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Original post made by Laury, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Dec 13, 2011

be careful of foxes crossing Bernal near 680 North entrance after dark

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Posted by Mrs. B
a resident of Mohr Park
on Dec 13, 2011 at 10:37 am

It is noble of you to want to protect the foxes. However, I think you are ill informed. Foxes are incredibly mean creatures. If Foxes have become so brazen as to be on the freeway more than once, it would be a public service to run them over. Foxes are one of the most likely animals to carry rabies and transmit it to a domestic animal. They are also very likely to attack people, during the day, unprovoked, after they become acclimated to being in an suburban setting. People make a big deal about Coyotes in suburbia. Foxes are a much bigger threat. Recently, one of the networks did a weekly news presentation about a town in Colorado that had an obvious fox population (foxes should almost never be seen by humans) Check it out, people were getting attacked right and left by the cute little critters. In California, we are too concerned about the well being of preditory creatures such as foxes, coyotes and mountain lions, and not concerned enough for the well being of the people and animals they may attack.

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Posted by Cholo
a resident of San Ramon
on Dec 13, 2011 at 1:17 pm

Mrs. B is an incredibly mean creature. She knocks of garbage cans and eats everything inside. It would be a public service to run over her.

Mrs. B is a mean spirited ole gone!

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Posted by Bubbas
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 13, 2011 at 2:52 pm

Mammals of the SF Bay Area - According to this website, fox play an important role in ecosystem.

Kit Foxes - Web Link

Even with its big, conspicuous ears and relatively long legs, the slender-built San Joaquin kit fox is the smallest member of the dog family in North America. Historically, this kit fox was widely distributed throughout grassland, scrubland, and wetland communities in the San Joaquin Valley and adjacent low foothills, but agricultural, urban, and industrial development in the Valley — including oil and gas development — has led to extensive and continuing loss of native habitat, the primary threat to kit foxes. Today, much of the kit fox’s remaining habitat is extremely fragmented, movement corridors are degraded or blocked, and only a few large areas of native grasslands remain on the San Joaquin Valley’s perimeter.

Besides habitat loss, the San Joaquin kit fox is threatened by pesticides and rodenticides expelled through intensive agricultural use, by industrial and infrastructure projects, and in residential areas in the Central Valley. Kit foxes’ small-mammal prey base has been significantly reduced by rodenticides, which not only kill kit foxes’ prey, but can also kill kit foxes when they build up in the foxes’ bodies. In 2006, the Center released a report on Bay Area species harmed by pesticides, and the next year we sued the Environmental Protection Agency for registering and allowing the use of 56 toxic pesticides in habitats for 11 Bay Area species. In 2009, we filed a notice of intent to sue the Bureau of Land Management for approving a new oil and gas lease sale in sensitive kit fox habitat.

The San Joaquin kit fox was federally listed as an endangered species in 1967 and was listed by California four years later; the fox has gotten some help from a 1998 recovery plan for upland San Joaquin Valley, in which it’s described as an “umbrella species” — meaning efforts to save the fox’s habitat will benefit other native plants and animals. In August 2010, the Center petitioned the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to designate critical habitat for the San Joaquin kit fox.

Web Link

Gray foxes have a small, but important role in our ecosystems. Their feeding habits allow them to influence small rodent (Rodentia) populations by maintaining a steady predator-prey relationship. They serve as a host to many parasitic arthropods, including fleas (Siphonaptera), lice (Phthiraptera), ticks (Ixodida), chiggers (Trombidiformes), and mites (Acari). Gray foxes are also host to a number of internal parasites including nematodes (Nematoda), flukes (Trematoda), tapeworms (Cestoda), and acanthocephalans (acanthocephala) (Fritzell and Haroldson, 1982)

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Posted by cautious
a resident of Del Prado
on Dec 13, 2011 at 4:24 pm

A beautiful red fox crossed our path Saturday night on Stanley, somewhere around Shadowcliffs.
I'm glad I didn't hit him.

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Posted by Lessismore
a resident of Castlewood
on Dec 13, 2011 at 4:25 pm

Mrs B you are very mean person!

Tell me one time a fox has attacked a person!
There has only been one confirmed Coyote attack on a person. It happen in Eastern Canada.

Maybe you are to d**# to know what a wolf is vs a fox.

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Posted by Mrs. B
a resident of Mohr Park
on Dec 14, 2011 at 6:04 am

To begin with, you all need to get your facts straight, and not one of you does. NOT ONE. At least Bubba tried with the internet discription, but still did not hit the mark. Yes, the fox is an important part of our ecosystem. No argument there. However, that does not make them any less vicious. This is about there need to stay out of suburbia, not their part of the ecosystem at large.

Very disapointing that the majority of the public posting on this blog proves themselves to be so insecure as to post insults and taunts.

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Posted by Mrs.B
a resident of Mohr Park
on Dec 14, 2011 at 6:24 am

I am not going to do anyone's homework for them. However, do look into recent fox attacks in Georgia, Denver, Virginia, and London. I only spent a moment of my time searching the web, so I am sure there are even more.

The trouble arises when Foxes get used to being around people. A timid, healthy fox would not cross the freeway. Certainly not more than once. It would be to terrified to. One that was used to man and cars would not be so hesitant.

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Posted by J
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Dec 14, 2011 at 9:20 am

Mrs. B you have a way better chance of being attacked by a dog than a fox here in Pleasanton. So why aren't you telling people to run over dogs too. I worked at Callippe GC and there was always foxes out there and they always ran away when they saw people. I think you are ill informed.

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Posted by Mrs. B
a resident of Mohr Park
on Dec 14, 2011 at 9:42 am

J, the subject at hand was the fox, not the area dogs. Would you like to start a new post? We could go on about Raccoons too. They are a bigger issue in Pleasanton than foxes. I do not doubt your experiance with the foxes at the golf course. Were you seeing them at night or during the day? If you were seeing them repeatedly during the day, that is not a good sign even if they ran away. The point is, they are becoming used to humans. Bad idea. I, am very well informed. I continue to be amazed at the number of people that toss out insults instead of educating themselves.

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Posted by kim
a resident of Del Prado
on Dec 14, 2011 at 12:10 pm

How interesting that when we believe we are annonymus we can sling the insults around. How about some manners?. Pretend your kids are watching you if that will work for you.

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Posted by daniel
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 14, 2011 at 3:16 pm

I see foxes on a regular basis over in Pleasanton Ridge. We're blessed to have such wildlife nearby.

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Posted by Tango
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Dec 14, 2011 at 5:41 pm

The last I heard there are three types of Foxes in this area. The gray fox, and the kit fox, both of which are native to California and other States. Then we have the Red Fox. This fox is not native and is considered a devastator of native fox habitats. They were brought over from The UK to satisfy the fox hunters that missed their sport from home. Same thing with the Starling.

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Posted by Beth
a resident of Mohr Park
on Dec 14, 2011 at 5:54 pm

@ Mrs. B

How about we all move out of the Foxes' habitat? They were here first? Just like the mountain lions, and all the other creatures. Some adapt to living with humans and suburbia, some don't, but all wild creatures (including wild turkeys) are going to attack if they feel threatened. I'm one of the lucky ones to see a mountain lion back by Martin Way early one morning. I also was "trapped" in a car back there when a group of turkeys parading down the street decided they wanted to attack the car- LOL! Don't run over the fox, call the right agencies, the Pleasanton Police Animal Services Unit (925) 931-5100

Also, if you are afraid the City of Pleasanton's website has some good suggestions here: Web Link

Nature is beautiful and we are slowly squeezing all of the wild animals out of the valley.

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Posted by Sumati
a resident of Castlewood
on Dec 14, 2011 at 6:27 pm

Well lets just take this to its logical conclusion. According to Mrs. B we should run over anything that might attack a person. So if you see a dog, cat, racoon, mountain lion, fox, coyote, Great White Shark, bat, rat, mouse, snake, spider, and last but not least any person (certainly lots of people attack people).. speed up and plow them over!!!

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Posted by Laury
a resident of Laguna Vista
on Dec 15, 2011 at 6:27 pm

so sorry... thought i was posting to let everyone know there are foxes out after dark. didn't intend to be pro or con foxes...just meant to say i saw one crossing the road...and why did the chicken cross the road?

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Posted by Wile E Coyote
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 15, 2011 at 11:21 pm

Because if it stayed in the street, Mrs. B would run it over.

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Posted by Laury
a resident of Laguna Vista
on Dec 16, 2011 at 12:16 pm

priceless! that fox has me laughing with tears streaming down. i think he has brought every human emotion to the discussion. thank you, all.

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Posted by Foxy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 16, 2011 at 4:58 pm

Oh no wait till Mrs. B finds out.

Lone wolf wanders near California border; last known wolf in state killed in 1924
By Mike Taugher
Contra Costa Times
Posted: 12/16/2011 02:49:46 PM PST
Updated: 12/16/2011 03:09:02 PM PST

A lone gray wolf from an Oregon pack has wandered within 30 miles of the California border and could become the first wolf in the Golden State in nearly a century.

State wildlife officials believe wolves are almost certain to cross into California in the coming years but it is unclear how they might fare when they get here.

The Oregon wolf, known as OR7, came closest to California about a month ago but has since traveled northeast and is now about 50 miles from the border in an area between Upper Klamath Lake and Crater Lake, said Mark Stopher, an ecologist and adviser to the California Department of Fish and Game director.

"If he decided to come to California, he could be here in two days," Stopher said.

Stopher said he considers it highly likely that a wolf will venture over the border, whether a male and female come into California and start a pack is less certain.

Wolves were killed out of the American West and remain controversial among ranchers because they occasionally kill livestock.

"Right now, I don't know that one wolf is a huge concern," said Stevie Ipsen, spokeswoman for the California Cattlemen's Association. "It's something that we're definitely keeping an eye on. Should he reach California, it would be a concern."

The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service reintroduced gray wolves to central Idaho and Yellowstone National Park in 1995. Wolves from that program have spread into neighboring areas and have
formed four packs in northeastern Oregon. OR7, a nearly two-year-old male, dispersed from one of those packs. Young wolves often do that to look for mates or a new pack to join.

The last wolf known to inhabit California was a killed in Lassen County in 1924. That wolf had already lost one of its legs to a trap at the time it was killed.

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Posted by Laury
a resident of Laguna Vista
on Dec 17, 2011 at 12:46 am

interesting about wolves...weren't wolves domesticated and turned into dogs? what am i thinking? don't you just throw a few scraps of leftovers to them and they hang around and forget about killing livestock? and then they protect the family?

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