Police and fire salaries and particularly their pensions and retiree medical benefits are putting the city in a totally untenable position. We have over $120 million in deferred unpaid liabilities. Someone has to bell this cat.

Aaron,

Dude, get your facts straight. It wasn't the PPD officer it was a Alameda Police officer. Ronald R. Jones is an a administrative sgt. with a history. See Contra Costa Times and the KABC --7 news.

aaron,

Please check facts before you create such an erroneous posting. You obviously have a computer and could have looked it up yourself.

I believe you owe the Pleasanton Police Department a retraction and an apology.

Thank you PJ, I totally agree. The PPD for the 25 years I have lived here have done a good job keeping my family safe. I might not agree with all their decisions on the community policing policies, I believe they are far from being corrupt or renegade in any way.

Aaron is the typical Obama supporter... Uniformed!

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i apoligize if i was ill informed. thats why i asked for clarification.
cholo, you are a idiot, grow up.

but still this is a problem that needs to be overseen. the burglaries in pleasanton are real, are they caught, it's been two months now. no they aren't. but the alameda county sheriffs dept. caught the castlewood murderer.
how many remember the ppd officer who beat his wife, and the police refused to break down his door. definate double standard. all plice have some issues. it is the publics duty to address these actions. if we don't, who will?

Hooray!! You finally got smart P.W. and shut down a "Cholo" post!!! I have stayed away from reading the Forum, (as well as several of my friends and neighbors) for a long time, because I was so sick and tired of Cholo's rants and provocations. Ding Dong the Witch is dead! Which ole witch? The Wicked Witch!! la la la lala la la la! =)

Ha ha Chump-lo

I did not post anything.

Generally speaking, I think the PPD does a great job and that's why we live here. But I am getting concerned with the laid back attitude they are taking with the high school kids and their parties.

Kids are getting more and more out of control, yet very litte is being done. If parents seem to be able to find out where all the parties are every weekend, how is it, they seem to go undected by the PPD?

It's as if we are sitting back and waiting for the next kid to wrap their car around a tree on Foothill Rd. before we do anything. Let's be proactive, not reactive!

for concerned: I hope that your kids were under your control at all times. I agree that the PPD should take swift and aggressive action against any kids having large and noisy parties where drinking is taking place. However, the real problem is the parents. Any parent who cannot control their kids needs to be severely punished. You had them now YOU get them under control. Kids who never have discipline are a scourge on society and the parents who allow that are even worse.
The PPD has more important things to do than responding to a party that the parents should never have allowed to happen. If your kids cannot be trusted when you are gone then STAY HOME. If parents allow the party when they are home then the PPD needs to arrest and prosecute the parents. Enough of letting out of control kids ruin things for everyone else.

Yes the PPD does have more important things to worry about then teen parties. They have to meet their quota for cell phone abusers or so it seems. It's pretty pathetic when at a dinner party 3 of the women there were pulled over for allegedly using their cell phones while driving. In each instance, the officer was extremely rude,judgemental, and WRONG!Each woman got pulled over and told that they were breaking the law. After the officer checked their phone logs finding out that he was wrong, he continued to be accusatory and judgemental, "what do you mean you don't know why your hand was near your ear?" So be careful, don't even think of scratching your ear, adjusting your earring or touching your hair unless you want to spend the next 15 minutes being harrassed by a PPD officer. Then spend another 15 minutes explaining to the children in my car why they should always be respectful to officers when they ask why the officer who pulled me over was very condescending to me.For all the great things the Dare program teaches the kids in this town it's unfortunate that the only officers that the children here respect are just those few that come to their schools. And yes, I know there are plenty of drivers here in town who use their cell phones while driving. I'm just wondering why the Pleasanton Police have to act in such a disrespectful way.

I learned a long time ago that cops are predators, not protectors, so it doesn't surprise me that the pleasanton cops are any different.

cops aren't being paid to protect you, they are paid to uphold the laws, and they have a LOT of discretion about how they do that.

you are all at risk, so be careful around these uniformed goons. a god complex comes with the badge and gun.

Word: Cholo
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural cholos
Etymology: American Spanish, Europeanized Indian, mestizo
Date: 1851
1. Often disparaging : a man or boy of Mexican descent
2. A Mexican-American youth who belongs to a street gang



Which describes you? You seem to have a lot of hate and distrust in your soul.

Pleasanton is a wonderful community - as is your home town of Livermore.

You paint a broad brush when you say "I learned a long time ago that cops are predators, not protectors".

Should we categorize all police as 'predators', if even just 1 goes astray? Should I believe all those identifed as a Cholo, are nothing but violent gang members because 'some' are?

You do nothing to move discussion forward.

Oh get over it "harrassed", I was nearly hit again in the crosswalk yesterday by a cell-phone-yapping soccer mom in her SUV. I would be happy to have guilty yappers forfeit their driver's license rather than get a no-points violation with a nearly zero dollar fine. I have encountered many PPD officers in my years of living downtown and have had exactly one instance of rudeness. I took his name, called the watch commander and got an apology. Maybe you should check your attitude out, that might be the problem.

Resident- It appears the only one here with the attitude is you. I didn't mind accidentally get pulled over, what bothered me was the attitude of the police officer. I guess you haven't lived here very long. After living here in town for 40+ years, I have had many pleasant experiences and a few not so pleasant experiences. In the last month I've been pulled over twice by the same officer. Both times he was rude. The first time he pulled me over he was incorrect as well. He tried to tell me that I needed to make a complete stop at a yield sign and while a construction worker was directing me to continue through. He told me I should know better "driving around with all these children" He didn't even bother to apologize when he realized he was wrong. It sure makes for a good life lesson for the children in my car. Especially the one who wants to be a police officer, he stated that maybe he wouldn't be one anymore. He didn't want to have to be a jerk to people like that officer. I guess the other 2 women who were also harrassed by officers,we're not sure if it was the same one or not, should watch their attitudes as well. That will solve everything. It must be us, not the PPD.

It seems that the imposters are in love with Cholo...Hooray!

There is only one Cholo and I am I. As for the police, they are My Heroes! Yup...go officers.

The realer McCoy here....tee hee hee, tee hee hee...

Aaron,
You are what is wrong with the left winged democratic press...uniformed, quick to accuse and completely bias. This is a great way for you to damage someones character, especially someone as dedicated as Officer Jones. Perhaps you should write a formal apology letter to the officer before you are sued for defamation of character.

Hey Lady who thinks the cops are disrespectful. What do you think the attitude of all the rich snobs driving their kids two blocks to school is when they get stopped by PPD....Not great. "I can't be bothered, the laws don't apply to me, I'm late for a nail appointment." Get real..wait until your little kid is hit by a car and the cops are not aggressive to that driver...then what. "I hate the PPD cause' there not aggressive enough enforcing the traffic laws. If you want to teach your kids, sign the ticket and take them to court with you, you ignorant @#%$#@.

I am absolutely disgusted by Aarons comments. He obviously knows nothing about a case of an Alameda police sergeant being arrested and he has implied that a good man who works for the Pleasanton police is responsible for a crime he did not commit. I read the forums and know that Aaron does not think highly of the PPD, but that does not excuse his ignorant postings. I have lived in Pleasanton for over 30 years and have respect for all police officers. As with every profession, there are good and bad people.

Has Aaron ever considered what it must be like for police officers to do their job? To know that they may not come home to their family when they leave for work. To have to live with the fact that they may have to shot and kill someone. Maybe Aaron has done things in his life to have bad encounters with police, I myself, have only have good encounters with the PPD. I respect them and admire their ability to do a job not everyone can do.

Most of these postings are a joke!!! It was in fact an Alameda PD Sergeant in charge of Internal Affairs that was arrested and charged for the scam of obtaining prescription meds from deceased person's homes... He had a disease...bottom line! The rest of you idiots whining about getting cell phone tickets (well deserved) and having cops respond to teen parties are people that probably should not be parents in the first place and need to open your F'N EYES... Grow up already!! You want to see what cops really have to face on a daily basis and have nightmares about weekly? Come to my city and ride along for a day... and never forget the four decorated OPD Officers that gave their lives for the citizens of that disgusting city that has such little respect for law enforcement or life for that matter...at all! I worked as a cop in this city for 1 year after working in a busier city for several years and moved on to another bigger and more violent city. I voluntarily left because of the disgust I felt after dealing with this exact mentality.. and especially dealing with parents wanting me to parent their kids!!! Really???? Please!!! I pray for all of you that only have these little problems to gripe about... Live happily in your bubbles people...there actually is a real world out there... a real violent one. May God and our police officers on duty protect all of us... always!!!

A brother officer

At first, I didn't believe you were an officer. After reading your post, you convinced me. I have always had a fear that police officers thought like you. Thanks for confirming that not ALL cops are GOOD COPS....Look at the way you 'think' about the people you have sworn to protect. What was your score on the pych-test? And one more question, where do you work? I need to stay clear from YOU!

Told like a realist and not sugar coated! I like it! I think we need more cops like that one! They seem like they like taking BAD guys off the street and making it a safe place for all of us to live. What color is the sky in your world criminalminded? I think that officer and all officers are protecting all of us, especially by enforcing the laws people break no matter how small; cell phone users included! Besides, that bubble comment is pretty right on for this area. May every police officer be safe and protect us all!

Well said...here is a clip for people who just don't get why the police are here...

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i origionally heard it on kron 4. saying it was pleasanton. so oh well to everyone getting so angry over this. bottom line is there are some great cops out there. but definately not all of them. i've seen these "heroes" commit crimes against it's citizens for years. they've stolen money, drugs, made up charges to steal a night of fredom if they don't like the people involved. the only thing that changes is the name badge. i never give any officer a hard time as there is no need to. i don't do anything to provoke them. you don't tease a jackle, you might get bit. they are simply dong there jobs. but every few years or even months it seems like, we get a prime example. and not just this case. cops do take drugs from criminals. they do use them. in fact i can specifically remember one officer of pleasanton who use to go to the bars and this part is confirmed, go to the afterparty, watch people do them and then get intimate with certain females after. did you know most drugs are only in your system for 48 hours. most police would have this out of there system prior to any testing. so i guess getting ones rocks off is more important than getting the rocks off the street.
i really do appreciate our city, and yes those who make it happen. but enough is enough. i'm no whistleblower, but maybe just maybe people will pay more attention. then the problem will fix itself.
i have police in my family, and they agree. the community has to get angry enough for anything corrupt to end. the department will overlook certain things just like a business will in order to protect an image. i have to agree with the concern on why do we spend so much on police toys? they don't need new cars every couple years. why increase our police force? has our crime really increased? or are they simply looking for more dui revenues? i mean really is that one of the only crimes people are charged with hear. really why not try this idea. drinking and driving are illegal, make it a factory mandate to have breathalyzers in all vehicles. i believe the legal limit was lowered recently. so what's the point. how many lives would that save? how many manhours of checkpoints and dealing with these would we save? we might even be able to fcocus on real crimes, if the police are chasing drunks. shoot we would even be able to save money on our funding. it costs alot of money to set up those checkpoints, and supply the officers to work it. plus the others surrounding the area to catch the ones avoiding a checkpoint. this really is the easiest solution and most practical. But i'm not expecting any change. the only thing that changes is how must the dui people are paying along with their punishments, and the amount of tax dollars wasted chasing this problem. when we could all avoid this very easily. seriously politicians really should look at that and mandate the auto companies to make it happen.
i do respect police. i do respect authority. but what happends when they don't respect you? a b.s blog goes out. our crime is very low. our number of officers should reflect that. not in a sense of hiring more but keeping it where it is at.

Hey Dan...

That bubble comment made above is directed at people like you! Wake up dude! DUI's?? Is that your concern in the world or are you just worried you're going to get caught? The legal limit always has been .08% BAC, so deal with it. Most of that money in DUI checkpoint paychecks you worry so much about comes from Federal and State grant money directed at enforcing DUI laws indirectly funded by MADD and other anti-DUI victim groups. SO, before you get your nuts in a ringer, you may just want to educate yourself before you look like an fool on here. And, you might want to take a look at the most recent casualty..our own CA-Angels...NICK ADENHART! Gee, that driver had prior DUI's.... now he's up on murder charges... I say HANG EM'... HANG EM' HIGH... AND let's set the example and move forward! THE END. Don't ever write anything on here again until you educate yourself first!

look at the long trail of wasted money. organizations that are so hung up on their agenda, they avoid a much better solution.

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