Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 3:16 PM
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Alleged molestation case continued again
Original post made on Sep 10, 2008
Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 3:16 PM
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a resident of another community
on Sep 10, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Thank you Emily for your outstanding journalism...
I was in court today and was captivated by the audience. It seems that you have a bunch of Desperate Housewives and their over-privileged daughters in there just looking for attention. These young ladies were more than likely not victims but wanted the gossip needed to boost their reputation at the Clubhouse. If you believe he is guilty then dress appropriately for court and listen to the facts of the case. You don't need permission from your best friend, the Paris Hilton lookalike to make the decision for you. This is not gossip, this is about the lives' of many people that have or will be destroyed or impacted by this case. If you truly believe this man is innocent then read the docket, the victim statements and conclude your own truth. These documents might make you reconsider your opinion about Mr.Germain. If these victims are lying, then Castlewood has much bigger problems than missing tennis practice.
a resident of Livermore
on Sep 10, 2008 at 5:10 pm
I doubt that the people that were in court today are "Desperate Housewives". You seem to have very little appreciation for the American system of justice. I don't recall reading anything about "over-privileged" citizens not being welcomed in a court of law. Do you have a full deck or what"
Unless you have a crystal ball that works, why not just shut up about what young women wear. It's none of your business so keep you crap to yourself. If the Judge determines that some people are dressed inappropriately, those people will be dismissed. Nobody needs you advice on this matter control freak! The Judge will make the determination.
Young ladies, see you in court!
And, if anybody is gossiping, it's you "Integrity". The dignity of the court is more important than anything you have to say. In short, SHUT UP!
a resident of Carlton Oaks
on Sep 10, 2008 at 5:12 pm
What good news to read that Henry remains behind bars. Sorry child molester cheerleaders...his goose is cooked!
a resident of another community
on Sep 10, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Ahh, I was waiting to get somebody worked up and it only took 30 mins. My post was not my opinion at all. As a matter of fact I'm a huge advocate for victims and their rights. My point was to post the initial reaction from a lot of people about this case. In addition, it is my understanding that Mr.Germain used the affluence and reputation of Castlewood to silence his victims. He manipulated them to think they deserved to be abused because of their more fortunate circumstances. Victims don't have to be poor and live in low socioeconomic communities and perps aren't creepy loners. I wanted to put a spin on this case that I know people were thinking but did not say. We all want to think it will never happen to us and this case is more proof that we need to take care of ALL of our children not just some of them...God Bless each and every person effected by the actions of Mr.Germain
a resident of Livermore
on Sep 10, 2008 at 7:00 pm
To Cholo, a Livermore resident. If you weren't in court today to see what Integrity reported, then SHUT UP.
a resident of Castlewood
on Sep 10, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Count me in on getting worked up by your comments and I'm irritated that I feel the need to respond...
I too was in court and am probably what "Integrity" might have referred to as the "Desperate Housewives" and their "Paris"-like children.
How very judgemental to make sweeping generalizations about people you've most likely never met. Most of those people, young and old have been friends of Henry and the tennis community for years. Most are upstanding citizens, good people and their membership of a club does not make them "gossip hounds" or attention-seekers as you suggest. Most were there to show support for the ENTIRE situation and attempt to gather information about this tragedy that has and will continue to rip apart our community.
As your name suggests you are all about "Integrity", so I'm sure you meant nothing hurtful by your comments. Now, I'm off to share gossip and boost my reputation at the Clubhouse...
a resident of Livermore
on Sep 10, 2008 at 8:15 pm
How do you know that I wasn't there? People mistake me as a "white" person all the time. I can pass for "white" quite easily!
I have a hunch that "Integrity" meant exactly what was posted.
I'm gathering that there are lots of males in PTown that truly hate women with mature adult needs. The language used to describe young women is not so much a joke as consistent with how many Plutonian males perceive attractive young women pieces of meat with eyes that blink.
It's this process of dehumanization of women that can lead to their victimization. Tragic...
a resident of another community
on Sep 10, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Finally! People that are ready to defend themselves. I have seen little of this since since this story broke. I feel honored to be the one to get you mad. I hope you take all of that anger and use it to fight against child abuse in a productive manner. It shouldn't take an act like this to get people more involved in social issues and crime. Castlewood may not have the heavy crime rate like other cities in Alameda County but that does not mean they deserve to have their children sexually violated.
Anyone can be a victim. the problem is that our society has to find a way to justify why it won't happen to them. If we spent as much time protecting our children as we do criticizing victims I wonder how much safer we ALL would be...
I hope that when all of this is over, more people do unite together to help fight abuse against children. From Oakland to Castlewood, we are all able to make a difference.
a resident of Livermore
on Sep 10, 2008 at 8:34 pm
Sorry Integrity, it doesn't fly.
I think that you hate mature as well as attractive young women. That's
how your post came across and I think that you meant what you said.
It's OK with me, you don't need to deny your post. It's who you are.
All best,
Cholo
a resident of another community
on Sep 10, 2008 at 8:34 pm
BTW...Sorry to disappoint you. I really do hate stereotypes and how we victimize our victims in order to justify our own insecurities. Trust me, anger gets people more involved. Look at John Walsh and Ed Smart. Both of these men lived in "safe" neighborhoods with their families, yet they both had children sexually and physically victimized in a horrific manner. I'm sure they never thought it could happen to them.
Today, both of these men have dedicated their lives to protecting children. Do you think they would have done this if their children were never violated? Sad as it is, probably not....
a resident of another community
on Sep 10, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Fact is that I am a mature young woman and I am criticized all the time for being book smart and street stupid. I should just be quiet and not say anything because I can get away with being "pretty". BUT I'm also a victim of sexual abuse and sexual harassment. I know how these girls feel because I have been there. I have been through being blamed and verbally attacked because I should have said something earlier or I "deserved it". I endured abuse on a regular basis but I never filed charges because I listened to everyone else that said it wouldn't matter because my perp was a very prominent member in the community. I have learned to use my anger to fight against abuse. If nothing else, thanks for your encouragement....
a resident of Castlewood
on Sep 10, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Cholo is Spanish language slang term applied to individuals of mixed American Indian and Spanish ancestry. However, its precise usage has varied widely in different times and places. It is used in the masculine and neuter; the feminine form in Spanish (and sometimes in English) is chola.
The term's use is first recorded in a Peruvian book published in 1609 and 1616, the Comentarios Reales de los Incas by Inca Garcilaso de la Vega. He writes (in Spanish) "Cholo is a word from the Windward Islands; it means dog, not of the purebred variety . . . . the Spaniards use it for insult and vituperation"[1]
In Colonial Mexico, the terms cholo and coyote co-existed, indicating mixed Spanish and Amerindian ancestry, or a poor background, or both.
Cholo as an English-language term dates at least to the early 1900s, derived from the Peruvian reference mentioned above. Isela Alexsandra Garcia of the University of California at Berkeley writes that the term can be traced to Mexico, where in the early part of the last century it referred to "culturally marginal" mestizos, or people of mixed Spanish and Native American origin.[2]
An article in the Los Angeles Express of April 2, 1907, headlined "Cleaning Up the Filthy Cholo Courts Has Begun in Earnest", uses the terms cholos and Mexicans interchangeably.[3] The term cholo courts was defined in The Journal of San Diego History as "sometimes little more than instant slums as shanties were strewn almost randomly around city lots in order to create cheap horizontal tenements."[4] The use of the term in these articles indicates that it meant simply poor Mexicans.
The term has two somewhat different meanings, one in the United States, Canada and Mexico and another in the rest of the Americas.
FYI-
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Sep 10, 2008 at 9:23 pm
hey integrity,
i was one of those "over privileged daughters". i wasn't abused by henry though i've known him since i was about 8. i also wasn't there to gossip. i went there because i've been hearing all sorts of things about the case so i wanted to hear for myself what was going on and i wanted facts. i'm sorry if my attire offended you. i just graduated from high school and your initial comment sounded more like high school gossip than anyting else.
a resident of San Ramon
on Sep 10, 2008 at 11:45 pm
you go "over privilaged daughter"! mature comments from an 18 yr old.
i'm just curious, can anyone who was present today describe how Henry appeared to be? how long did the proceedings take? was anything new presented other than a postponement? for all you Henry supporters, do you think your presence was comforting to him or was it maybe embarrassing?? how likely is it that a plea will be entered on friday? for all we know another postponement maybe in the cards.
a resident of another community
on Sep 11, 2008 at 5:42 am
I thought Cholo meant dumb _ss!
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Sep 11, 2008 at 7:07 am
well, this guy made it to imascumbag.com
a resident of Livermore
on Sep 11, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Some of your madness is pretend and some is very real...your explanation does not fly.
a resident of Castlewood
on Sep 11, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Thank you "curious" I'm curious too!!! Did anyone go to court Wed. aThey were great questionsnd could you please respond to "curious's" questions. Thank you! They were great questions....
a resident of Castlewood
on Sep 11, 2008 at 8:17 pm
i went to the club meeting and feel way more informed about these type of crimes. the sheriff's office put on a great presentation. we need to put this behind us and move on. i hope people will encourage victims to come forward. they will for sure have community support. we are lucky to have such professionals serving our community.
a resident of another community
on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:22 am
I happen to be friends with one of the victims and it makes me sick to hear all the hurtful things that are being said about her and the other victims. It's a shame that this had to happen, however, it wasn't the girls' choice to be put in this predicament. Mr. Germain made a decision to do something very wrong and whether he did it yesterday or 10 years ago doesn't make it right. Every action has a consequence, he dug his hole and now he should lie in it. We should all feel better knowing that yet another scumbag is behind bars and I hope he stays there! He deserves nothing less. He has turned my friend's life upside and inside out and I can't imagine what it would be like growing up with such a dark secret that tears you apart. How dare anyone attack these girls and their integrity. They have done NOTHING wrong. They were little girls who were taken advantage of, their trust betrayed, and they finally have the strength and courage to come forward.
a resident of another community
on Sep 12, 2008 at 1:35 am
** Let me preference this by saying that I do believe that Germain is guilty and I believe that with the evidence released as of now the burden is on him to prove his innocence **I attended the hearing on Wednesday. I am a member of the Alameda county chapter of BACA (Bikers Against Child Abuse). We are a non-profit organization (www.bacausa.com) that helps families and children feel safe and protected in cases of abuse. We provide various resources to children in abused situations and we ride for their cause. See the website if you are interested :)
Anyway,in regards to the audience it was a bit different from what you “normally’ might find in a criminal court but just because you might have money it does not mean you are protected from sick men like Germain. If anything it makes you more susceptible because it's easier to put your guard down when crime is not a constant in your environment. In my opinion, the support demonstrated for the victims appeared to be sincere from the people in the room. I can say that most of the courtroom was there for this case and they seemed concerned and genuinely interested in the outcome of what was going to happen to Germain. There was one woman near me that consulted with Germain's lawyer but other than her, Germain did not seem to have any other support in the room. As for Germain, his physical appearance was a bit disheveled but his demeanor seemed calm, cool and collected. Maybe a little bit of stress because he never once looked our way but my opinion was that he also seemed to have an air of arrogance. He only spoke to confirm that his vehicle could be released to the woman next to me. I will not print her name because even if she is there for Germain, she doesn’t deserve to be attacked. This case is about him. Then it was all over and he was gone and so was most of the courtroom…Anyway, I could be wrong but this is just my humble opinion of the question asked about his appearance in court :)
a resident of another community
on Sep 12, 2008 at 8:31 am
BACA-Henry didn't have an air of arrogance-ignorant description-typical of all the people who think this case is like all of the others. And why wouldn't the support for the victims be sincere? I really wish people would refrain from stating how sick Henry he is if you have never met him-you know nothing about him or any sickness. If found guilty, he will have to deal with his sickness and the justice system will see to that.
Your support group is great, but you being in the courtroom is for your benefit and no one elses! Outside the courtroom is where your support is welcomed.
Find a brain and do what is best for everyone!
a resident of Castlewood
on Sep 12, 2008 at 9:57 am
As a Castlewood homeowner and member. I am disgusted at this entire situation. Wait until the lawsuits start coming down. Then we will see JUSTICE.
a resident of Castlewood
on Sep 12, 2008 at 11:49 am
Any news on how the court appearance went today?
a resident of Golden Eagle
on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:01 pm
I knew one the the girls as well, I was very close to her during that time and I don't believe any of it. She has always had problems and has lied. People don't change. I feel sorry for Mr. Germain and his family, when all these girls probably wanted was to get money.
a resident of Castlewood
on Sep 12, 2008 at 12:12 pm
If you attended the meeting last night put on by Castlewood you would know that all these young women asked for was for Henry to be let go by the club. They are to be believed as no women would go through the potential days in court etc for any amount of money. The have not filed any lawsuits against Henry. What about the other people who have now come forward? They looking for money too?
a resident of another community
on Sep 12, 2008 at 1:22 pm
Dont Believe - I'm with you! Henry has helped more people in this world then all of these stupid posters combined ever will!
a resident of another community
on Sep 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Hey Kweb- ever heard of the term "In my opinion" or that I had already stated I felt that Germain was guilty? I’m not giving him the benefit of the doubt because I have done my homework. First, read the public record about this case. Read the statements that Germain said and the victim statements, it’s all public record. I don't need to know about Germain to know his sickness, it’s all on record. Second, Child molesters reoffend. I would NEVER depend on our system to rehabilitate sex offenders. Studies have found that reconviction rates for child molesters are around 20% (Quinsey, Rice, and Harris, 1995). In addition, many victims of sexual assault are reluctant and do not report their victimization to the police (Germain’s case in point). For these reasons, relying on rearrest and reconviction data underestimates actual reoffense numbers. More than likely the actual number is much higher than reported. Lastly, I’m in court to help children, parents and the public. I help fight against child abuse, do my research, offer resources where victims lack support, volunteer my time and I strive to protect victims' from people like you.
Until you can contend with me with the same support for Germain I would suggest that you do not comment on my opinion.
a resident of Downtown
on Sep 12, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Does anyone know what happened today at court?
a resident of another community
on Sep 12, 2008 at 3:35 pm
First off, I am offended of how integrity is acting. How dare you call the woman and their daughters who have gone to the court hearings as desperate housewives and paris hiltons. You disgust me. I was there and for you to say something so childish is ridiculous.
Henry has bail set at about $1.1 million dollars. He has another hearing next friday, he still has no plea and probably will do so next friday and try to get a lower bail amount.
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 12, 2008 at 3:37 pm
I am just curious, what does everyone think should happen to him?
a resident of Castlewood
on Sep 12, 2008 at 3:49 pm
BACA, how do I view the public record about the victims statements? Thanks
a resident of another community
on Sep 12, 2008 at 3:50 pm
I'm curious if "wondering" is a parent?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 12, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Does it matter?
I am just wondering if people think him trying to get his life back in order after making bail (maybe less than the $1.1 million appointed to him) and stay away from children is okay
or if he should rot in jail forever.
a resident of Dublin
on Sep 13, 2008 at 10:28 pm
WOW!!!!! He's my neighbor!!!!!
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