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Lawsuit threats table hillside protection ordinance indefinitely

Original post made on Jun 7, 2013

Years of effort to restrict residential and commercial development on Pleasanton hillsides ground to a halt again Tuesday after the Pleasanton City Council, faced with threats of lawsuits by attorneys from Oakland and San Francisco over Measure PP that was approved by voters in 2008, tabled any further consideration of the proposed law indefinitely. The move came on the advice of City Attorney Jonathan Lowell who said the ordinance would be considered at a later date after the council reviews threats of litigation over the measure.

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Posted by Chris Markle
a resident of Sycamore Heights
on Jun 7, 2013 at 5:56 pm

Good! Even though PP is very poorly and vaguely written, one thing it clearly states is that any changes to it require voter approval. We're probably going to have to start with a better-written and more clear "son/daughter of PP" that is sharp and clear and get whatever that is by the voters. Then the council will have clear room to turn that into specific rules and regulations moving forward.

Too bad PP was such a vague mess in the first place (although I did vote for it)...

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Posted by Arroyo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 7, 2013 at 6:06 pm

Chris, of course you voted for it.


PP = Private Property confiscation without compensation

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Posted by local
a resident of Birdland
on Jun 7, 2013 at 10:06 pm

PP was fairly simple but lawyers will challenge everything. No matter how precise you make an initiative, it is difficult to cover every base. Because of the way the council handled the Oak Grove property, the citizens did not have a lot of time to write an initiative, circulate it, and collect signatures in the legal amount of time.

If the council did its job by coming up with a hillside development ordinance (which the General Plan required) prior to allowing Oak Grove to be heard, there would have been more time for public import and weighing everything and could have avoided a citizen initiative. The council did not do their job, so the citizens had to do something. I am so glad that there are engaged citizens in our community that would put these things together when the council does not do their job, allowing the citizens to directly vote on how they want their city. With the millions of dollars spent on the campaign by developers to try and defeat this, and the citizens still approving it by a wide margin, that should tell the council what the community is looking for.

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Posted by Sad
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 8, 2013 at 8:52 am

Some members of the council don't care what you want. I have heard statements like, You elected me, now let me do my job. And that is precisely where representing us stopped and representing their own interests stared.

The vote was 3:1. Who was the 1?

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Posted by Longtimer
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 8, 2013 at 11:10 am

This community member and taxpayer thinks it's tragic the property owner lost their property right to build a few elegant homes, giving our community massive amounts of open space, plus giving our city massive amounts of money to make our 'community' better.
Personally selfish and narrow-minded NIMBYs do not think about the community.

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Posted by Nomad
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 8, 2013 at 12:33 pm

I recommend the Lins tunnel into the hillside and up whatever grade they want to get to the top.

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Posted by Nomad
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 8, 2013 at 12:35 pm

And helicopter all building materials up for whatever they want to build. It would be a pretty secure home you'd have to admit.

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Posted by Love it or leave it
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 9, 2013 at 12:44 am

Sorry long timer, there is no longer miles of open space on the prairie anymore. Thanks to you and your lawyers, California ain't what it used to be. The open space we have left is precious, people have to fight to protect their town from big time developers trying to make a buck, but not interested in the quality of a town.

There is open space in Texas, feel free to move there.

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Posted by I agree
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 12, 2013 at 10:50 pm

Yeah! Developers make large donations to our mayor and council for hilltop projects. It is time to stop and smell the roses. Even if it is from afar.

And if this does not please you, sorry. Open space and ridge protection have been in the General Plan since 1995.

Want houses on every hill? Move to Castro Valley - please.

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a resident of Ridgeview Commons

on Jun 3, 2017 at 11:42 pm

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