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Dublin raises LGBTQ pride flag; council changes course after outcry

City leaders unanimously approve flying the rainbow flag over the Dublin Civic Center for Pride Month in June

City leaders wasted no time Tuesday night raising the rainbow flag at Dublin City Hall, following several hours of public comment and lengthy City Council discussion about the importance of local government recognizing and supporting marginalized groups like the LGBTQ community.

With bright, multi-hued flags in hand, residents from Dublin and even as far away as San Francisco flew their colors at Tuesday's council meeting to support raising the rainbow flag on city property during Pride Month.

The flag later joined the American, state and city flags that evening in front of the Civic Center, shortly after the Dublin City Council unanimously adopted a policy permitting the display of commemorative flags by council vote.

"This is about uplifting a marginalized community," said Councilman Shawn Kumagai, who is openly gay.

Kumagai added that the rainbow flag "does have deeper meaning" to the LGBTQ population, saying, "The pride flag represents safety, inclusivity. You knew that when you went to that place that displayed that flag, that you could be yourself."

Dozens of people filled the council chamber, sporting rainbow-colored jackets, pins and stickers to show solidarity with the LGBTQ community in the wake of the May 21 hearing when the council unanimously declared June as Pride Month in Dublin and later voted 3-2 to not fly the rainbow flag in front of City Hall.

Mayor David Haubert, Vice Mayor Melissa Hernandez, and Councilman Arun Goel cast the opposition votes, citing concerns at the time about the absence of an official city flag policy.

That decision sparked outrage from residents who responded by launching a petition signed so far by nearly 800 people.

Haubert apologized to the community Tuesday night for not addressing some residents' comments made at the previous council meeting that many considered anti-LGBTQ, adding that some speakers were from outside Dublin and did not reflect the city's values.

A handful of people were opposed to flying the rainbow flag and argued that the city can't pick and choose which flags to fly without being unfair. But others said it was crucial for the city to back LGBTQ rights and show visible support.

Former Dublin school teacher Val Williams said during the meeting's public comment portion that "this city embraced me ... as well as my partner." Williams thinks that the city's new flag policy "does protect First Amendment rights, but I also think it supports the values and the standards of the vision of the city of Dublin."

The new flag policy requires a council vote to display any commemorative flags on the flag poles at the Civic Center, which is the only city property they can be flown on. No third party requests can be made to fly particular flags.

City attorney John Bakker said the policy was "carefully drafted to ensure any display of commemorative flags is government speech."

"You could have a scenario where if you opened up the flagpole to the public ... the flagpole could be considered a public forum," Bakker said. By limiting the use of the flagpole to government speech, Bakker said the city can avoid First Amendment and censorship issues.

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29 people like this
Posted by carlos
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Jun 6, 2019 at 1:54 pm

I have no problem with the flag. But how can their community be considered "marginalized" when they get their way on everything?


10 people like this
Posted by sjd
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 6, 2019 at 11:37 pm

"they get their way on everything"

Really? You think LGBTQ people get their way on everything? Despite the fact that they didn't the first time? Despite the comments made against them by public comment the first time? Despite the fact that in 26 other states it is still largely legal to be fired for being gay without any other cause?

Frankly I see this as the equivalent of 5 years after the Civil Rights Amendments saying "they get their way on everything."


1 person likes this
Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 7, 2019 at 12:08 am

I cant personally relate to the situation and the further into the alphabet on letters the more confused i am....with that said, i think its important to recognize the human aspect of these individuals and commit to respecting them on the same human rights level the rest of us expect to be treated on; and on this im sure they are not all treated like everyone else, and because of that its important to show support.


20 people like this
Posted by Flightops
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 8, 2019 at 7:57 pm

Flightops is a registered user.

How about flying the flags of our veterans for a month, maybe recognize and show a little more support to the people who have given up a lot to make this a great country. Not going to criticize the city’s decision but they are opening up a big can of worms, be prepared to install more flagpoles!!


18 people like this
Posted by Melinda
a resident of Mohr Park
on Jun 10, 2019 at 9:16 am

Do you think the LGPTQ community should get in line in front of special needs adults, our veterans, black lives matter, holocost survivors, the American Indians, and any other special interest groups. I don’t see somebody’s sexuality as a good reason to hang a flag on the flagpole. I just don’t get it. Sounds like politics of trying to please everyone so no one has hurt feelings. Help me understand this please.


8 people like this
Posted by Native Liberal Resident
a resident of Alisal Elementary School
on Jun 10, 2019 at 12:35 pm

What about equal rights for women flag????? Women make less money, are under threat regarding repro rights, are subject to discrimination and harassment in the workplace, are at risk of sexual violence, to name a few. Women were the last to be able to vote. ..... hint!
I think women’s ’ rights and protection from violence flag should come before a rainbow flag on a government building.
Besides, when LGBTQ quit walking around naked, waving penis flags or wearing S&M leather at Pride parades, maybe I’ll support the rainbow flag more readily along with the rest.


3 people like this
Posted by sjd
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 10, 2019 at 1:57 pm

“Native liberal”

Yeah, sure you are.


6 people like this
Posted by Native Liberal
a resident of Alisal Elementary School
on Jun 10, 2019 at 3:37 pm

To Sid,
Do you get out of the suburbs much? Does not sound like you spend much time in SF which I do daily. And obviously you ain’t a woman who has experienced threat of physical violence or who makes a smaller pay check than your male counterpart.
Yeh, I’m the liberal here and you are in a PC bubble. California has gone so far left of liberal, it’s sad.


1 person likes this
Posted by sjd
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 10, 2019 at 6:47 pm

Yeah, I get to Oakland plenty. And I’m a white male so I can’t speak to your experience.

But your portrayal of LGBTQ as not deserving of a level of support because they’re “walking around naked” or judging what some people choose to wear to parades tells me who you are, and it isn’t liberal. It’s pathetic.


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Posted by sjd
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 10, 2019 at 7:01 pm

Listen to yourself but rephrase it.

"LGBTQ people make less money [from hiring discrimination and in general], are under threat regarding repro rights [in adoption rights around the US at the least], are subject to discrimination and harassment in the workplace [yup], are at risk of sexual violence [yup], to name a few."

You have no empathy for their struggles or you are willfully ignorant of them, because you complain about symbolic gestures towards them as if supporting them means not supporting women for the same problems. So yeah, I don't accept you in my party.


5 people like this
Posted by Native Liberal
a resident of Alisal Elementary School
on Jun 10, 2019 at 7:58 pm

Yeh, SJD, then raise the women flag first. I’m disappointed the LGBTQ does not support and include straight women along with the rest.
And it’s not what people wear as much as please, wear something...anything and leave the jock socks at home in the privacy of your home. Jeese, maybe I should walk around with a big vagina hat and see if anyone congrats me.
I hope you are as concerned with health care, affordable housing, homelessness, etc as you are about rainbows. You sound young and naive


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Posted by sjd
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 10, 2019 at 8:54 pm

"raise the women flag first."

"Who I identify with was not appreciated first so therefore other people should not be appreciated." This is what you sound like.

"does not support and include straight women along with the rest."

Please, you know nothing about this movement, and clearly you know nothing about me because I put in the work and the money on housing, transportation, and healthcare advocacy.


"It's not about what people wear"
First off, you said it was just minutes ago. Second of all, using the fringe to justify tepid support for the average person in a group that is discriminated against is classic deflection.

"I heard a woman call a fetus 'a leech', so we shouldn't defend abortion rights."
"I saw a cyclist run a stop sign so we should not build any more bike lanes."
"I saw a gay person naked, so we shouldn't put a flag up for them."


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Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 10, 2019 at 9:27 pm

There absolutely is a heirchy to causes. And yes veterans trump other special interests as they protect the ability for those other special interests to express and promote their rights. After veterans I think all other causes fall into an equal opportunity for rotational promotion.


2 people like this
Posted by Native Libersl
a resident of Alisal Elementary School
on Jun 10, 2019 at 9:33 pm

Wow SJD, chill out. You sound like an unhappy person. I’m voicing my opinion and you are really angry in your responses. I’m done with this back and forth. Maybe you should move out of the Bay Area and relax. As a native, I long ago accepted all the PC and activists with an open mind and grain of salt. Btw, ITMFA


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Posted by sjd
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 10, 2019 at 9:47 pm

“Just chill out, it’s just other people’s experiences of oppression I’m belittling”

“I’m just voicing my opinion that the fringe of a group gives me the right to judge everyone in it.”

No, I won’t put up with it in my backyard. I will proudly call you out on it. Maybe it is effective in getting you to reconsider, maybe not. But I’m not letting it stand, no way.


2 people like this
Posted by sjd
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 10, 2019 at 10:10 pm

To the people on here who want to honor other people worthy of honoring:
Go do it. I support you.

To those who question the need to appreciate the LGBTQ community or somehow think honoring them means dishonoring veterans or something:
Go reevaluate.

And that’s all.


6 people like this
Posted by Flightops
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 11, 2019 at 8:48 pm

Flightops is a registered user.

Like I said the can of worms has been opened, looks like Dublin is going to need a lot more flagpoles!! As a veteran I’ll be looking for my 30 days of equal flag time!


12 people like this
Posted by DKHSK
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jun 11, 2019 at 10:58 pm

DKHSK is a registered user.

There are only TWO FLAGS that should fly at all Federal and State government facilities: the US Flag and the State Flag.

All other flags can be flown by private entities, then we can stop sniping about who's flag gets to fly.

This is such a silly argument, especially when you talk about LGBTQ...whatever...grow up and fly your own flags on your own private property.

Stop your temper tantrums.


1 person likes this
Posted by Doug
a resident of Birdland
on Jun 12, 2019 at 6:25 am

@Melinda :”I don’t see somebody’s sexuality as a good reason to hang a flag on the flagpole. I just don’t get it. Sounds like politics of trying to please everyone so no one has hurt feelings. Help me understand this please.”

Gee, Melinda, I’m not LGBTQ myself, but isn’t it obvious that one’s sexuality in itself isn’t really the issue with the LGBTQ movement or this particular flag flying but the fact that there is discrimination against members of the LGBTQ community for no other reason than they are LGBTQ? I needed to explain that to you? You couldn’t figure that out yourself?

As for this particular case of raising 3rd party flags on government property, I agree that there should be an official policy involving a council vote before any commemorative flag can be flown at the Civic Center and that no 3rd party requests to fly particular flags should be considered.


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Posted by Flightops
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 12, 2019 at 7:07 pm

Flightops is a registered user.

If Dublin is going to cave in to every Tom, dick, and Harry 3rd party flag flying wannabes maybe they should put the developers who bought the city at the head of the list for the “ flag of the month “ club!


1 person likes this
Posted by pope john
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jun 12, 2019 at 8:54 pm

pope john is a registered user.

Pope Francis recently stated, the Vatican has determined there are two genders.
There is the Female Gender, there is the Male Gender.
All other self proclaimed something else are just that.


2 people like this
Posted by Willy
a resident of Old Towne
on Jun 13, 2019 at 8:13 am

Willy is a registered user.

I personally feel this is bull-hit. What honor has the LGBTQ done to deserve flying their flag in such a position?


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