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More evidence of Obama's War Against the US...Read this Leaked Doc on Cap and Trade

Original post made by myra, Downtown, on Aug 30, 2009

Cap and Trade is not dead.

If taxpayers [contributors] know that cap and trade commits America to sending hundreds of billions of dollars per year to foreign governments for decades to come, they might not like it so much.

Here is info on the leaked document from the G20 Finance Experts Group.

Web Link

Remember McNerney voted for it, too.

This is an outrage. Cap and Trade will further bankrupt the US and will kill millions of jobs.

Comments (12)

Posted by Right
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 30, 2009 at 8:29 pm

Luckily, the Heritage Foundation has no agenda.

Posted by myra
a resident of Downtown
on Aug 30, 2009 at 10:08 pm

The Heritage Foundation's "agenda" is that America "change" in the direction our Founding Fathers intended...namely that America operates consistent with our Constitution.

Yes, that is a stretch for Obama since he is 180 degrees in opposition with our Constitution.

If you call that a troubling "agenda" then, by definition, you most likely have a problem with America...and are therefore a threat.

Posted by Right
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 30, 2009 at 10:17 pm

You can rest assured that I am no threat to America; nor is our elected President, Barack Obama.
BTW, have you heard of Thomas Jefferson?

Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Aug 31, 2009 at 12:13 am

Good call myra, Obamas change, which is really change by the powers behind the Central Banks(Obama is just a tool), is part of the Global Credit Crisis designed to transfer all of the remaining wealth and power to the International Banking Cabal.

Taken from the article:

"This leaked document is a litany of proposals for stripping financial sovereignty from the U.S. and other well-functioning economies for transferal to international organizations where the inept and kleptocratic get access to the wealth they prevent their own citizens from producing."

In order for the powers that be (international banksters) to achieve their one world government they have to destroy the middle class here in the USA. We are living through this distruction right here right now but the majority of the people are clueless as to what is at stake and refuse to accept the reality of the situation. The diabolical scheme has been years in the making. Recent actions designed to serve their agenda include the Bail Outs, Stimulus Plans, the Mortgage Bubble/Predatory Lending, Cash for Clunkers and the Global Warming Scheme which of course includes the Cap and Trade Tax Scheme.

They have a bag full of tricks to perpetrate against us and include the Laboratory engineered Swine Flu/poisoned vaccination ploy,GMO foods, Chem Trails and lets not forget the illegal wars and the endless money abuse involved with that. A war against terror will never end, and as by design, will bankrupt this country resulting in this country sinking to a third world country status. Why do you think we have open borders and so many illegal immigrants here? All of this and more serves the purpose of reducing our standard of living to the degree that there is no middle class period. The SUPER RICH and the POOR. It's easier to control the poor. Research the divide of wealth between the rich and the rest of us, the split is greater than ever before in our history and its not slowing down. It all boils down to ABSOLUTE POWER and CONTROL, nothing else will suffice the their appetites.

What do we have? A bunch of Brain Washed Sheeple programmed since birth with Blind Obediance To Authority that believe it can't happen in America. Sucker Dupes too adicted to the Greatest Weapon of Mass DECEPTION Ever, the TV,(BOOB TUBE) to search for the truth/facts.

I almost forgot, the United Nations(creation of the Banksters) said that they would use food as a weapon against humanity. They are doing that right now with GMO foods. Already in some countrys abroad and coming here soon is the Vitamin and Nutrient BAN. Thats right, vitamins will be considered as toxic. December 31 2009 is the date projected by the World Health Organization to be fully implemented world wide. Canada recently tried to pass this law but I don't know if they suceeded. Any doubts, research Codex Alimentarius(Food Code)which has been in existence since 1961 or 1963. It's all right there in black and white, and a whole lot more. Here is an artiocle, the first one that popped up on google using :vitamin and nutrient ban

[Portion removed; articles must be provided through links, not pasted into comments]

For more information go to:

Congressman Ron Paul's Website

Dr. Rath Health Foundation

Johathan Campell Health Alert

Web Link

Posted by james
a resident of Castlewood
on Aug 31, 2009 at 6:00 am

Dear Mr. Right (not):
If you believe that Obama is not a threat to America, then you simply are not paying attention (or are receiving your 'news' from the State-controlled mainstream media).

Posted by anonymous
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 31, 2009 at 6:49 am

Jefferson believed that a Constitution should reflect the citizens and as that reflection, recreated every generation.

Having said that, it amazes me how many people think they know what the founders thought, especially without having read their words. They were not a homogenous group. They had to work out their differences and they often changed their minds. Their world was much different and less global than ours.

Posted by concerned
a resident of another community
on Aug 31, 2009 at 8:00 am

so i'm sitting here, reading and taking in all this stuff, and having my usual bag of dorito's and diet dr pepper when it just hits me. Something about the dorito's has changed. Its subtle but definitely there. I check the date code - ok, i still have more than a year to go. I switch over to tepid water to cleanse my palate but no good, there's something wrong with these damn chips. My fingers are still orange but theres a dryness about the cheese when i rub them together. Definitely a blandness about the chip experience. Has anyone else noticed this and could there be a relationship to what was mentioned above?

Posted by Reads like a joke
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 31, 2009 at 12:25 pm

That document from the OP reads like a joke.

"This leaked document is a litany of proposals for stripping financial sovereignty from the U.S. and other well-functioning economies for transferal to international organizations where the inept and kleptocratic get access to the wealth they prevent their own citizens from producing."


"...are promising to give that very same money to the governments of China, India ..."

U. S. has a well functioning economy and India and China do not? I think somethings is backwards here.

Posted by Sheri
a resident of Mohr Park
on Sep 1, 2009 at 12:29 pm

Those of us that are informed were screaming against the "Cap 'n TAX" fraud against the American people...but we are powerless against the zealots with agendas. This is a way to steal our hard-earned dollars....not preventing a single particulant of carbon. Markey is owned by dirty coal and pumps our money back to coal any way he can. SO tragic that he's Chair of Energy, taking in the steady flow of payoffs from both coal and green zealots at Sierra Club. But US sucker taxpayers need to feel quilty and HELP are 'emerging' friends in China & India. Newsflash to to ignorant....they have EMERGED !! Where do you think our jobs have those emerging people who are WELCOMING to those "corportations" that PROVIDE JOBS and PAYCHECKS....that US ZEALOTS don't want here !!! BTW Ron Paul is NO solution to anything!

Posted by Roy
a resident of Vineyard Hills
on Sep 1, 2009 at 12:40 pm

At least we have learned the intent of "anonymous" ...wants to
"recreate" the gift of the Constitution our Founders gave to us.
It needs to be defended at times to be brought back on track but never 'recreated'. The powere starts with the people, up FROM the people, not from our temporarily elected people that have sworn to do what is right by us, but SO FEW do...they lie to us, abuse us, tax us to carry out their wishes, not ours. The power does not start top down....unless fools allow it.

Posted by dublinmike
a resident of Dublin
on Sep 1, 2009 at 2:47 pm

myra strikes me as a person using selective recall and hearing. The Founding Fathers were also slaveholders and denied women the right to vote.

But, back to the issue "Obama's War Against the US," I am not a fan of cap & trade nor the US signing the Kyoto Protocol for that matter.

According to AEI's website (I am not a fan of them, either): Thomas Crocker, who originated the idea of pollution trading under a cap, says, “I’m skeptical that cap-and-trade is the most effective way to go about regulating carbon.” Like my colleagues and me, he feels that if one’s goal is greenhouse gas reduction, a straightforward carbon tax would be more efficient than cap-and-trade.

Taxing pollution, by the way, is not new. My cost accounting professor at SJSU around 1976 (hardly a progressive by any definition) proposed this as an idea as a way to account for the REAL cost of manufacturing (told you he wasn't a progressive!).

But, trading away credits just opens the door for shenanigans.

Posted by Vicki
a resident of Canyon Oaks
on Sep 1, 2009 at 2:58 pm

It's a TAX like any other TAX. Except this tax will shut down companies (jobs) and more Americans will be out of paychecks. That will make the liberals happy, so they can make campaign promises to the UNemployed, that the dems will have the programs to ""take care "" of them. Programs yes, money NO!

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