BART to study second transbay rail crossing

New line would include standard-gauge tracks and the wider BART tracks

BART directors received an update Thursday on early steps toward a second transbay BART crossing that could include both standard-gauge rail tracks and the wider BART tracks.

That would allow Capitol Corridor riders to have a one-seat ride from Sacramento to San Francisco.

The added train access would augment the existing Transbay Tube and could tie together the "megaregion", connecting the Peninsula, Silicon Valley and San Francisco with the East Bay, Sacramento and Central Valley communities.

The idea is to "create more opportunities for people to ditch the car," said BART Board of Directors President Robert Raburn during Thursday's review of the planning process.

The next stage is to commission a feasibility study to narrow alternatives for the second crossing to a short list of two to four options. After that, the BART board could award a contract for the study in mid-2019.

Construction on what's expected to be a multi-billion dollar crossing wouldn't start for another 10 years, but BART officials said they need to start soon. Although BART plans to increase capacity through the existing Transbay Tube, demand is expected to outpace capacity by 2040 in medium- and high-growth scenarios.

Studies and early engineering for the project will be funded by $150 million from Measure RR, the $3.5 billion BART modernization bond measure approved by voters two years ago. Another $50 million for the study will come from Regional Measure 3, approved last June.

Planners have listed six objectives for the project, including the possibility of 24-hour service and increased capacity and to access new markets and growth opportunities.

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Posted by Robert S. Allen
a resident of Livermore
on Nov 20, 2018 at 9:21 am

Low cost. Do now! Make Blue line peak hour trains all 10 cars long. They're 9 cars now.

Low cost. Do it soon. Enlarge Airway Park and Ride to 500 spaces. +- $6500/space per DKS for ACTC. Add 3-bus freeway express bus connecting with every weekday Blue Line train.

Add "Purple" (Blue + Red) line: Dublin-Oakland-Richmond. (Send Orange line to Antioch instead of Richmond.)

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Posted by Flightops
a resident of Downtown
on Nov 21, 2018 at 7:34 pm

Flightops is a registered user.

How about they get the existing system running like it was originally promised to us, extend the trains to livermore, quit selling off the parking lots that the taxpayers paid for, hire more Bart officers and fix the high crime rate on our trains and make them safe to ride!!! Quit looking for more things to spend our money on when you can’t even fix what you have now !!

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Posted by Robert S. Allen
a resident of Livermore
on Nov 24, 2018 at 12:28 am

The legislature, with AB 758, gave the BART Board too abrupt a deadline to consider needed changes in the proposal, and sealed the doom of a Livermore BART station with AB 2923.

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Posted by Map
a resident of Del Prado
on Nov 24, 2018 at 9:25 am

I guess the 40+ years that Bart has been operating really hasn’t been enough “lead” time for management to get their act together and get the stations and service out to livermore, obviously it’s never going to happen so maybe the taxpayers are due a refund on undelivered goods and promises.

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Posted by David
a resident of Alisal Elementary School
on Nov 27, 2018 at 9:57 am

David is a registered user.

Put money into security first. Second, construct efficient transit connections at stations, and I don’t mean buses, I mean other trains. What’s the point of keeping to focus BART to Market Street in SF when most people need to get to other locations.

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Posted by Robert S. Allen
a resident of Livermore
on Nov 28, 2018 at 12:18 pm

David, BART 9-car Blue line commute hour trains are standing room only from the Tri-Valley. BART is designed for 10-car trains. When BART gets enough cars, the Blue line should have 10-car trains.

Then add another route to Oakland and Richmond. (I suggest the Purple line, as it follows the parts of the present Blue and Red lines.) They should re-route the Orange line to Antioch instead of Richmond, capturing I-680 commuters going to the new Silicon Valley stations.

A freeway shuttle from Isabel (in Livermore) would save 5-day Livermore commuters each three hours per week (compared to 10R and 30R) and open up lots of parking at the Tri-Valley stations. It could end when Valley Link rail opens.

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Posted by Map
a resident of Del Prado
on Nov 29, 2018 at 9:08 am

Memory must be failing I don’t recall anything ever being said about freeway shuttle buses when this Bart fiasco was sold to the taxpayers, so then we give up on Livermore and take our trains into other counties, follow the money Alameda County is getting stiffed. Fix the system, give us what we were promised, Bart clean up your mess and make the trains safe to ride and a lot more dependable. Might be time for an independent audit by somebody who doesn’t have any vested interests in this money pit.

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Posted by Robert S. Allen
a resident of Livermore
on Nov 29, 2018 at 8:36 pm

Map: Since 1974 BART Directors have been directly elected. That's better than any audit. The legislature with AB 758 slew BART's Isabel extension and with AB 2923 curbed local control on land use around BART stations.

New cars for longer Blue line trains and a new route to Oakland and Richmond should relieve overcrowding. An interim freeway shuttle bus will save each Livermore BART rider three hours per week (compared to 10R and 30R) and relieve parking congestion at Dublin-Pleasanton.

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Posted by Bad wheel? Is BART safe?
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 8, 2018 at 10:47 am

Rode BARTD the other day- which I rarely do, because the parking is so bad, and busses are so slow.
Was surprised that the car seemed to have a bad wheel- which was causing a lot of noise, and vibration.
Not only was this annoying, but could be a very serious safety concern.

I'd have moved cars, but didn't want to give up my seat- even tho it faced to the rear.

I know BART has cheated us out of the Livermore station, and out of a Seat for Every rider, Free Parking for All,
adequate police protection, as well as the nice interiors with sound deadening materials, now gone.
Have they also ignored maintenance and safety?

Is this "normal"?

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Posted by Michael Austin
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Dec 8, 2018 at 7:47 pm

Bad wheels may be common on Bart.
I hear them all the time when on 580 West to the 238.

Traffic is usually backed up, I have my window rolled down,
along comes Bart with the screeching noisy wheels. It sounds like
the brake is applied while full throttle ahead.

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Posted by Map
a resident of Del Prado
on Dec 9, 2018 at 9:03 am

“Since 1974 BART directors have been directly elected”, maybe it’s time to make a total overhaul of the worst run transit system in this country, IMO! Understaffed police force while crime on the entire system runs rampant, janitors pulling in over 200K while stations and trains are filthy, millions lost every year through fare evaders and turnstile jumpers, parking lots sold while leaving BART riders with no viable option to get to their station, short overcrowded trains with frequent breakdowns and maybe 50% dependability on any given day. Someone needs to be held accountable for this mess, nothing about this transit system has improved since day 1, it’s way past time to call in the “A” team and fix this mess.

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Posted by Robert S. Allen
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 9, 2018 at 6:30 pm

Map: If you could do better, run for the Board as I did in 1974, or support someone who can do a better job. You get one chance every four years. The choice is yours.

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Posted by Robert S. Allen
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 9, 2018 at 8:59 pm

Bad Wheel: It was the legislature (in AB 758) that ruled out a Livermore BART station. True, BART staff's EIR was overpriced by $656 million ($465 million for an unneeded yard and shop and $191 million for cars when a whole new fleet is coming). But AB 758 set a deadline that didn't give the board time to weigh eliminating these items.

With AB 2923, Livermore is just as well off without a BART station and with Valley Link. Elected local officials are better at planning land use near BART stations than is metro-dominated BART.

As for free parking, I kept BART parking for many years beyond my tenure as District 5 Director. After the Board voted parking fees on a 5-4 vote, I got that vote rescinded at the next meeting by noting that it would have required a 2/3 vote. It was many years later before they finally got that 6th vote.

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Posted by Bad Wheel - Let them know
a resident of Livermore
on Dec 10, 2018 at 10:11 am

With better hindsight,
I should have gotten the number of the BARTD car, and let them know.

Poor priorities?
IF a wheel falls off a train it could injure or kill people, and be a real mess!

I'm surprised that they apparently do not have an adequate inspection or maintenance program,
but thinking about who is involved, I shouldn't be.
If their lips are moving....
On the Livermore Station: It is pretty clear, BARTD NEVER intended to extend to Livermore.
They did take our money for over 45 years,
and the state and federal money that they said was for the construction, etc.
I understand we can't get our money back, pr even stop being robbed;
But the bill gives the future money to the new agency, who may actually do something!

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