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PUSD broke but offering Pre K

Original post made by WTF, Canyon Meadows, on Jan 17, 2012

PUSD constantly broke, asking for funds from parents, however suggesting:

Pleasanton Unified School District pre-registration for Kindergarten and Pre-Kindergarten for the 2012-2013 school year!

Beginning next year, the District may have the opportunity, based on the availability of state funding, to offer a new program
for our youngest students.

No funds and or short on funds, but suggesting adding more students?

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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 17, 2012 at 12:49 pm

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The program is state law, assuming the state funds its own programs. Jeesh!

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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 17, 2012 at 12:54 pm

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Here's some information about transitional kindergarten: Web Link

Just hope more rigorous academic curriculum isn't pushed down to transitional kindergarten like what happened to kindergarten.

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Posted by WTF
a resident of Canyon Meadows
on Jan 17, 2012 at 1:13 pm

Thanks for the link Stacey.

What Funds does the State of CA Have? CA is broke.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jan 17, 2012 at 1:23 pm

Brown has already suggested not funding transitional kindergarten. Seems premature to start enrolling students.

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Posted by Kathleen Ruegseger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jan 17, 2012 at 1:31 pm

Here is a link about pre-K from CDE: Web Link

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Posted by Dan
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 17, 2012 at 1:33 pm

From Stacey's web link:

"...although we are fortunate to be able to do this without any new costs to the state until 2025."

Would anyone in their right mind bet on the accuracy of that statement?

Does the California high-speed rail ring a bell?

Geesh, the absurdity of it all is really quite...absurd!


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 17, 2012 at 2:07 pm

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"...although we are fortunate to be able to do this without any new costs to the state until 2025."

I don't know how this conclusion was arrived at, but theoretically the number of students stays the same and thus the ADA funding would be the same. The students to be enrolled in T-K (ultimately) would have normally entered Kindergarten if they turn 5 after Sept. 1 but before Dec. 2. So it isn't new funds for a new program, but the same funds used now for both T-K and K.

I don't have an opinion on the program itself yet. Does it mean that some kids get 13 years of school and some get 14 years of school because they were born between Sept. 1 and Dec. 2? Sounds odd.

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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills
on Jan 17, 2012 at 2:46 pm

There are programs in the state (Palo Alto and New Haven are two) that have Young 5s or pre-K. These start around January before a child would begin kindergarten and run through June. The programs are small but successful.

I had hoped that T-K and the new K cutoff (rolling back over three years to September) could end the practice of red-shirting (keeping a child out of school an extra year). K classes can begin with students ranging in age from their late 4s to those just turning 6 when the year begins.

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Posted by AnnaS
a resident of Foothill High School
on Jan 18, 2012 at 10:41 am

I believe that eventually T-K classes are a good idea. If these classes will be implemented as they should, they can be beneficial for both kids and parents. Also, if Californians will decide to start doing things right way, they can find enough money for these classes and more by cutting spendings on bureaucracy and endless regulations.
But, as long as Californians allow their politicians to use children as hostages to make people pay more taxes, I afraid it will be another failed attempt to improve our failed public education system.

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Posted by TK
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jan 18, 2012 at 4:30 pm

CA is one of very few states that allows children to enroll in Kindergarten as long as they turn 5 by Dec 1st. CA proposed to move the date from Dec 1st to Sept 1st over 3 years to save money. Shaving off 1 months saves the state ~$260M each year by reducing the number of students eligible for school. To fill the gap for students caught between Sept 1st and Dec 1st the State proposed creating and funding TK. From a learning perspective, TK has proven to be very effective in improving the educational outcome of students. Brown has proposed in his January budget to not fund TK and to remove the requirement to offer the program. However, the date for Kindergarten enrollment will still change over 3 years, saving the State ~$260M. The nightmare for school districts would be to keep the requirement for TK and not fund it.

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Posted by Rita
a resident of Downtown
on Jan 18, 2012 at 6:22 pm

Free daycare for the wonderful mothers of these children. They should be ashamed.

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Posted by Rita you don't know
a resident of Bordeaux Estates
on Jan 18, 2012 at 6:59 pm

You really don't know what you're talking about. Many kids with birthday's in the last quarter of the year go to school before they are ready. I know from firsthand experience. I think this is an important program and maybe if some of the parents would be a little more involved (instead of the same ones all the time) this program could be successful without hiring as many credentialed teachers. (sorry Union) PUSD would do well to hire a volunteer coordinator and harness in some of the talented parents that have the time to perform significant volunteer skills to the schools, but it takes organization to do this. It's only free babysitting to a few; most will get involved and see the difference it makes. Kindergarten isn't playing and naps anymore folks!

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Posted by Marcia
a resident of another community
on Jan 18, 2012 at 7:45 pm

Pre-K is a good idea. Raising my granddaughter is telling me all I need to know. There are 'black holes' out there, depending on location, that do not allow 5 yr old children to continue Pre-school because they are too old. Yet, these children are not mature or academically ready for the demands of today's kindergarten curriculums. True, there are various pre-schools that still allow 5 yr olds (Montessori for one) but the expenses put many families into a bind. The saddest story would be a child who had to enter into Kindergarten too early and suffer the emotional set backs many do or to 'red shirt' and possibly suffer emotional set backs from being...too old, too big, maybe still too underdeveloped academically (per family situations). Each child is different and should be looked at as an individual. However, it is really difficult to have such a 'pendulum swing' in academic and emotional students per classroom (not even including ELs in this case) and still be able to hold some sense of academic achievement without burning out the teachers therein...or frustrate the students within. I know.

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Posted by Parent
a resident of Val Vista
on Jan 18, 2012 at 8:03 pm

My understanding is that California received a federal grant that is specifically to go towards this Transitional Kindergarten program. We should not be agree at our local school district, but at our state and federal government. The fact is preschool is a neccesity especially with the current Kindergarten curriculum! With the current financial situation in California the LAST thing we should be doing is funding a Pre-K program, but put that money towards bettering our current Public Education including our current class size and keeping Teachers (the good ones) employed.

We need to write letters, call, e-mail, contact our local journalists and let the politicians know that we will NOT stand for this. California continues to misuse our tax money, but our politicians ask for higher taxes. Lets stop arguing amongst ourselves and start getting angry with our current Governor, Senators, Representatives, Mayors, Etc. Until we as voters speak up, nothing will change!

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Posted by TK
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jan 19, 2012 at 9:57 am

Rita/Marcia - TK and K are optional program for parents and kids. Not ready...don't send em.

Parent - some district may receive fed $ but PUSD does not and will not for TK. I am confused by your arguement that TK is need but we shouldn't fund it? I am also not sure on what you are asking us to protest and "Not Stand for". The Govenor is proposing to not fund TK regardless if there is or is not a TK program. Regarding the misuse of tax dollars...The cost to send a child to preschool/daycare is around $750 a month and we don't expect them to educate the child ($750 a month = $9000 a year). The state gives PUSD about $7200. Has school become free daycare?

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Posted by other
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 19, 2012 at 9:59 am

Why can't the school system offer the T-K as an option for the those interested.... with some nominal tuition to help cover some costs but not make a profit (similar to a non-profit preschool tuition...what does the KidZangle program charge?)? Using parent volunteers to help coordinate and assist with teachers is also a great idea to reduce costs. Tuition assistance could be available and based upon the free/reduced lunch scale would also be appropriate.

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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 19, 2012 at 9:02 pm

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It's a little strange that not many consider the pushing down of rigorous academic curriculum to earlier grades as the problem. Do parents feel they are getting their money's worth by subjecting young children to a style of schooling that is more fit for older children? I think the main reason experts say preschool and T-K are beneficial is precisely because of the change of curriculum in Kindergarten (or what I call first grade). It's kind of creepy the notion of a child being ready or not for Kindergarten, as if the kid were getting ready to go to college.

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Posted by Janene
a resident of Birdland
on Mar 9, 2012 at 2:49 pm

Just found this. looks like the board votes next wk if PUSD will have the transitional kindergarten here. If they vote yes, PUSD signs up the preschoolers and hires teachers and buys supplies and then asks the state to reimburse them but it looks like the $ wont come til a long time after the classes start. Brown also took transitional K off the budget for now so how would they pay PUSD back? Web Link

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