico.”

Donald Trump: “"This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!"”

Let's see if I have this straight: I whack job assaults somebody and that is a Dem/GOP thing?

Trump says 2,975 didn't die in PR because Dems want to make him look bad (a child could do that...hourly).

Really?

You guys crack me up.

Doug/SHale,

It's not really hard to understand the cause of the deaths in PR.

There are those deaths attributable to the actual natural disaster as it is happening, ex., not leaving your domicile after being told to evacuate, and eventually drowning due to storm surge or getting whacked by flying debris; there are deaths caused by the after effects of the hurricane ex., electricity is out and the stop lights don't work and people start getting into crashes or hospitals don't have additional power sources and people start dying due to lack of critical care units; and finally there are normal death rate occurrences, ex., old age, sickness, falling off a ladder...etc.

Since the first two examples ALWAYS happen during and after a hurricane, there is NO WAY that these are the fault of Trump. The response of the administration was timely and the supplies we gave were basically unlimited. IT is not Trumps fault that PR cannot take care of its own electricity infrastructure. It is not Trumps fault that PR cannot even distribute drinking water to its people in the midst of an emergency.

The deaths are singularly attributable to the corrupt politician - MOSTLY DEMOCRATS - of PUERTO RICO.

I remember Katrina. I remember how Bush was pilloried for that disaster even though it eventually came out that it was in fact the DEMOCRAT Governor of Louisiana and DEMOCRAT Mayor of New Orleans who were at fault for the slow response. Notice how Mississippi, equally hit hard, never had the problems that they had and you know why? Because leadership there was Republican and prepared.

Notice how the democrats have to bring up PR just before this election? They must know something about the recent polling before November and they're throwing everything into the smear bucket against Trump.

They're scared, and we know it.

Wait until Trump declassifies all FISA warrants and related information regarding the FBI/DOJ/State departments.

You 'ain't seen nothing yet.

Winning and liberal tears.

@DKHSK :"Doug/SHale, It's not really hard to understand the cause of the deaths in PR."

No, Dan. You missed the point. The matter raised here was not the assignment of blame for the deaths. That's a separate topic. The matter raised here is the fact that TRUMP DENIES THAT THE 3000 DEATHS OF AMERICANS IN PUERTO RICO DUE TO HURRICANE MARIA EVEN HAPPENED (!!!).

From your post, you sound like you at least accept the fact that large number of deaths did occur in Puerto Rico due to Maria. Good for you. You're still in touch with reality. But that places you at odds with Donald Trump who, from his twitter posts, seems to believe that there were less than about 2 dozen deaths there due to Maria and that reports of around 3000 deaths was "done by the Democrats". This is a President who lives in an alternate reality of his own imagination.

Yes! Let's trust the Puerto Rican government: Web Link

Doug,

I'm not quibbling about the deaths. I'm sick of the deaths (any death, really) being politicized by the democrats.

EVERYTHING is being politicized by you guys. Look at the frickin' NFL. Your side, through idiots like the former quarterback have taken up a cause that has ruined traditional Sunday viewing. And why? Because none of you can look at simple statistics and realize that what is being protested, isn't true AT ALL.

It's ALL POLITICS ALL THE TIME.

Your side, the DEMOCRATS, have attempted assassinations on the republicans, hounded republicans out of public establishments, and generally screamed in our faces.

And for what? Because Trump, a Republican, beat a corrupt Democrat.

Guess what, keep getting more shrill. Already the makeup of the Judiciary is changing and there is no end in sight. When Ruth Bader Ginsberg kicks the bucket, we'll have the supreme court locked up for 30 YEARS! and the district courts are already changing as we speak.

Soon, with a little luck we'll hold both houses of congress and start real reform. And finally, when the goods are dropped on the illegal spying on the Trump campaign, the bureaucracy and prior administration will be brought to justice.

The economy is ROARING because of the new trade agreements, the stock market is flying, black and hispanic unemployment at there lowest point EVER, and generally the mood of the country is at its highest point in decades, yet here we are, discussing who's at fault for a natural disaster over 1 year ago.

So keep it up...keep biting at our ankles. It just makes us go harder and treat you with even more contempt and disdain then you would otherwise deserve.

Winning.

@DKHSK,

Both sides politicize everything. It is ridiculous. And Trump is profoundly ignorant, but I can see why he was elected. Some people would rather be lied to by Trump than lied to by establishment politicians. Hillary was a horrible candidate.

1.) Roaring economy
2.) Fair/er trade policies
3.) Tougher Middle east policies
4.) Tax cuts
5.) Less regulation
6,) Greater healthcare choices while gutting ACA
7.) Lowest unemployment rate in years
8.) Able to create Hurricanes (Thanks Washington Post -- snicker!)

What ELSE do you want BobB?

Dan

Notice how eerily silent every single democrat liberal on this thread has been regarding assassination attempts and assaults on republicans?

Why?

BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT, AND WHO THEY ARE!

You wanted war, you got war.

His name is Trump and he brings his MAGA cadre with him.

Winning never tasted so good.

Wow, this is what you all feel compelled to comment about? And I thought I spent too much time on the Internet. Has anyone no shame anymore?

Uh, oh, DKHSK. Looks like most people think that Trump is unfit for office even though the economy is surging. Unbelievable! How is that even possible? In the words of White House Chief of Staff John Kelly, it’s like “We’re in Crazyland!”.

“Two new polls show President Donald Trump's job approval rating has fallen below 40 percent – including one that shows a majority believe he is unfit for the office – as the beleaguered president defends against reports of a White House in chaos, even as the American economy surges.”

“A CNN poll released Monday found Trump's approval had dropped to 36 percent, down from 42 percent in August. And the same day, a poll from Quinnipiac University found Trump's approval at 38 percent, down from 41 percent the month before.”

“The Quinnipiac poll also found that 55 percent of Americans believe Trump is not fit to serve as president, while 41 percent said he is capable. Sixty-five percent said the president is not level-headed and 42 percent said he is not mentally stable.”
USA Today :Web Link
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but but but among GOP and Trump cheerleaders (the sr cheerleader is right here in this forum) Trump still has 80+% approval rating.

However, Trump is losing (or lost) the independent voters, who also are the swing votes. You know, moderates?

House will most likely flip to Dems and now even a smallish chance the senate could flip as well. Wanna see Trump's head totally explode? Deal maker my arse.

STILL WAITING for SHale, Doug, and now Grumpy to tell us why they hate all the Trump policy achievements I outlined above and to denounce the left wing violence being committed against the right.

Instead, we get POLLS!

Yep, polls like Hillary having a 93% chance of winning the election.

-snicker-

Winning.

@DKHSK,

Don't focus on perceived policies or accomplishments. Focus on the tweets. Focus on the utterances. That's Trump.

BobB,

"Don't focus on perceived policies or accomplishments. Focus on the tweets. Focus on the utterances. That's Trump."

Ok...I'll focus on things that don't impact my life whatsoever.

Good advice.

/s

@DKHSK,

You don't follow the president on Twitter? But this is historic. When in the history of the United States could you ever get the unfiltered opinion of the president delivered straight to you in real time. It is really amazing. And more than a little unsettling. In all seriousness, it does affect all of us. What the president says matters.

Regarding your list, any of the conventional Republicans would have gotten you most of that.

I tried to find independent reporting.

1.) Roaring economy (it was already roaring) Web Link
2.) Fair/er trade policies (are they?) Web Link
3.) Tougher Middle east policies (not clear this has helped) Web Link
4.) Tax cuts (hmmmmmm) Web Link

5. Less regulation (maybe?) Web Link
6,) Greater healthcare choices while gutting ACA (while costs increase) Web Link
7.) Lowest unemployment rate in years (steady decline for years) Web Link )
8.) Able to create Hurricanes (Thanks Washington Post -- snicker!)
(Harrrh!)

You can provide data to support your claims; otherwise the claims are meaningless.

BobB,

"You don't follow the president on Twitter?"

As a rule, no. Occasionally I'll check in but I'm not persuaded by his marketing, only his results. He's saying everything to keep YOU off balance and away from his real agenda.

Want proof? Tell me about what's happened/happening at the FBI and DoJ with regards to FISA abuse?

99% of the public has no idea whats going on behind closed doors and that is exactly the way Trump wants it. For the first time in recent memory, a President and his administration are not telegraphing their punches and it has people like you and the democrats crazy.

Trumps use of Twitter is a Trojan horse, and YOU are falling for it.

"Regarding your list, any of the conventional Republicans would have gotten you most of that."

Trump is NOT a "conventional republican". And no, I don't agree with this.

Trump is a fighter. He does not allow anyone to do or say anything to him without fighting back. Most of we Americans (basically republicans) used to believe that we have to be polite in the face of the gorillas of the left harassing us.

Not anymore.

They wanted incivility and now they have it.

Welcome to the new rules. You won't like them played back on you.

The GOP congressional cowards say they like Trump's 'policies' and they ignore his twitter feed. Very, very convenient. Or 'stick ones head in the sand'.

If the House flips and/or the senate flips; Trump is in deep deep trouble. His head will explode at the first veto override. (and no, I don't think there is anything to impeach him on.....yet).

A roaring economy and still a minority approval rating.

His base got the exact President they wanted. A baboon. His base and the lead cheerleader here LOVE Trump and anything he does (lie constantly) are just ignored.

And those who don't follow his twitter rants, well y'all opinions really don't matter.

@SHale :"A roaring economy and still a minority approval rating. "

I don't think that DKHSK has yet caught onto the fact that it's really, really bad if a President has a dismal approval rating DESPITE the fact that the economy is roaring.

Yet the economy was in the tank and the approval rating low for the last President. That was totally OK as long as the progressive socialist liberals were in 'charge', so to speak.

Kathleen,

Try these:

1.) Roaring economy (it was already roaring): Let's hear what the EX-President had to say about the potential of Trumps economy, shall we? : Web Link

Obama: Trump would need a "magic wand" to get to 4% GDP eh? LOL!!! Trump will be at 4.2%

2.) Fair/er trade policies (are they?): Yes...they are: Web Link
3.) Tougher Middle east policies: Independent, REALLY. ARAB? Try this one: Web Link

Bet you didn't know that we engaged and wiped out a battalion of the Russian military in Syria back in February, did you?

4.) Tax cuts (hmmmmmm): Web Link

See next....

con't,

5. Less regulation "(maybe?)": Wrong: Web Link
6,) Greater healthcare choices while gutting ACA (while costs increase): This wasn't about cost increase but choice, but yes, look at the time frame you posted and you'll see that the past cost increase RATE got wider right about the time that ACA was voted into existence. We won't talk about THAT will we? Anyway, I was talking about healthcare choice so here is your link: Web Link
7.) Lowest unemployment rate in years (steady decline for years): So what! : Web Link
8.) Able to create Hurricanes (Thanks Washington Post -- snicker!): I guess when you can find fault in someone for creating a cat-5 hurricane, you can credit same for reducing the hurricane to a cat-1 at least! LOL. Liberals are so gullible.

(Harrrh!) Indeed.

Thanks for playing.

@Ben J,

"Economy in the tank?". The economy was in great shape in 2016. What are you talking about? Scroll up and look at the link from KR.

Reagan- Hitler
Bush Sr - Hitler
Bush Jr - Hitler, McChimpy
McCain - Hitler
Romney - Hitler
Trump - Hitler, Baboon

When everyone is Hitler, nobody is Hitler.

You guys have yet to figure out that name-calling 'ain't what it used to be.

BobB,

You're right, it was in great shape in 2016...and it is much better now...

...and you Democrats can't stand it.

Here's a thought experiment for some of you suggesting that the economy is only good because of Obama.

Answer this: If the economy took a nose dive on Monday, would you still say that it was Obama's economy?

-snicker-

I think I know the answer.

The economy is better now, I'm not denying it.

@DKHSK,

Were did you get the idea that I a Democrat? I'm not.

BobB,


I assumed and I apologize for labeling you as such.

Dan

Good and evil are fighting and good is winning and evil cannot stand it. Good always wins.

Dan, just one thing, the data shows Obama had more than one +4. Get back to me of Trump hits the same or more.

Kathleen,

I provide you with data that goes against your preconceived notions and yet again, you move the goal posts.

You're a fun one.

Dan

You are jumping up and down celebrating one quarter. That’s your problem, not mine.

Kathleen,

Let me get this straight: now you're only solely focussed on GDP instead of the range of activity I gave and to which you commented?

Again I ask (now you specifically): if you're so convinced that his success is due to something or someone else, then so too is his failure, right?

Dan

@DKHSK :”Kathleen, I provide you with data that goes against your preconceived notions and yet again, you move the goal posts.”

Oh, boy. Excuse me, Kathleen. Time to school Dan again. No, Dan, Kathleen didn’t move any goal posts. In fact, achieving an average annual GDP growth of 4% is a campaign promise that Donald Trump himself made. In the approximately year and a half that Trump has been in office, he has consistently FAILED to deliver on that promise. Instead, up until the latest quarter, the quarterly annualized growth rates thus far for Trump have been 1.8%, 3.0%, 2.8%, 2.3%, and 2.2%. To translate that into simple terms that you can understand, that would be FAIL, FAIL, FAIL, FAIL, AND FAIL. Including the latest 4.2% quarterly growth rate, the average GDP annual growth rate thus far into Trump’s presidency has been about 2.7%, which falls way short of his promised 4% growth rate.


“Trump’s 4% Growth Promise”
BusinessInsider : Web Link
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Dan,
It’s about the data, not a comment.
Your link on regulations . . .The Hill . . . Mostly say he’s failed.
For your Arab comment—it’s not a US perspective or bias. And IF we killed Russians, how exactly is that a good thing?
If healthcare costs keep rising it isn’t about choices for most.
“So what” isn’t much of a rebuttal.
It’s Mother Nature.

I’ll look at rest later.

Thanks Doug!

Doug,

For crying out loud this is what he said:

"We will double our growth and have the strongest economy anywhere in the world." Grow the nation's economy by at least 4 percent per year, although Trump has also suggested he will boost growth to at least 6 percent per year - if not much higher."

It takes time to double the economy, as any two-bit economist would tell you. Regardless, he's done exactly what he's said.

Please...go out and get some fresh air, you're just making a fool of yourself.

Katheleen,

You ARE aware that the Russians are fighting in the middle east for Syria, right? You DO understand the significance of wiping out a whole battalion, right?

My point is, that Trump's policy towards the Middle East is diametric from Obamas and it is bearing fruit.

Want another data point? How many attacks have the Iran Navy attempted towards the US NAVY since Trump has been in office? A grand total of 14 since he fully took office and 0 in 2018 so far. How many in the two years prior to Trump: 58. Thanks Obama...nice show of being weak.

Or maybe we can attribute the low number to Obamas policies since that what you want to do for everything else? -snicker-

My point is, things have changed for the better, but you Democrats and liberals refuse to see it.

Weak.

And one of your "independent" sources for the Middle East was from a publication called "ARAB"?

"Independent"

Dan, I’m not defending Obama. Read The Economist then. Maybe the navy moved their ships? Killing battalions of people is a shi**y solution and nothing to brag about in any case. And stop trying to pigeon hole others viewpoints. You know, cuz otherwise I could say you maybe are, say, just a contrarian or intractable.

"Killing battalions of people is a shi**y solution and nothing to brag about in any case."

The Russians were attacking a 40 man platoon...the US military told them to stop and they didn't.

Suffice to say, the Russians will not be attacking our military any longer.

I guess talking did us really well in the past, no?

Maybe you should read up on what's happening and then comment?

And you can call me whatever you like; "Contrarian", "intractable"..."--shole", I just don't care.

I know what I am and I back up everything I say.

And you know what? I do the one thing that I RARELY see in any topic on this site: I apologize when I'm wrong.

Just look upthread.

“Suffice to say, the Russians will not be attacking our military any longer.”

Sure? They’re just attacking our country instead.

I apologize when I should. So do others. That’s just good manners.

"Sure? They’re just attacking our country instead."

Yep, and it all happened under the Obama administration and guess what?

THEY DIDN'T LIFT A FINGER TO PREVENT IT!: Web Link

Now please...stop with peppy quips and do a little research first before engaging on these issues.

Dan

Not defending Obama, and Russian interference continues. Trump reveres Putin, hoped to have his help in the campaign, denied Russia’s involvement here and abroad, tried the “oops I meant to say wouldn’t . . . twice”, and is still under investigation with a goodly number of his “outstanding” men taking plea deals. And despite reluctant sanctions, the interference continues two years later.

Try broadening your own research.

Kathleen,

You really have no understanding of what's going on right now, do you?

You realize that NOBODY connected to Trump has had any indictment or conviction related to Trump or his campaign, right?

Your "Russia. Russia, Russia" screed is totally baseless and as such, I won't even spend the 5 minutes to prove you wrong.

Look up the info yourself, you seem to be good at linking "independent" sources.

"Trump reveres Putin".

So he wipes out a whole battalion of his military.

Sure Kathleen...sure.

Trump has put more sanctions on Russia than Obama did. Remember Crimea. You may not like Trump but one can only imagine the chaos under Hillary.

@DKHSK :”You realize that NOBODY connected to Trump has had any indictment or conviction related to Trump or his campaign, right?“

OMG. DKHSK has gone off the deep end.

@DKHSK :”So he wipes out a whole battalion of his military.”

Trump didn’t have anything to do with the US troops in Syria defending themselves against an attack by Russian mercenaries. US troops in such situations have standing orders that they are permitted to defend themselves against armed attacks. Has absolutely nothing to do with who happens to be President.

The only people who have gone off the deep end are the TDS kool aid drinkers.

@Bill :”Remember Crimea”

Yeah, the Russians wouldn’t have dared to annex Crimea if Trump had been in office. Trump wouldn’t have stood for that. Yeah, right.

“Trump Told G7 Leaders That Crimea Is Russian Because Everyone Speaks Russian In Crimea”
Buzzfeed: Web Link
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Did not say Trump would have stopped the Crimea annexation, said Obama did not. That is the fact along with more sanctions than Obama on Russia. Facts not implication. Trump is awful but Hillary? Who knows certainly not the TDS crowd.

@Bill: "Did not say Trump would have stopped the Crimea annexation, said Obama did not. That is the fact along with more sanctions than Obama on Russia."

Uh, huh. So you think that Trump was leading the efforts in his administration to sanction Russia rather than trying to block his own administration's efforts, do you?

"Trump just blocked his own administration’s Russia sanctions"

"It appears that President Trump just blocked his own administration’s plan to sanction Russia.

"...The sanctions were explicitly focused on Russian companies that deal in equipment linked to Assad’s chemical weapons program. But just a day later, the White House backtracked, with press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders saying that the administration was merely “considering additional sanctions on Russia” and that “a decision will be made in the near future.” So why the awkward reversal? Apparently Trump wasn’t on board with sanctioning Russia."

"...This isn’t the first time Trump has seemed to be at odds with or out of touch with the way the rest of his administration is handling Russia policy. Trump was reportedly furious that his administration ended up expelling 60 Russian diplomats in response to the poisoning of Russian ex-spy Sergei Skripal on British soil on March 4."
Vox: Web Link
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"Uh, huh. So you think that Trump was leading the efforts in his administration to sanction Russia rather than trying to block his own administration's efforts, do you?"

Trump IS the administration!

Nobody is higher in the Federal Government than Trump. He is the Chief Executive. Nothing happens unless he says so.

As long as he carries out his duties according to the constitution, he can do any darned thing he wants.

My God, read up on US civics, Doug!

"Russian mercenaries"

Russian 'ghost' soldiers.

Look it up, Doug.

"US troops in such situations have standing orders that they are permitted to defend themselves against armed attacks. Has absolutely nothing to do with who happens to be President."

Yes, NOW they do.

In past administrations, EVERYTHING went to political civilians. Decisions were made based on the politics of the day. This was especially the case during Obama's failed administration when Iran was attacking our Navy. And remember that "red line" Obama drew in Syria? What happened there? Oh, and what about the warning he gave the Russians if they invade Crimea?

What's that you say? Crickets?

There is a new sheriff in town. The Rules of Engagement have been pushed back to the professionals in the Military to make the decisions on the field.

Refreshing...'ain't it?

“You realize that NOBODY connected to Trump has had any indictment or conviction related to Trump or his campaign, right? ”

So Manafort is cooperating because he has nothing to offer Mueller. Come on Dan. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

"So Manafort is cooperating because he has nothing to offer Mueller. Come on Dan. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."

That makes no sense whatsoever...

All I'll say is keep your eye on Greg Craig, former White House personal Attorney to Obama, and Tony Podesta, the brother of Clinton campaign manager John Podesta and the head of The Podesta Group.

Go ahead and look up their connections to Manafort and know that who he might be cooperating about, might not be Trump at all.

Happy researching.

@Kathleen

DKHSK may be trying to argue that someone like Manafort's conviction was not "related" to Trump or his campaign because the bank and tax fraud crimes of Manafort had nothing to due with Trump. That may be true (although of course all the details of Manafort's case have yet to come out). However, DKHSK ignores the cases of Papadopoulos, Flynn, and Gates, all of whom pled guilty of crimes directly related to the Trump campaign.

TDS is a running amok in the Pleasanton Weekly.

LOL!

"DKHSK may be trying to argue that someone like Manafort's conviction was not "related" to Trump or his campaign because the bank and tax fraud crimes of Manafort had nothing to due with Trump."

I'm not arguing any such thing. The courts and related documents are all saying that that Manaforts conviction is not based on anything related to Trump.

"That may be true"

Oh...never mind.

"(although of course all the details of Manafort's case have yet to come out). "

Which ones, the ones he's been convicted on a couple weeks ago, or the ones he's currently being tried on?

"DKHSK ignores the cases of Papadopoulos, Flynn, and Gates, all of whom pled guilty of crimes directly related to the Trump campaign."

NONE pled guilty to any crimes related to Trump.

You're simply making things up, and comically so...

Bill,

It most certainly is...

Much prefer LWT. We just have to wait. If it isn’t Trump at all (possible), it will blow close enough to mess that “do”. I’m thinking he will be the most amazed of us all.

@DKHSK :”Papadopoulos, Flynn, and Gates... NONE pled guilty to any crimes related to Trump.”

Nope. False. Totally wrong. Of course, we all know that you will steadfastly refuse to believe any evidence to the contrary so I’m not going to waste my time trying to convince you, but Kathleen and anyone else interested in how deeply involved the Trump campaign is in all of this can look up the cases of Papadopoulos, Flynn, and Gates for themselves.

Doug,

Pap was convicted of lying to the FBI over his visit with Misfud.

Flynn also pled guilty to lying to the FBI by stating he did not talk to the Russian ambassador. Ironically he has yet been sentence and to date, this has been held off more than 125 days. Care to guess why?

Gates pled guilty to Fraud-related charges unrelated to Trump and turned against Manafort in his first trial.

And....

Manafort was found quilty of fraud-related charges having nothing to do with Trump and occurring way before 2013 and his relationship with the Trump campaign.

In all these case, NONE were tied to Trump. Lying to the FBI is not the same as the fictitious "collusion".

Get a life.

Kathleen,

"We just have to wait."

Yeah, you do that.

"If it isn’t Trump at all (possible), it will blow close enough to mess that “do”."

I cannot wait until Trump releases the FISA's in the coming weeks. And I can't wait until Nunez releases all the interviews his sub-committee took.

I'll be right here on PW waiting to capture the tears that are sure to follow.

Until then folks...

CDC has put our a warning on TDS. Some cases are terminal. Looks like a few on PW are approaching that level.

It is kind of amusing that Donald Trump is the president of the United States of America. Leader of the free world. He sure is different from all the other ones, that's for sure.

“CDC has put our a warning on TDS”

Never understood why Trump supporters thought that coining thr term “Trunp Derangement Syndrome” was a wise one. After all, the natural meaning of “Trump Derangement Syndrome” is “symptoms that Trump is deranged”. The fact that about half the country believes that Trump is mentally ill only reinforces that interpretation of the term TDS. Just amazing that Trump supporters want to make an issue of mental illness or “derangement”. Do you Trump supporters not realize that about half the country thinks that Trump has a few screws loose? “Trump Derangement Syndrome”, indeed.

"He sure is different from all the other ones, that's for sure."

That's true. He's effective and successful and doesn't care what anybody thinks about him.

Half the country does not want him to succeed.

Imagine that...

Yeah Doug...that CRAZY Trump beat Hillary Clinton for the Presidency...

Explain how THAT happened.

LOL!

"We won" - Barack H Obama.

TDS. Nice try on the spin. Does not work. TDS is rampant, keep drinking the kool aid.

“ . . . and doesn't care what anybody thinks about him.“ That is all he cares about

How he won: electoral college—not the will of the people—by millions.

TDS again. Electoral college is all that counts. Don't want nut case states like California and New York running the show. California would have swung the election if not for electoral college. TDS runs rampant in California.

Just stating a fact Bill.

Its called "fighting back" Kathleen. Notice that Trump never starts the fight, he just finishes them.

Your side's gone on for so long with republicans not fighting that you can't believe that one is now giving it back and winning.

I've done the same thing here...

Ah yes, the whole "she won the popular vote" b.s.

She won by the margin in California. Why won't the blue states allow an audit of their votes?

We all know why.

Winning.

He starts fights Dan—many to distract from investigations, firing people, and anything else negative about him in the media (covfefe). Exactly what is my side? Not bs; just a fact. Are red states allowing audits? You know about the last guy spouting “winning”, right?

TDS?

Trump Derangement Syndrome. Web Link

Not sure why Bill uses it to point at those who are disenchanted with the man.

"He starts fights Dan"

Since you made the accusation, how about giving us some examples?

The craps the Democrats have done confirmed the Ameicans voted right. No more Clinton, Pelosi, Boxer, Feinstein, Obama, Swalwell! Michelle Obama is coming out with her book. if she and Barak Hussein are for the people of American, why don't they post their books free on the Internet (so not the entices can afford to pay for her boom). Barack Hussein please speak free of charge, so not only the elites can afford to pay those $10 to 100K speaking events. Enough of these self serving DemocRats!!!! Hypocrites!

Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan, Lindsay Graham, Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, Ted Cruz, Rosie O’Donnell, George Will, Barack Obama, Angela Merkel, Vicente Fox, CNN, The New York Times, MSNBC, The Washington Post, Obama, Heidi Cruz, belittling John McCain’s war service, the Pope (re Mexico). The Freedom Caucus (millions of Freedom Caucus supporters are Trump supporters). “This is no attack on a common foe but an attack on a friend.” The Gold Star families of La David Johnson and Humayad Khan. South Korea, China, Mexico, Canada, NATO, Iran, Turkey.

The man loves attention, positive or negative; can’t be presidential and even mocked being presidential. He is an embarrassment to this country around the world.

Kathleen,

Lot's of names, but no examples of what was actually said or context? tsk tsk...

And Gold Star families? Recall that he was attacked first by the Father. Shall I give you a link so that you can own up?

And the widow; couldn’t look at a piece of paper to recall Johnson’s name? The pope regarding the wall? The Freedom Caucus, who supports him? Life is too short to print every tweet or executive order or rally Trump makes/signs/attends. I don’t need to enlighten you; you know.

You can champion your man. Your choice. Recognize who he is, though, and for what he is. I certainly do.

@DKHSK :"And Gold Star families? Recall that he was attacked first by the Father....."

Uhhhh...actually, Trump started that by attacking and questioning the patriotism of all Muslim-Americans through his immigration policy which targeted certain prospective immigrants for no other reason than that they may practice a certain religion.

You make it sound like Trump was happily minding his own business when all of a sudden a Gold Star father attacked him for no reason at all.

Appears that Trump isn't the only person who suffers from "Trump Derangement Syndrome".

Doug and Kathleen have a serious case of apoplectic hatred of Trump or TDS. No cure. Good luck.

@Doc

Looks like we have plenty of company:

Secretary of State Tillerson: Trump is a “moron”.
National Security Advisor McMaster: Trump has the “intellect of a kindergartner”.
Chief Economic Advisor Cohn : Trump is as “dumb as s-“.
Defense Secretary Mattis: Trump has the understanding of a “fifth or sixth grader”.
Chief of Staff Kelly: “He’s (Trump) an idiot. It’s pointless to try to convince him of anything. He’s gone off the rails. We’re in Crazytown. I don’t even know why any of us are here.”

- - -

Remember: Trump only hires “the best”.
MAGA!

Obama's birth certificate?

Trump releasing key documentation regarding the Russia/FISA investigation: Web Link

LOL!

I just told you that this was going to happen.

You liberals have to ask yourself: Why would a President, who half the country thinks is guilty of collusion with Russia, release documents in his own investigation?

You've been played by your leadership kids, and we've been telling you this for a long time.

Now it is time to pay the piper...

Doc, you are misusing TDS. "Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their love of Donald Trump, to the point they will abandon all logic and reason."

So Dan, pigeon holes again. You realize that people on both sides of the aisle are not supporting this man. It isn't liberals vs conservatives or any particular political bent--there are people of all convictions worried about his "leadership".

Pay what piper? Trump has selected only some documents, but I'm going to support the truth when Mueller files his report, whatever that truth may be. No matter where those chips fall, it won't make Trump a better president, and he certainly will not be a better man.

Kathleen,

You, and others like you STILL don't understand how you got Trump.

We are TIRED of politics as usual from Democrats and Republicans. We didn't elect someone to get along with the political parties, we elected him to get stuff done.

What you see as a bug, we see as a feature.

Politics will never be the same. It's as simple as that.

Oh, you assume I like politics as usual? Not at all.

He isn’t the answer; he’s made the swamp dirtier; he’s drained nothing. He’s a feature in the same way as a light at the end of a tunnel — more of a warning for the future I think.

Draining the swamp.

List of high level FBI and DoJ officials fired or resigned under Trump:

FBI Departures:

James Comey, director (fired)
Andrew McCabe, deputy director (fired)
Peter Strzok, counterintelligence expert (fired)
Lisa Page, attorney (demoted; resigned)
James Rybicki, chief of staff (resigned)
James Baker, general counsel (resigned)
Mike Kortan, assistant director for public affairs (resigned)
Josh Campbell, special assistant to James Comey (resigned)
James Turgal, executive assistant director (resigned)
Greg Bower, assistant director for office of congressional affairs (resigned)
Michael Steinbach, executive assistant director (resigned)
John Giacalone, executive assistant director (resigned)

DOJ Departures:

Sally Yates, deputy attorney general (fired)
Bruce Ohr, associate deputy attorney general (twice demoted)
David Laufman, counterintelligence chief (resigned)
Rachel Brand, deputy attorney general (resigned)
Trisha Beth Anderson, office of legal counsel for FBI (demoted or reassigned*)
John P. Carlin, assistant attorney general (resigned)
Peter Kadzik, assistant attorney general, congressional liaison (resigned)
Mary McCord, acting assistant attorney general (resigned)
Matthew Axelrod, principal assistant to deputy attorney general (resigned)
Preet Bharara, U.S. attorney, SDNY (fired along with 45 other U.S. Attorneys)
Sharon McGowan, civil rights division (resigned)
Diana Flynn, litigation director for LGBTQ civil rights (resigned)
Vanita Gupta, civil rights division (resigned)
Joel McElvain, assistant branch director of the civil division (resigned)


These weren't just office level personnel, they were executives. And here's a little secret, most on this list are being investigated for crimes related to the investigation of Trump.

And Trump just declassified the top 4 FBI execs texts today.

Hasn't been draining the swamp indeed...

You really need to up your game.

p.s. did you ever wonder if Mueller was investigating Trump, or investigating criminals around Trump at the request of Trump?

Hmmmm...wouldn't that be interesting to know?

Wrong again Kathleen: Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a neologism used by its adherents to describe a reaction to United States President Donald Trump by liberals, progressives, and anti-Trump conservatives, who are said to respond to Trump's statements and political actions irrationally and with little regard to Trump's actual position or action taken

@Doc

Given the fact that about half of all Americans think that Trump is mentally unstable, how could the term “Trump Derangement Syndrome” be understood as anything else other than “symptoms that Trump is deranged”? Serious question.

TDS is also diagnosed when a person has a lack of analytical ability. Trump is awful but Hillary would be worse.

Bill, we can agree, perhaps, that both candidates were a lousy vote.

Doc, I quoted the definition of TDS.

Dan,

Michael Flynn
Katie Walsh
KT McFarland
Vivek Murthy
Angella Reid
Michael Dubke
Tera Dahl
Walter Shaub
Mark Corallo
Sean Spicer
Rich Higgins
Michael Short
Derek Harvey
Reince Priebus
Anthony Scaramucci
George Gigicos
Ezra Cohen Watnick
Steve Bannon
Carl Icahn
Sebastian Gorka
Keith Schiller
Tom Price
George Sifakis
Rick Dearborn
Jeremy Katz
Dina Powell
Omoros M. Newman
Andrew McCabe
Taylor Weyeneth
Brenda Fitzgeral
Rob Porter
David Sorensen
Gary Cohn
John Feeley
John McEntee
Rex Tillerson
John Dowd
Josh Raffel
David Shulkin
Hope Hicks
HR McMaster
Michael Anton
Tom Bossert
Nadia Schadlow
Ty Cobb
Tom Hornan
Scott Pruitt
Joe Hagin
13 Russian nations and three related companies
12 Russian intellegence officers
Konstantin Kilimnik

Chief of Staff? Attorney General? Son(s)? Son-in-law?

Kathleen,

I'm waiting for your point? In my capacity as an executive I've had to fire people too.

Trump is new to politics. He has no idea the character of any of the former players in his office, since most have been involved in politics their whole lives.

And please, the last three on your long list won't come to trial and are part of the Mueller investigation.

"Chief of Staff? Attorney General? Son(s)? Son-in-law?"

LOL! Care to place a bet on these?

"Lousy vote"

Perhaps anyone here will do a side-by-side comparison of all the policy achievements and fulfilled campaign promises of the previous 5 presidents within the first 2 years in office?

I'll wait...

You can't accept effectiveness because of political party.

Plain and simple.

Wrong Dan. I'm a registered Republican--it's the man. And as you said to me, you raised the issue. Go for it, do the side-by-side.

Wrong again Kathleen. I quoted the meaning of TDS.

Here's what I loath about the current political class (but mainly democrats and squishy RINO's like Kathleen).

They say they have docs/evidence that Trump colluded with Russia but that we can't see them because they are classified.

Trump says "ok, I'm going to de-classify the docs/evidence"

Now those same democrats and RINOS oppose it because they're classified and might expose investigative techniques.

You can't make this up...

Ok Kathleen, I just might. But then you'll just whine and say "I still don't like him because he has a potty mouth".

So typical.

Doc, not wrong. Apparently a different quote. One that doesn’t ring true.

Dan, lets be clear he declassified documents favorable to him only. But I already said I’ll wait for the report and the chips can fall where they may.

Stop with the name calling and assumptions about others. It only makes you look like you can’t present any cogent information.

I don’t care for Trump for many reasons; a potty mouth would be far down on the list.

Perhaps it is my quote that rings true and not yours Kathleen. I used Wikipedia, a favorite source for progressives, liberals, socialists and the like.

@Doc

Yup, Doc. Nothing rings truer than a supporter of a guy who half the country thinks is nuts trying to tell others that they're the ones who are "deranged".

Kathleen,

In this instance "favorable" docs = Innocence.

When your chips fall, I'll be there to collect them.

"Stop with the name calling and assumptions about others. It only makes you look like you can’t present any cogent information. "

Name calling? Cogent information?

Still waiting for the take down of my links that you promised earlier.

You attempt to classify who I am as well as others. Actions of someone trying to divert discussion or to present any real information or facts. Not to mention it's unnecessary and mostly a weenie move.

Tax cuts: Web Link
Web Link

Fair trade: Web Link
Web Link

Harley Davidson, Mid Continental Nail, cars, jeans, peanut butter, cranberries, soy--the list will grow; consumers will be impacted.

Done with you Dan.

Done with Hillary and you Kathleen and also Doug. Totally analytically incoherent all three of you. Good day and good night.

Ouch..you said "weenie".

Good.

@Bill

Supporting someone as mentally wacky and unhinged as Donald Trump while at the same time criticizing others for being “analytically incoherent” just doesn’t work. Sorry. It does make for a big laugh and great entertainment, though, so thanks for that.

He will go down as a great President. The only place he is unpopular is California and New York. That should say something right there.

@Donald,

Trump is also unpopular in Oregon, Washington, Hawaii, Colorado, New Mexico, Minnesota, Illinois, Virginia, New Jersey, Maryland, DC, Vermont, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, New Hampshire, and Rhode Island.

Your making my point all crummy states with no morals and believe in killing their own children.....sad. Good and evil playing out in front of us and good is winning. BonB you are in the evil side of your confused.

@Donald,

Okay, you're kidding right?

Using "your" instead of "you're" all over the place and changing your story, saying "evil", and using nonstandard grammar...

You are making fun of Trump voters?

DKHSK, will you be my best friend??!!

@Outnumbered

You're in luck. Not only will you be his best friend. You'll also be his only friend.