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Afghanistan the forgotten War!!!

Original post made by Glen, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Aug 13, 2009

We continue to take huge casualties in Afghanistan and as the article explains August will be bloodier than July which was a record. Tell me again why Obama wants us there?

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Posted by J
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 13, 2009 at 3:02 pm

I believe the story I heard was that Bin Laden was believed to be harbored there

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Posted by Please
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 13, 2009 at 6:23 pm

Please take some time to read the OTHER topic on the war and do look at the oictures and video's, then make a decision about how you feel about the invasions.

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Posted by Glen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 13, 2009 at 7:51 pm

My point is that we need to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan now and very quickly. Did you read we have been fighting street to street for 2 full days and have barely gotten to the middle of the city. We cannot win in one does!!!!

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Posted by John
a resident of Del Prado
on Aug 13, 2009 at 8:31 pm

"At sunset, a Humvee mounted with a loudspeaker drove through neighborhoods the Marines had cleared, broadcasting to residents in their Pashto language that they could register complaints and get compensation for damage suffered in the fighting."

Blow the $hit out of everyone and destroy their homes, then compensate? Sorry you have no home, no husband, no wife, no child, but we thought there may be a bad guy here. Here is a thousand dollars! PATHETIC!

"Most residents appeared to have fled those neighborhoods. Most of those remained were elderly."

“Mostly Elderly” with no remaining family, but a few hundred US dollars! Pathetic!

"The people here are hostile to outsiders. Even if they're not all with the Taliban, they're against us," said Sgt. Hazibullah, who led an Afghan national army unit with the Marines. He gave only one name."

These people are hostile to outsiders blowing the $hit out of their town? Even if they are NOT Taliban (we blow the crap out of them) because they “are against us”

How firkin Pathetic!

You are correct Glenn, we need to BAIL NOW!

Instead of the uprising against the Health Reform, we need to rise up against these ridiculous invasions that are doing nothing for anyone and major harm to many.

REMEMBER the NAME of these illegal “wars”??

Operation Iraqi FREEDOM!




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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Aug 14, 2009 at 12:27 am

The truth? We are not there to win either war. Just like Nam and North Korea, we are there to sustain the wars. There is too much money to be made by sustaining these conflicks, for the Powers That Be. The International Bankers are the biggests winners. But there is plenty of others that get some of the action as well.The Bushs' and the Carlyle Group, General Electric, Blackwater, the Clintons and many more. Don't be fooled into believing it's to protect our alledged freedom, or spreading the "democracy thing", or it's all about the oil. POPPIES=HEROINE=CIA/BUSH/CLINTON/ETC.ETC.=$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
$. Last but not least, and by design, it serves the whole lot of them by Bankrupting USSA. And lets not forget that in a time of war, the Government gains more power over us as they spread fear the Sheople willing give up rights/privileges/freedom for alledged security. You can bet that there is more to it than this, but this covers the basics of why we are at war. Actually there is a plan for this and where it all leads to in the future. If you want to know what the future holds for all mankind, if the plan stays on course, check out "THE IRON MOUNTAIN REPORT". This plan began over 40 years ago. The video starts out slow, but stick it out, there is a good chance all of our lives/deaths will be determined from the success/failure of their plan. I am as serious as a heart attack, and I urge everyone to watch the video and Do Something. Thanks

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Posted by What?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 14, 2009 at 1:18 am

Mark, although I agree with some of your posts, this is a bit over the top!


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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Aug 14, 2009 at 1:57 pm

To What?,

I did provide a link to the IRON MOUNTAIN REPORT.
That is a rather long video but well worth the time. If I had the time I would have provided evidence, I'll try. The following link does provide essential evidence/info that every American ABSOLUTELY HAS TO HAVE. This is a must watch video that after watching just 3 minutes of it you wont be able to turn it off. Fast forward to 11 minutes 10 seconds and begin there. A two part video each about 20 minutes. When part two ends/cutoff you will be begging for more. All of you have 3 minutes to either become enlightened, and if not tell me to take a hike. JUST 3 MINUTES.

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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Aug 15, 2009 at 12:40 am

To What?,

Here is a link to a short video titled "CIA Torture Jet crashed with 4 Tons of COCAINE":Web Link There is plenty of info on the web that supports this fact.

The next link is titled "The Clinton Chronicles part 1 of 10":Web Link This is a must watch video. Part of this video lays out Clintons', Reagans' Bushs', and the CIAs' smuggling cocaine in to the USA and the trading of weapons with Iran and the Contras. The video is centered on Clinton though. The video goes way deeper than drug dealing. Many people were murdered to protect Clinton, his former body guards,his former best friend, his doctor and the list goes on and on. It involves crooked federal judges and attorneys. You have to watch this video, it is a shocker. You will see these criminals for what they are.

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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Aug 15, 2009 at 12:46 am

Another must watch video:"The Mena Connection".

An independent group of researchers in Arkansas are charging that Governor Bill Clinton is covering up an airport used by the CIA and major cocaine smugglers in a remote corner of the Ozark mountains. According to Deborah Robinson of In These Times, the Inter mountain Regional Airport in Mena,Arkansas continues to be the hub of operations for people like assassinated cocaine kingpin Barry Seal as well as government intelligence operations linked to arms and drug smuggling.

In the 1980's, the Mena airport became one of the world's largest aircraft refurbishing centers, providing services to planes from many countries.Researchers claim that the largest consumers of aircraft refurbishing services are drug smugglers and intelligence agencies involved in covert activities.In fact, residents of Mena, Arkansas, have told reporters that former marine Lt. Colonel Oliver North was a frequent visitor during the 1980's. Eugene Hasenfus, a pilot who was shot down in a Contra supply plane over Nicaragua in 1986, was also seen in town renting cargo vehicles.

A federal Grand Jury looking into activities at the Mena airport refused to hand down any indictments after drug running charges were made public.Deborah Robinson says that Clinton had "ignored the situation" until he began his presidential campaign." Clinton then said he would provide money for a state run investigation of the Mena airport. But according to Robinson, the promise of an investigation was never followed up by Clinton's staff. In fact, a local Arkansas state prosecutor blasted Clinton's promise of an investigation, comparing it to "spitting on a forest fire."

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Posted by KNOX
a resident of Sycamore Place
on Aug 17, 2009 at 10:58 am

Because the summers are better than Iraq and we get snow for Christmas.....yay!

Actually I really don't think we are going anywhere, when I was in Iraq we were living in fully constructed barracks and quite a few permanent foundation buildings were being put up. That was in '07. Pretty much everywhere America has ever fought a war there is a permanent duty station. Iraq and Afghanistan are soon to follow.

Also, by the "huge casualties" you mean the almost 19,000 Afghan civillians and Afghan troops killed right?

Besides the end of July through mid September are the killing seasons, that's when the weather is best to be out in. In the winter and Spring seasons there is always a huge decrease in fighting, mostly because of the obvious (it's friggin' cold and rainy) and alot of their Holidays are in those seasons.

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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Aug 17, 2009 at 3:30 pm

Afghanistan: Drug Addiction Lucrative for Neolib Banksters, CIA
By Kurt Nimmo
Global Research, May 21, 2006
Another Day in the Empire
"An American counternarcotics official was killed and two other Americans wounded in a suicide bombing in western Afghanistan today, while heavy fighting between Taliban insurgents and Afghan police continued in two southern provinces, officials said," reports the New York Times. "We confirm that a U.S. citizen contractor for the State Department Bureau of International Narcotic and Law Enforcement, working for the police training program in Herat was killed in a vehicle-borne I.E.D. attack," Chris Harris, an American Embassy spokesman, told the newspaper. After this mention, the Times moves on to detail the increasing violence between Afghan puppet police and "militants," that is to say Afghans fighting against the occupation of their country, an entirely natural occurrence.

Of course, the Times does not bother to mention that the Afghan opium trade--in fact much of the opium trade in the so-called "Golden Crescent" (Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan)--was cultivated and nurtured by the United States government and the CIA, leading to countless cases of miserable heroin addiction in America and Europe. Reading the Times, we get the impression the Taliban--at one time sponsored by the CIA and Pakistan's intelligence services, so long as they were kicking Russian hindquarter--are responsible for the opium trade all on their lonesome. As usual, the Times twists the story through omission.

"ClA-supported Mujahedeen rebels ... engaged heavily in drug trafficking while fighting against the Soviet-supported government," writes historian William Blum. "The Agency's principal client was Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, one of the leading druglords and a leading heroin refiner. CIA-supplied trucks and mules, which had carried arms into Afghanistan, were used to transport opium to laboratories along the Afghan/Pakistan border. The output provided up to one half of the heroin used annually in the United States and three-quarters of that used in Western Europe. U.S. officials admitted in 1990 that they had failed to investigate or take action against the drug operation because of a desire not to offend their Pakistani and Afghan allies," and also because selling heroin and spreading misery is highly profitable. In fact, the Soviets attempted to impose an opium ban on the country and this resulted in a revolt by tribal groups eventually exploited by the CIA and Pakistan.

"Reports issued by the UN and Drug Enforcement Administration in the early 1980s stated that by 1981 Afghan heroin producers may have captured 60 per cent of the heroin market in Western Europe and the United States. In New York City in 1979 alone, the year the CIA-organized flow of arms to the mujahiddeen began) heroin-related deaths increased by 77 per cent. There were no Superbowl ads that year about doing drugs and aiding terror. You could say that those dead addicts had given their lives in the fight to drive back Communism," write Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair.

Making sure heroin addiction continues unabated is such a lucrative business for the CIA and Wall Street investors, Bush decided "not to destroy the opium crop in Afghanistan. President Bush, who previously linked the Afghan drug trade directly to terrorism, has now decided not to destroy the Afghan opium crop," Charles R. Smith reported for NewsMax on March 28, 2002, as Bush's illegal invasion of the country was well underway. "Several sources inside Capitol Hill noted that the CIA opposes the destruction of the Afghan opium supply because to do so might destabilize the Pakistani government of Gen. Pervez Musharraf. ... The threat to overthrow Musharraf is motivated in part by Islamic radical groups linked to the Pakistani intelligence service, Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). The radical groups reportedly obtain their primary funding through opium production and trade." In fact, destroying the opium crop would have put a terrible financial squeeze on the agency and angered financiers who routinely trade in misery and death.

Naturally, the Times did not bother to mention the fact the Taliban attempted to eradicate opium production and this was likely one of the reasons Bush the Junior invaded Afghanistan. "Although the Taliban had virtually stamped out poppy production, the country now accounts for two-third of the world's heroin. As hard as it may be to believe, there is compelling evidence that the US (via the CIA) may be directly involved in narco-trafficing," notes Mike Whitney, who cites the following from Portland Independent Media:

Before 1980, Afghanistan produced 0% of the world's opium. But then the CIA moved in, and by 1986 they were producing 40% of the world's heroin supply. By 1999, they were churning out 3,200 TONS of heroin a year--nearly 80% of the total market supply. But then something unexpected happened. The Taliban rose to power, and by 2000 they had destroyed nearly all of the opium fields. Production dropped from 3,000+ tons to only 185 tons, a 94% reduction! This enormous drop in revenue subsequently hurt not only the CIA's Black Budget projects, but also the free-flow of laundered money in and out of the Controller's banks.

It also put a pinch on the criminals and gangsters in Pakistan. "The Taliban's actions ... (destroying the opium crop) severed the ruling military junta in Pakistan from its primary source of foreign revenues and made bin Laden and the Taliban completely expendable in the eyes of the Pakistani government. It also cut off billions of dollars in revenues that had been previously laundered through western banks and Russian financial institutions connected to them," explains From the Wilderness. "Prior to the WTC attacks, credible sources, including the U.S. government, the IMF, Le Monde and the U.S. Senate placed the amount of drug cash flowing into Wall Street and U.S. banks at around $250-$300 billion a year," not exactly small potatoes.

In 2004, according to research conducted by the Democratic Policy Committee, after "decreasing dramatically under the Taliban regime, Afghanistan now [2004] produces nearly 3/4 of the world's opium. CIC [Center for International Cooperation] found that 'opium production, processing, and trafficking have surged, with revenues equaling roughly half of the legal economy of Afghanistan.' It is estimated that 1.7 million people, or 7 percent of the total population now grow poppies," all of this under the United States installed government of Hamid Karzai, the ex-Unocal employee.

But then none of this should be surprising--the CIA and neolib financiers and moneymen have long dabbled in drug dealing and drug addiction profiteering.

In addition to turning immense profits for societal parasites and other cockroach infestations on Wall Street, drug dealing is a great way for the government to intervene in the business of other nations, as Oliver North well understands (as the Contra was funded by the smuggling of cocaine). "The CIA functionally gains influence and control in governments corrupted by criminal narco-trafficking. Politically, the CIA exerts influence by leveraging narco-militarists and corrupted politicians... This is really NEO-narco-colonialism, whereby local criminal proxies do the bidding of the patron government seeking expanded influence. But because of the quid-pro-quo of protecting the criminal proxies' illicit pipelines, the result is still a functional narco-colonialism, involving a narcotics commodity in the actual practical execution of policy, with the very different twist of covert action," summarizes the CIA & Drugs website,

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So it is not surprising, as the New York Times puts it, there is a "Sudden Rise of Violence in Afghanistan" and the predictable murder of "a U.S. citizen contractor for the State Department Bureau of International Narcotic and Law Enforcement." In Afghanistan, the Hegelian dialect is working overtime--the U.S. government engineers the Afghan opium trade, thus resulting in social problems and violence associated with illicit drug distribution and consumption, and then turns around and organizes police training programs to combat the scourge it has spawned.

As well, for the Fabian socialist globalists, it is a great way to break down borders and implement "free trade zones," that is to say unhindered thievery zones. Call it a "war on drugs" or the endless war against "terrorism" (yet another Hegelian contrivance), it is all engineered to turn the world into a large slave plantation ruled by a decadent and debased elite cadre of neoliberal criminals.

Kurt Nimmo is a photographer and multimedia developer in Las Cruces, New Mexico. Nimmo is a contributor to Cockburn and St. Clair's, The Politics of Anti-Semitism. A collection of his essays for CounterPunch, Another Day in the Empire: Life in Neoconservative America, with an introduction by Jeffrey St. Clair is now available through Dandelion Books: $17.95 trade paperback. He can be reached at:

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