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Lifeguards make over $100,000

Original post made by Rita, Downtown, on May 20, 2011

Not only do the lifeguards in Newport Beach make between $100,000 and $200,000 per year but they are also members of the Firefighters Association and as such are eligible for retirement at age 50 with all benefits. I wonder how much ours make at Shadow Cliffs?


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Posted by b
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 20, 2011 at 10:28 am

$16-20/hour, depending on experience. That's substantially lower than $100k/year. Here's the link to the job posting. Go apply, if you're qualified. Web Link


Posted by Greatest Generation GONE
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 20, 2011 at 10:32 am

Our Grandfathers and my Father were the GREATEST GENERATION. Sadly, we are now two generations removed from those men of honor and integrity. Twice removed don't know the meaning of honor and integrity, and sadly seem to know only personal greed, which is no substitute for honor and integrity. Sadly, many twice removed don't even recognize it....in themselves.


Posted by xyz
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 20, 2011 at 12:12 pm

You're obsessed with pensions, aren't you? Is it because you won't be getting one? Why don't you try and organize your place of employment? Furthermore, get involved in some organization fighting the Trade imbalance between us and the chinese. Considering we are competing against slave children that make not much more than a plate of rice a day, pretty soon we'll all be in the same level of wealth as they. Maybe if we weren't giving away our jobs and manufacturing to China, there wouldn't be all this bitc***g about pensions. You should be complaining to Corporate CEOs and their greedy buddies.


Posted by paul
a resident of Downtown
on May 20, 2011 at 12:18 pm

xyz, YES!


Posted by Michael
a resident of Livermore
on May 20, 2011 at 1:57 pm

xyz and Paul,

nice try but it will never work fellas. You just realize that the handwriting is on the wall and all of these pensions are going to be defaulted on. I also have a pension and realize mine might be at risk. I do however have a solution and that would be to take the amount currently funded and put it in private 401K accounts so that public workers can continue to contribute to and this way we will not lose everything and only a sizeable chunk. I realize there is not enough money and do not want to be one of those left when it becomes completely empty.


Posted by b
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 21, 2011 at 8:20 am

Well said, xyz. We should be helping to lift up our fellow humans, not push them down. This is not a zero sum game. We do not have to hurt other people in order to improve our own situations.

What happened to Rita? Unwilling to defend her drivel when I presented her with facts?


Posted by Rita
a resident of Downtown
on May 21, 2011 at 9:03 am

b,

b, can you read or do any research on your own? The article is in the Orange County newspapers, CNN did a piece on it etc. The lifeguards are in the firefighters union and they interviewed the President of the union who justified the salaries as being "scale" and agreed to by the county. We should be paying for the value and worth of a job not what some union demands. I guess I am talking to a wall when I talk to you based on your others posts and what others have said so unless you can come up with something intelligent then.................off with you b...........


Posted by Laura
a resident of Livermore
on May 21, 2011 at 11:29 am

Michael from Livermore raises a good point when he claims he's paid more than he should be. Probably the best thing for him to do is to give back to the city whatever excess he feels he's making, and that way he can do the walk as well as the talk and the money he returns can go towards paying off those unsustainable unfunded unaccountable irresponsible liabilities. Perhaps then many others of those overpaid public employee slackers will exercise their own genius by acknowledging that, like Michael, they're not worth the money the city has been paying them. Go ahead, Michael. Put your money where your mouth is. We're all behind you.


Posted by Chuck
a resident of Livermore
on May 21, 2011 at 11:47 am

I'm one of those incompetent public workers that Michael and Laura from Livermore talk about. I'm clearly not worth what they pay me because I just sit around my office writing personal emails and doing facebook all day long. I'll be one of the first to give back some of the unsustainable liable funding unaccountable salary, benefits and pensions that the city agreed to. Like Mike, I'm always willing to do my part in combatting the irresponsible liabilties which are unsustainablely funded by unaccountable public workers. Count me as incompetent public employees but one of the accountable ones!


Posted by Michael
a resident of Livermore
on May 21, 2011 at 12:17 pm

Let's be factual and honest here, I am only doing this for my self preservation because I am a realist and know that my pension is unsustainable, underfunded, and left on its own will not be there in its full sum when I retire and while I am retired. Many of my police, fire, and city workers retired as soon as they were able thinking that it was better to get while the getting was good, meaning that once they were retired the ones not retired were the ones who will see their benefits cut and honestly many of them retired on disability not because they were but because they hold it as insurance against having their retirement benefits cut. I do not for a minute believe there will be money there for me nor them regardless of the circumstances and what my union leadership tells me. Therefore, I would be willing to have whatever I have currently funded and on the books converted over to a 401K.


Posted by Laura
a resident of Livermore
on May 21, 2011 at 12:59 pm

Michael from Livermore as much as acknowledges that he and his underfunded, unfunded, undersustainable, unsustainable, unaccountable public employees, liabilities all, are overpaid. Rather than give us all this empty talk, why doesn't he put his money where his mouth is? Or better yet, he could quit and find a job in the private sector -- but no, the private sector isn't unsustainable, underfunded, unaccountable, irresponsible, liability-prone, and so he probably couldn't keep his job. Still, some other slacker at least would be able to slide into Michael's position. C'mon, Michael, do the right thing! Cut all of us responsible and accountable Livermore taxpayers who desire sustainability and fundability and accountability and responsibility a break. Send whatever excess -- what, maybe 50% of your salary and 100% of your pension -- back to the city.


Posted by b
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 21, 2011 at 1:09 pm

Rita, I still don't get the crisis. I posted a link showing our local lifeguards making $16-20/hour. The article you posted says that most of the Newport lifeguards also make those same low wage. The exception is a very small number of managers/professionals with decades of experience. Their salaries are lower than what managers/professionals earn in most other industries.

Maybe the problem is your salary/employer, not theirs?


Posted by Chuck
a resident of Livermore
on May 21, 2011 at 1:26 pm

Your exactly right Laura! Michael shows the hypocritical liability involved with being an underfunded, unsustainable, unaccountable public worker. He's willing to sell out his fellow unaccountable incompetents and throw his irreponsible union under the bus, but he suffers an undersustained amount of courage that leaves him sucking on the taxpayers' teats. What a phoney. What he and the other liabilities should do is forfeit there jobs and go to work in the sustainable private sector where you really have to earn your living without all the underfunded liability involved.


Posted by Jeannette
a resident of Livermore
on May 21, 2011 at 10:56 pm

Dear Michael

You've already stated your pension won't be available to you at retirement time. And surely you must believe your own words.

You've exposed your fellow public employee workers as frauds who are bilking the honest HARD working taxpayers out of millions.

Like Chuck says you've blown the whistle on your union and thrown them under the bus.

The only thing left for you do to is quit with dignity and sign on with an employer so you can go the 401K route. Help us and save yourself. Show us how there's at least one public employee who isn't a sponge like you currently are and who has some backbone.


Posted by Michael
a resident of Livermore
on May 21, 2011 at 11:29 pm

Jeannette/Chuck,

Now why would I want to do that? I get paid good money, do not have to do much, and when I do the work is not really hard. I am just looking for a way to protect what has already been set aside for me in my pension. I do how ever have a couple of small businesses set up on the side and I can do much of the work associated with them while I am at work. No, I am just fine but thanks for your concern or should I say jealousy?


Posted by Jeannette
a resident of Livermore
on May 22, 2011 at 12:03 am

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Posted by Pietra
a resident of Del Prado
on May 22, 2011 at 8:54 am

Jeannette,

I am a teacher and am trying to figure out how to do the same thing as Michael. It does not make us better or worse teachers but you must understand we are people just like you and must look out for number one and that is us. This is the reason why we have a union to begin with, very simply to get us the highest wages and benefits as possible, good working environment, and job protection. It is as simple as that. We teach because we enjoy it (most of the time), but more importantly because we need to make as much money as possible to live as well as we can, simple as that.


Posted by Jeannette
a resident of Livermore
on May 22, 2011 at 1:12 pm

@ "am a teacher and am trying to figure out how to do the same thing as Michael"

And what does that entail? Acknowledging that you and your work colleagues are lazy and corrupt? Throwing your union under the bus? If you're concerned about losing your pension, go to work someplace else in the private sector with 401K's where you can slack all day long. If you can't/won't do that, then your words are hypocritical.


Posted by Pietra
a resident of Del Prado
on May 22, 2011 at 4:24 pm

Jeannette,

????? Why would I want to work in the private sector when I make very good money and only need to work 8 months and change per year for it? We have it very easy in my mind do not appreciate how easy we have it and to the citizens who pay our salaries such as yourself I say thank you!!!


Posted by I READ BOOKS
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 22, 2011 at 5:23 pm

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Posted by What a hoot!
a resident of Del Prado
on May 22, 2011 at 8:11 pm

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Posted by Jeannette
a resident of Livermore
on May 22, 2011 at 8:58 pm

Thanx! I see what you mean!


Posted by Teach Part Time
a resident of Downtown
on May 22, 2011 at 9:35 pm

I 'm a public school teacher and have a full time job but I like to joke and tell peopel that I only work part time which is really true and then I have to explain myself and everyone laughs accept the taxpayer. I'm scared to death about losing my pension and its my unions' fault. I'm way over paid and I realize that my job is underfunded which means no sustainablity even for the students who I can take or leave. Teaching is way over rated I can tell you and I'd much rather be a lifeguard because theirs sunshine but we both just sit around and don't do much and they get a tan and I don't.


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