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BART agrees to add Pleasanton in its Livermore expansion planning

Original post made on Dec 2, 2009

In a welcome turnaround, BART officials this week agreed to include Pleasanton city representatives in planning an extension of the rapid transit system to Livermore, which could take the tracks through the northeast corner of Pleasanton.

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Posted by Robyn
a resident of Stoneridge
on Dec 2, 2009 at 8:24 am

Since most of the BART riders that board in Dublin are coming from the valley, it makes more sense to continue to tracks along 580, not going into downtown Livermore. People driving in from the valley should not have to drive to downtown Livermore to park and get on BART. It makes no sense. Plus, parking in downtown would be at a premium.

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Posted by MyBet
a resident of Country Fair
on Dec 2, 2009 at 9:26 am

They wouldn't go into Livermore. It just wouldn't be worth it as far as saving money and time. They would continue to go to Pleasanton's station and the highway would still be clogged everyday.

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Posted by Michael Leonard
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Dec 3, 2009 at 10:28 am

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I agree, BART should follow 580. Most of the riders who would get on at Livermore are coming from Tracy and beyond. Pleasanton needs to be included so we can be heard. No one is going to ride BART to downtown Livermore as a destination as some consultant was saying they should.

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Posted by dublinmike
a resident of Dublin
on Dec 3, 2009 at 12:45 pm

I grew up in Livermore in the sixties through the mid-sevenites. Discussions that I heard about the right of way were always along I580. It was assumed that a major rider source would be from over the hill.

So, it was a surprise to me when the idea came up for a route through Livermore was suggested. Didn't long for me to know of the stiff opposition forthcoming. I live about 2 miles from the BART tracks and can hear the trains when the weather conditions are right. Who the heck wants them coming through neighborhoods as it does now along most of the routes?

As for the consultant, fire them.

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Posted by Martin Isenburg
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 3, 2009 at 1:17 pm

The city of Livermore is holding three workshops to gather public input on the possible alignments and station combination for the BART extension. The first one was well attended and it seemed as if the audience’s opinion more or less converged on having two stations: One in downtown Livermore to serve the residents, to vitalize local businesses, and to spark sustainable transit-oriented development but with strict parking regulations to keep car commuter traffic out of downtown. The other one as far east as possible with ample amounts of parking to serve commuters from Mountain House, Tracy and beyond and ease congestion on I-580.

a pure I-580 alignment is something that i – and all urban planners and city officials i talked to – strongly dislike because it would mean to repeat the mistakes of (auto-centric) planning in the past. a BART station in downtown Livermore presents a unique opportunity to create a wonderful walkable community around downtown setting a textbook example for sustainable transit oriented planning in America. i already love what city has done during the redevelopment efforts of the past few years that have converted downtown from a four-lane freeway to a welcoming and cute destination. but it is still a downtown on life-support. there is no sustainable traffic throughout the day to support the kind of business you expect to find in a healthy downtown: produce stalls, a delicatessen, a small grocery store, a bakery, a cheese store, or a butcher. well done a downtown BART station could turn Livermore into a poster child for sustainable urban growth that promotes local business, healthy lifestyle, and walkable communities.

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Posted by Martin Isenburg
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 3, 2009 at 1:29 pm

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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Dec 3, 2009 at 1:53 pm

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Regarding bringing BART to downtown Livermore, I get it. The pure 580 route doesn't bring the transit to the people. Most of Livermore doesn't live along 580. To use BART they'd have to drive to 580, like most of Pleasanton and Dublin has to do. I love being able to take BART to downtown SF or downtown Berkeley and *bam* you're right near where you want to be. With BART in downtown Livermore, the downtown will thrive. So put BART down Portola.

Pleasanton (and all the Tri-Valley) benefits from extending BART out to Livermore. Only Livermore benefits from extending BART to downtown Livermore. Don't route BART on noisy elevated tracks past an already noise-sensitive neighborhood in Pleasanton when there is little benefit to Pleasanton in doing so. Unlike the Livermore airport, the neighborhood was here first.

It would have been great to have seen a Tri-Valley light rail system connecting the Tri-Valley downtowns. Make BART _regional_ as in the greater Bay Area region. Think Long Island Rail Road.

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Posted by Chuck Swanepoel
a resident of Mariposa Ranch
on Dec 3, 2009 at 4:53 pm

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I like the thoughts about inclusion of the others impacted by the routing decision. I don't think I can buy into the idea that BART would help the downtown area of Livermore. To make the station worth the cost, there needs to be enough riders going to or getting on at that station. To me that means high density housing or job based offices and/or industry. I would find either highly unlikely or desirable in downtown LIvermore. The other possibility is parking ramps and commuters driving to the station, which is also undesirable. In the BART develop plans they also talk about the possibility of links to ACE and HSR (High Speed Rail?). While there could be some additional people going to downtown Livermore, I also find it doubtful it would be during the week or thought of the destination by many people. All of this leads me to who would really benefit from a BART station in downtown Livermore? Not clear to me unless someone has property to sell or construction contracts to be won.

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