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To "Some" Dog Owners........

Original post made by Frustrated!, Downtown, on Mar 1, 2010

I have noticed an increased number of dog owners who walk their dogs past my home and allow the dogs to urinate/poop on my property. Recently the same woman has walked her dog and let her dog relieve him/herself on my property; while I was standing on my driveway on two separate occasions. As I stood there will my jaw agape, I asked her to please not let her dog poop on my property. She then had the nerve to let out an annoyed sigh and tell me that I was rude! I've also been outside watering my flowers when other dog owners have allowed their pets to relieve themselves on my lawn and they too, have the nerve to give me a dirty look when I've asked them to not allow their dog to poop on my property. Seriously!?!?!

I'm a bit confused.....when did common courtesey, manners and decency go out the window? I too was once a dog owner for over 20 years and I can tell you that I never once allowed my dog to uriniate/poop on anyone's lawn or property; because is simply rude and irresponsible as a pet owner. I was responsible for my pet and made sure he did his business at a park (and I disposed of it) or in our own yard. This is frustrating to me because I take great pride in my home and yard and we keep is manicured nicely. Why do some dog owners feel they are entitled to let their dog destroy other people's property? Why do they not have the common decency to respect other's property? I now have two large burnt cirlces of lawn where this woman let her dog urinate. These spots will take months to regenerate themselves back to healthy lawn. So again, I wonder...where on earth do these pet owners get off being so rude and inconsiderate to their neighbors? How dare they?

Please "some" dog owners, exercise respect and courtesey for your fellow neighbors and their property. Let your dog do his/her business on your property, not the property of others. The pet is yours, take responsiblity for him/her.

Comments (60)

Posted by Me too!
a resident of Downtown
on Mar 1, 2010 at 9:03 am

Wow, thank you! I've experience the same thing so many times! A man was letting his dog pee on my lawn and I said "excuse me, please don't let your dog ruin my lawn." He replied, "what's the big deal?" I replied, "because it's rude and it ruins my lawn." And he replied, "yeah, umm..I'll have a talk with her." UGGHH!

I agree, far too many pet owners in Pleasanton feel it's their given right to let their dog relieve themselves where ever they want; whether it's someone else's lawn or flower bed. I'm not blaming the pets, I blame the pet owners for their inconsiderate nature.

Posted by Dog owner
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 1, 2010 at 10:46 am guys get me worried. I would never let someone get away with that. Not the pet part, the being rude to me after ther fact part. I would follow them home. I would try to avoid an "incident", but I would follow them close enough that I could know where they live. I would HAVE to know where in my neighborhood they lived. It appears I haven't matured enough yet to handle such disrespect to my face.

Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Mar 1, 2010 at 11:32 am

call the FBI...

Posted by Little Mikey
a resident of Birdland
on Mar 1, 2010 at 1:10 pm

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Posted by westsider
a resident of Foothill High School
on Mar 1, 2010 at 2:42 pm

Hey 'Little Mikey,' why are you being so disrespectful of someone who merely wants no trespassing on their property, and a little neighborly consideration? Is that really too much to ask? You don't have to get nasty and snarky just because sometone asks not to have dogpoop dumped on their lawn, do you?

Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Mar 1, 2010 at 5:10 pm

who said anything about dog poop on their lawn?

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tee hee hee, tee hee hee...

Posted by dogowner
a resident of Bonde Ranch
on Mar 1, 2010 at 6:33 pm

As a responsible dog owner I always pick up after my dog. However, when it comes to a dog "taking a pee" that is hard to control. Even with the dog on a leash, they stop too quickly and start going before even tugging or pulling them makes them stop. I would worry more about irresponsible dog owners not picking up poop after their animals. Call Animal Contol.

Posted by pee pee now please
a resident of Downtown
on Mar 1, 2010 at 7:34 pm

Please explain how one would go about stopping their pet to urinate? I am not the "Dog Whisper" but my dog is pretty well trained, that said I have not trained him to- pee on command. While walking- to a park- would I say "Now please hold it cause the Kooky lady on the message board does not like that."

Posted by Laura
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 1, 2010 at 9:24 pm

Obviously, there's nothing 'kooky' about the poster. The quality of people who post is not high.
It IS hard to keep your dog from peeing on the way to the park.
All dog owners should pick up their dogs crap.
I have noticed that men are less likely to pick up after their dogs than women.
American culture is becoming increasingly narcissistic, that's just a fact.

Posted by Qwerty
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 1, 2010 at 10:05 pm

Several people have commented that it is difficult if not impossible to stop their dogs from urinating because it "happens so quickly". Why can't these same people walk their dog on the opposite side so they are next to the street instead of someone's lawn?

I've even seen dog poop on the sidewalk, right smack in the middle of the pavement. We don't want to have a nice walk turned into a trip through an obstacle course!

Posted by Jerry
a resident of Oak Hill
on Mar 2, 2010 at 1:29 am

If I'm not mistaken someone had a similar post long ago and I complained about someone allowing their dog to use my juniper as a urinal...

I solved the problem with a water hose. The owner objected vigorously and threatened to call the cops. I gave him my address on a piece of paper and told him to "Go for it". That was long ago and I haven't had a visit from Pleasanton's finest yet, nor anymore visits from the dog. Just be sure not to wet the owner. That could be considered assualt...

I could be wrong, but I believe city regulations state dogs must be kept under control at all times, on or off leash..

If someone allows a dog to poop on my friends lawn and walks away without picking it up, he simply scoops it into a paper bag, delivers it to the persons house, rings the door bell, hands the paper bag to them with "Your dog left this on my lawn" and walks away. He said it works...

I like Qwerty's suggestion about keeping the dog on the street side. Problem solved... Now if we could just do something about cats...:)


Soak the brown spots really good with water to disperse the urine, pull the dead grass, scratch in some grass seed, cover with mulch(grass clippings work great)and keep it moist. You'll have new grass in no time...:)

Posted by Faith
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Mar 2, 2010 at 7:42 am

About two years ago I opened the front door to bring in the mail and found a young man allowing his dog to poop on my lawn. As he walked off I asked him if I should get him a bag to pick it up, since he was not carrying one himself. He said "Yeah, whatever," and continued to walk off. I followed him down the block, across the street, and to the front door of his apartment. I made no attempt to hide my actions and he was fully aware that I was trailing him. When confronted I simply said that I hoped to return the poop to him and needed his address to do so. He returned to my home within the hour and cleaned up the poop.

Posted by Dog Owner
a resident of Downtown
on Mar 2, 2010 at 7:49 am

I have witnessed quite a few people letting their dogs relieve themselves on my lawn even though I have signs out asking people to pick up after their animals...I have chased a few down the block giving them a bag and telling them to walk back to my lawn to pick up the poop...I have also collected the crap myself and left the bag on the front porch of these people telling them next time it wont be in a bag on the front porch...if people are going to be rude in not picking up I can be just as rude and retaliate...the best thing I have done is collect the poop for a whole week.. can you imagine this owner let her dog poop on my lawn every day... then I scattered it on her lawn....told her she keeps forgetting something...hehehehe.. never see her and her dog anymore

Posted by Linz
a resident of Foothill High School
on Mar 2, 2010 at 8:15 am

Try sprinkling a mix of cayenne and black pepper on your grass or putting vinegar around the perimeter of your yard.

Posted by Clem
a resident of Happy Valley
on Mar 2, 2010 at 8:33 am

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Posted by stevep
a resident of Parkside
on Mar 2, 2010 at 8:35 am

To answer part of the original post, the rudeness and inconsiderate behavior you cited started with gen X and the permissive behavior that promoted an me-first, anything goes attitude.
Most younger people have no respect for other people's property rights or many laws because they don't think it applies to them or they are above it and willfully ignore the law.
So, basically, it's not the dogs who are the problem, it's their irresponsible, lazy, selfish, stupid owners.
Get a leash, put it on your dog. Hold the leash tight so your dog can't stray onto tyour neighbors property. Problem solved.

Posted by Hybrid Owner
a resident of Valley Trails
on Mar 2, 2010 at 8:48 am

Isnt your front lawn 'private property' therefore subject to 'no trespassing' laws? I would think one could report the offender to the authorities and press charges for vandalizm, defacing of property?

I know people in my neighborhood that have been reported to animal control for letting their dogs poop in our park and leaving the poop. Those people have received citations/fines in the mail from Animal Control. Animal control did not have to witness the event, they only needed a complaint from a witness and an address for the offender.

Posted by Deer Sprinklers
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2010 at 8:55 am

You can get sprinklers that deter deer at Home Depot. They are motion sensetive and spray the animal when they come on the property, they get the message after the 1 st or 2nd spray.

Posted by Julia
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2010 at 9:04 am

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Posted by Michelle
a resident of Downtown
on Mar 2, 2010 at 9:04 am

Seems kind of ignorant to blame dog pooping problems on an entire generation!

It is completely inappropriate for dog owners to not clean up their dog's waste. It is terrible that a few bad dog owners ruin it for everyone else. I thought the original post was carefully crafted because the person stated that a few people have this issue. I take my kids to the park and I can't tell you how terrible it is if they fall into dog poop or step in it. But this isn't a new issue. This has been going on for years and years. I've been stepping in other people's dog poop for what seems like forever!

Posted by Sue
a resident of another community
on Mar 2, 2010 at 9:19 am

It's not just Pleasanton - it happens in every neighborhood. I live on a corner and for some reason people feel that is the place to stop and let their pets eliminate on my property. I have been outside gardening when someone has past with their animal and allowed them to do their business on my lawn and they never flinched even though it was obvious I was standing right there and they saw me. When I questioned their rude manners by allowing their animal to eliminate on my property they act like they're the victim.

In a previous post I saw where people made the suggestion to mistreat the animal. It's not the animals fault, it's their owner. The dog doesn't know they are doing something wrong unless their owner has trained them to eliminate where ever they wish. If people would be more considerate of others property, we wouldn't be having this conversation/post.

I am a pet owner and my dog eliminates in my OWN backyard previous to going for a walk.

Posted by agree with Clem
a resident of Downtown
on Mar 2, 2010 at 9:23 am

Clem has it right -- unfortunately just about everything he suggests could land a person in jail.
I had one neighbor with a cat that left muddy prints on my car, a dog that barked and pooped on my lawn, and an attitude that all of this was my problem. He also drove a car with a sun roof. I collected a pail full of his dog s*&^, added some water, and dumped it through the sun roof all over his seats. End of problem.
When the doggy store moved into downtown these problems seem to have increased. Let's see, she advertises to bring dogs downtown for beer and food, then the owners wander into other stores and restaurants (where dogs are NOT allowed and NOT wanted) and they poop all over the sidewalks downtown as well. And some people on this forum think that a cigarette store and a tattoo parlor will bring the wrong people downtown! At least those people will not be peeing and pooping on our sidewalks.
Dear Pleasantights -- manage your dogs so that we don't have to. Not everyone is dog crazy and many of us are tired of your "dogs go everywhere" attitude.

Posted by Bill
a resident of Castlewood
on Mar 2, 2010 at 9:23 am is the Urine of a female that causes the lawn to burn. Males do not burn lawns. There are chemicals in female urine that do not exist in males that causes the burn. This burn does last for MONTHS and would piss me off too! (no pun intended)

Just giving the Dog Owners an opportunity to understand....

Poop on the other hand goes without saying...pick it up and nothing gets damaged....except for your ego as your dog looks back at you wondering what the heck you are doing....

Posted by denise
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2010 at 9:32 am

People can be very rude about letting their dogs use others property for relieving themselves. I knew someone was using my lawn for pooping and had a certain neighbor in mind. I decided to check my video cameras one day and found the evidence. I saw my neighbors dog on my lawn in the exact stop where there was poop the day before. I walked down to address this to my neighbor. Even though we had him on camera he totally denied it,but it has never happened since. Funny he was coming from chuech that day. Why bother if you can't be honest about simple things.

p.s. why isn't Laguna Oaks listed as a neigborhood?

Posted by P-town Dad
a resident of Amador Estates
on Mar 2, 2010 at 9:39 am

I would be offended if someone treated me like this and I'm a dog owner! Sometimes my dog just can't wait to get to the park, but I always pick it up - it is common courtesy.

I like the idea of seeing where they live and later delivering the poop back to their front porch...that's hilarious and gets the point across.

Ya gotta love livin' in P-town!

Posted by Frustrated TOO
a resident of Birdland
on Mar 2, 2010 at 9:46 am

I feel like I could have written Frustrated's letter word for word. I would like to add that the amount of dog poo my kids have to dodge on the way to school is frustrating as well. Please know that you're not the only one that feels people should take responsibility for themselves and their pets. Thinking it's no big deal to leave excrement or urine on someone's property (or the park...or on the way to school) is narcissistic disrespect and speaks volumes of their character. Unfortunately, asking nicely does not seem to work with these people. I like many of the suggestions posted on how to handle the situation.

Posted by DMC
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2010 at 10:00 am

The lawn on my corner house is surrounded on both street sides by a dense hedge yet I find dog poop on my lawn. I suspect that some thoughtless dog owner either walks the dog without a leash or just turns the dog out to go where he wishes after dark.

Posted by resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2010 at 10:13 am

I also completely agree with Frustrated! Thank you for bringing this up. I would also like to add that urine is what makes the yellow spots on the grass and yet some dog owners seem to think that letting their dog urinate on someone's yard is OK as long as they pick up the poop!

Posted by Sue
a resident of Val Vista
on Mar 2, 2010 at 10:15 am

A man around 80 was walking his dog and he let his dog poop on my lawn. I politely said can you please not allow your dog in the future to do that on my lawn and you not pick it up. He gave me the finger. I almost had to laugh cause I expected that reaction from someone younger. Haven't seen him since. Then the other extreme is a neighbor down Singletree who jogs without a dog, but with plastic bags and cleans up the poop on the sidewalks on lawns......

Posted by ted
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2010 at 10:26 am

i don't live anywhere near you all. google news picked up this 'story' and here i am. funny. anyway, it IS rude to let your dog do this, even if it's a poop and you pick it up right away. it's like spitting on someone's car and then when you wipe it up afterwards expecting them to act like the whole thing is normal. Not normal. I have a dog. Sometimes she 'pops a squat' without warning, where she shoudn't. I try my best to halt the incident if she tries to go on a lawn or communal space. i'm incredibly embarrassed and sorry when she does get away with one of these sly deposits and I clean up what I can, immediately. I certainly would never expect another's property to be my dog's regular spot. Unreal. The user who said he/she would follow the pet owner home? I'm there with you. And I would indeed be making a deposit on THEIR lawn.

Posted by I have a favorite pooper
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Mar 2, 2010 at 10:30 am

We have our own dog issues in our neighborhood. Like the German Shepherd that's off leash on Fairfield and crosses the street to bark at me and my pup. Or the women with the small white puff ball that lives near Black and Crestline who walks her little thing off leash and doesn't always pick up the poop. She thinks it's cute to have have that dog run up to big dogs on leash.

Yes, you can train your dog to relieve in your own yard. Mine does. If she needs to relieve unexpectedly on a walk, she's been trained to pee in the gutter.

Have you seen the Saturday Night Live skit with a person doing all these things to people and their property? Puts it into perspective how rude it is to pee or poop on someone else's property.

Posted by D W
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2010 at 10:45 am

To the woman who said that Frustrated was rude: stop being a hypocrite and stop giving dog owners in Pleasanton a bad name.

Most dog owners are very solid people. It's owners like those Frustrated confronts and unfortunately, those that don't read the Weekly or follow basic people-of-the-city-approved guidelines that are the biggest menaces toward all these ruined properties.

Until we weed out the dog owners who are clueless toward city and private property that isn't a park, I urge all people - dog owners or not, especially concerned parents who need their children to avoid the bacteria-infested dog poop (isn't that how food plants get shut down, because of its farm-or-field-like surroundings?) - to be as vigilent as ever in protecting yourselves and those within your circles. It is true that this problem has existed since dirt. So please, super dog owners, team up and call out the bad pet parents! It's really the only way progress can be made.

Posted by Attikai
a resident of another community
on Mar 2, 2010 at 10:52 am

I'm tired of people with their well manicured and well watered lawns ruining our water supplies. I'm tire of peoples kids littering all over my neighborhood. I'm tried of the exhaust from your automobile ruining the air I breath. But most of all I'm tired of people complaining about everything all the time.

Posted by ss
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2010 at 11:02 am

i too have had the same experience with these arrogant and ignorant fools.When i explain to them that my lawn is not their dogs toilet, they want to argue and carry on some discourse with me about how it's just pee or poo ...and they'll clean it up. the problem with that argument is twofold. 1.if they do it, every dog that walks by will want to leave their "scent" there as well....thats what dogs do. 2. there is no discussion needed. their rights end at my property line, period. I too have told them that i will follow them home, so i know where to return their dogs property....on their front porch.....or maybe in the front door everytime they put the key in , they can enjoy the aroma of their dogs butt

Posted by Nosy Neighbors
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Mar 2, 2010 at 11:18 am

Personally, I've rarely if ever encountered the inconsiderate, poop allowing dog owner as described by Frustrated, The Sprinkler lady & Sue. As a rule of thumb if your dog leaves a poop on anybody's personal property, lawn, public street, sidewalk, park field or even trail, you pick it up. I've seen plenty a dog walker at the Pleasanton Ridge, Iron Horse Trail & other parks give a swift kick to a fresh poop to move it to "safe area" where it will not impede anybody's safe passage. As far as peeing goes, you people are just plain barking up the wrong tree! I don't care how well you think your pooch is trained but trying to quell the 30-50 little pee-pee's that Fido/FiFi will inevitably squeeze out over the course of a good walk is practically impossible to stop.

Posted by dog lover
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Mar 2, 2010 at 12:28 pm

First off, walking on someone's lawn is not trespass. A front yard is not covered, it is thought that a front yard is an inviting place and unless there is a locked fence- it is not trespass until you have asked the person to get off of your property.
Secondly, walking a dog close the roadway is very dangerous and it is safer that you walk closer to the roadway and the dog to be on the inside. would you tell your children to walk on the outside or on the inside? it is the exact same idea for a pet. I agree with everyone, a dog owner should pick up poop if they do it on your lawn or property. However, telling a person that their dog cant pee on your lawn is outrageous. How do you suggest that an owner not allow a dog to pee in a certain place? There is no way to teach a dog to pee on your grass but not anyone else's. Also we should not discriminate between male or female dogs because of genetics of the pee. I am sorry that a female dog does damage to the lawn, but its not the dogs fault. If you dont want a dog on your lawn at all, put a fence up or plant bushes. If we are going to limit where a dog can walk, then lets discuss cats, which are NEVER on leashes and are allowed to pee and poop anywhere and no one seems to care about that. why do we argue over dogs but cats get off free?

Posted by Not Okay
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Mar 2, 2010 at 12:45 pm

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Posted by Responsible Dog Owner
a resident of Fairlands Elementary School
on Mar 2, 2010 at 12:48 pm

My 12 yr. old daughter was walking our black lab when he pooped on the sidewalk. When she realized she could not clean up the mess with the plastic bag she carried with her, she rang the doorbell of the home she was in front of and asked if she could use their water hose lying in front of the house to clean up the mess. Can you believe it - the owner yelled at her! So much for being a responsible dog owner!

Posted by Lucy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2010 at 12:52 pm

Well said, Attikai!!!!!!

Posted by Dog owner
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2010 at 1:19 pm

I have read thsi silly rants and I have to say I DON"T BELIEVE you people anymore! Nobody would yell at a 12 year old child that asked to use the water hose. That is a lie! You guys that say you ask very nicely and these rude dog owner curse at you and stuff. I think you guys went to far and blew all creditability. Nobody dumped feces in sunroof, or shot any pellet gun... I walk my dog all week and I pick up after him and never saw ANY attitudes like the ones your explaining. I dare you guys to do that to me! It would be worth you throwing a rock at me just to catch you cowards throwing a rock at my dog. I would kick in your door and beat your butt in front of your entire family..... Warning to all, drop the tough guys attitudes and realize we're just talking about alittle doggy doo and pee, and you guys are suggesting assaults and vandalisms

Posted by ss
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2010 at 1:32 pm

dog lover.....your a moron like the people i was describing.i too am a dog lover and have a dog i walk everyday. i do not however let her pee on peoples lawns because i decide where she goes via the leash in my hand. does your dog walk you?.....and my lawn is my property fenced or not, not yours or anyone else who thinks it is. dog pee destroys the grass and it's destruction of someone else's property when you do that.....gender of the dog makes no difference....and i've never heard of anyone having a problem with cats.....that comment is just justification of your bad behavior

Posted by Bubbles
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Mar 2, 2010 at 1:47 pm

The City of Pleasanton has a leash and poop ordinance...If you walk your dog off a leash or if you do not pick up the poop your sweet litte critters do, you are subject to citation and fine....

I plan to install a camera to find the careless dog owner or owners that watch their dogs poop on my property..I will then let the City handle it...that goes for the cat owner that opens the front door to let their cat out to poop in my yard, instead of opening their back door to have them poop in their own yard!

That is correct, I have nothing better to do with my time but to protect my investment! I will track you down and have you fined to the extent the law allows! :)

Posted by Character Of Community
a resident of Downtown
on Mar 2, 2010 at 2:02 pm


"I'm a bit confused.....when did common courtesey, manners and decency go out the window? I too was once a dog owner for over 20 years and I can tell you that I never once allowed my dog to uriniate/poop on anyone's lawn or property; because is simply rude and irresponsible as a pet ownerr"

My answers:

Right Wing Entitlement Mentality!

How about California as a TOTAL Right Wing State Full Of This I donr Give A S_ _ T If MY Precious DOD S_ _ Ts on YOUR Lawn!

Words Out:

“Hello Patriot RadicalPatriot,

Because of you fine, dedicated, bold people, the word is getting out about the P-town TEA Party!

This TEA Party is going to ROCK the Bay Area!

Let's TURN CA into a fully Conservative state! We CAN do this!”


Posted by Had enought
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Mar 2, 2010 at 2:17 pm

I live across the street from Kottinger Park. I enjoy watching the many residents who enjoy walking their dogs. The majority of walkers have their dogs on leaches and pick up after their dogs.
There are a couple neighbors, who do not leach their dogs and let them poop in the park without picking up. I reminded one neighbor about Pleasanton leach law and he just replied "so". That was sometime ago and he continues daily to run his dog unleached. One of these days I will get him sited by animal control.

Posted by long-time resident
a resident of Danbury Park
on Mar 2, 2010 at 2:20 pm

In the scheme of things (earthquakes, deep recession, unemployment, serious crime, etc.) is this that much of a big deal? If the pet owner doesn't pick up the mess, I can see asking them to walk their pet with baggies. I have a lawn, due to its location, that is used often by pet owners and their pets as they walk TO the park. I'm just glad people are walking their pets!

Can we all just get along?

Posted by dog walker
a resident of California Somerset
on Mar 2, 2010 at 7:21 pm

denise - laguna oaks is is between kottinger and laguna vista...the rest of us...thumbs up to Attikai!

Posted by Nosy Neighbors
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Mar 2, 2010 at 11:02 pm

...OK, "Character of Community" is apparently off his/her med's this afternoon. Just where do you see ANY political bent to this other than a cold shoulder from the A%$#@&E party?

Posted by Will track you down
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2010 at 11:24 pm

Pee makes BROWN spots on grass ! Lease your dog and keep IN the street...not our lawns.
It's very unfair for our grandchildren to go running across the grass...then squish !! Such barbarians. I've sat out all night to catch the ones that just turn loose their dogs at 4:30 - 5:00 when they wake up...but too lazy to leash them...thinking nobody will know who in the dark ! I sprinle pepper on lawn and buy some doggie OFF dry mixture at WalMart. I've also used paper towel and picked up and marched to each dood looking for that SIZE Cinderella's slipper fit !!! Neighbors tell me who has what size dog. One neighbor moved away shortly after I made a big deal out of it.

Posted by Will track you down
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2010 at 11:32 pm

What kind of sicko zealot starts irrelevant political trashing in the middle of doggie doo talk ? I don't like tea partiers, but such childish trashing ?

Posted by Jerry
a resident of Oak Hill
on Mar 3, 2010 at 12:21 am

Dog owner(Another Pleasanton neighborhood),

Think very carefully before "kick in your door and beat your butt". You never know what's on the other side of that door that could be hazardeous to your health...

Just a thought...

Posted by Lee
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 3, 2010 at 9:18 am

I too owned a dog for 18 years. You can't stop a dog from peeing when they want to, but you can pick up the poop! It is common curtesy to everyone else to do so.

As to dogs downtown in stores or restaurants, I think this is a health hazard and should not be allowed. Do you want fleas, hair and pee or poop near you or in your food? I don't think so.

There is an attitude among a lot of women here that their dogs should be allowed anywhere, even in someone else's home! They are DOGS, not KIDS! Not everyone wants their smell, hair, fleas etc. everywhere! Please ladies wake up!!

Posted by Dog Owner
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 3, 2010 at 10:34 am

Thanks for the warning Jerry, ok thought about it.... I would never kick in a door and enter a house to assault someone, because there would be additional charges on me that I don't want. I can take a simple assault charge and do no jail time at all. My point was that if someone responded with the rudeness and disrespect that was described above, there would be a very real fist fight soon following. I want to say, that I have changed my opinion on this topic. The other day a neighbor stopped and let his dog go poo on my lawn as I was leaving in the morning. I didn't mind because I too am a dog owner. But due to this thread, I will no longer accept this as normal. I will politely ask them to not stop on my lawn and if I get a response even close to those described above... I will resort to my childish mentality and square up with him. I'm not claiming to be a tough guy, or the toughest guy, but I'm not scared to defend my honor! And it DOES offend my honor when someone not only uses my lawn as a toliet, but disrespects me and talks down to me in the process...on my own property. So I would like to thank everyone who posted on here for changing me from a nice neighbor who overlooks missteps to a person ready for confrontation and a person ready to protect my property.

Posted by agree with Clem
a resident of Downtown
on Mar 3, 2010 at 1:19 pm

for Lee -- I could not agree more. There is nothing worse than sitting in a nice restaurant and having someone walk in with a pocket dog in a purse. It is against the health code! If you see any non-service animal in any place that serves food (this includes the sidewalk seating in downtown) you only need to take a photo on your cell phone and email it to the health department. They will cite the restaurant and can even close them down. It's a state law and P-Town has no say in the choice not to enforce it. I do not choose to eat my food with your dog's hair, fleas, filth or odor being a part of it.
It is also a state law that dogs are prohibited at the farmer's market. It has become more of a problem since the dog store opened right on the corner of the market. If the owner thinks that dogs in her store are so great maybe she can offer dog sitting so that the dog owners can go to the Saturday market without the mutts. If people continue to bring dogs to the market it will be shut down. What is it about Pleasanton people that they feel such entitlement to do anything and everything without regard for anyone else?
Leave the dogs at home! And when you walk them, pick up after them. Is that really so hard to understand?

Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Mar 3, 2010 at 2:05 pm

What rights do dogs and dog owners have?

Posted by Ann
a resident of Val Vista
on Mar 3, 2010 at 4:45 pm

Here is some information from the March 2010 issue of Valley Wilds:

I can’t say for sure why so many people are not picking up after their pets, but I can tell you why it’s so important not to leave pet fecal material on the ground. (And, this applies to cats, as well.)

Let’s consider what pet waste contains. Bacteria – According to the EPA, there can be over 20 million fecal coliform bacteria (E. coli being the most common bacteria in this group) in one gram (0.03527 ounce) of dog feces. When left on the ground, this fecal material, with all its bacteria, is likely to be spread far and wide. Someone will inevitably travel with it on the bottom of their shoe, perhaps depositing pieces of bacteria-laden fecal material in their home, car, and/or work place. This can be a threat for spreading disease, especially if there are young children in the home – from floor to fingers to mouth.

Some of the fecal coliform bacteria residing in pet waste left on the ground will inevitably end up in our waterways too, possibly contaminating a variety of aquatic environments.

It’s not just people who can get sick from the bacteria. Other pets and wild animals can also become seriously ill from being exposed to the bacteria in our pets’ fecal material.

Parasites and disease-causing organisms – There’s nothing like having some nasty little critters taking up residence in your intestinal tract or elsewhere in your body. Pet waste can contain a variety of disease-causing organisms including, Giardia (a parasite that causes diarrhea), Cryptosporidium (a protozoan parasite causing infection of the gastrointestinal system), Toxoplasma (a parasite found in cat feces that can be quite dangerous for pregnant women), hookworms, and roundworms. Again, many of these parasites can cause serious problems for other animals, too.

Nitrogen – We all know that plants can thrive with a nitrogen-rich soil. The problem with pet waste is that it has such extremely high concentrations of nitrogen that it actually can kill plants. When enough of it gets washed in streams, lakes, ponds, or any other body of water, the nitrogen can also harm animals in or on the water by creating unnaturally large algae blooms. As the algae decomposes the process uses dissolved oxygen. Decreased oxygen levels in the water can kill fish, frogs, aquatic insects and other wildlife.

Phosphorus – Like excessive levels of nitrogen, high levels of phosphorus also contribute to reduced water quality by promoting algae blooms. Again, these blooms lead to reduced oxygen in the water to the detriment of wildlife.

Aside from the health concerns associated with the contents of pet waste left on the ground, there are other considerations as well. Does anyone like walking on trails and sidewalks where abandoned pet fecal material is present? Of course not. No one likes their neighborhood or their parks to have this type of mess left behind. It reflects badly on the community overall and on pet owners more specifically.

In many places pet owners are legally responsible for picking up their animal’s fecal material. (The Livermore Area Recreation & Park District Rules and Regulations require pet owners to carry a container for collecting waste and to pick up after their pets when on District property.)

So, what can be done to remedy this growing problem? Here are some suggestions:

1) Raise awareness of health/contamination issues related to abandoned pet waste.

2) Ensure you are a responsible pet owner and always be prepared to collect and properly dispose of your pet’s waste.

3) Report violators. If you see owners leaving the material on the ground, report it to the proper authorities.

Posted by Dee
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 3, 2010 at 7:50 pm

I have two suggestions - one is that a dog can control when they urinate or they would never be house broken. If you used the water hose on that dog I can promise you that he would stop what he is doing immediately. Two be very nice to the person and find out her name or his name and put a sign on your lawn saying something to the effect that Mary please don't let your dog urinate on my lawn or John please be considerate and take your dog somewhere else to urinate. If the neighbors see the signs then the people will get embarrassed especialy if they think that the other neighbors are watching them to see if they will let it happen again. It is worth a try. No one likes to be embarrassed.

Posted by Another Gatetree Resident
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Mar 4, 2010 at 5:32 am

I also recall Jerry's prior post and a similar discussion. As a Dog Owner, I never let my dogs walk on other's lawns. They stay on the sidewalk or walk in the street with me, but I also use an old-fashioned 5'-6' leather lead, not the ones that give dogs FAR too much freedom.

I had a similar problem in my neck of the woods. I also took Jerry's lead and used either my sprinkler system or hose. The continual offender stopped their behaviors and in fact, they rarely walk Gatetree Circle anymore. I guess a wet dog was too much for them to handle.

Irresponsible pet owners like these give those of us who do take the responsibility seriously a bad name. That, more than the dog's behavior, is what pisses me off. Dogs only do what their "human" allows them to do.

Posted by guido
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Mar 4, 2010 at 11:26 am

I also had a problem I asked a lady please not to let her dog do his business on my lawn I told her to let him pee on her lawn and her answer to me was he likes your lawn I then told her that was rude and she said that I was rude and I said no you are rude. Some of these dog owners have no respect for peoples property. I also had a dog for 16 years and never let him mess on ANYONES lawns. I also take pride in my yards and it makes me so mad when these dam dogs do there business on my lawn

Posted by Another Gatetree Resident
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Mar 4, 2010 at 11:52 am

Another reason this keeps happening is the lack of overall training people do with their dogs. How many people actually know what HEEL actually means when walking a dog, let alone train to it?

Again, dogs only do what their "human" allows them to do.

Posted by ron
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Mar 4, 2010 at 6:56 pm

The solution is simple and it works. I had the same problem with a certain neighbor. His German Shephard would use my lawn and driveway as his personal toilet. One day after washing down the yard after mowing the lawn; Mr. German Shephard left his normal package. I proceeded to scoop it up and followed the dog and it's owner home. Once they enter the house I rang their door bell and when the owner answered I'd explained he had forgotten something and I deposited the Poop on his door mat and walked off. He was a slow learner as it happened again. So this time I scooped again and deposited his package over the fence into his pool... Problem solved, they now walk across the street and not a word has been said. Sometimes it takes a little more explaining to the groups that are thick between the ears!!

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