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School board to consider buying 7,000 Chromebooks

Lengthy closed session, YMCA agreement termination, Amador network upgrades also on schedule

The Pleasanton school board is set to consider purchasing 7,000 new Dell Chromebooks for students in grades 4-12 at Tuesday night's meeting.

The $2 million purchase from CDW-G would be part of the district's "student device initiative," funded through Measure I1, the school facilities bond approved by voters in November 2016. The measure's funding for middle and high school student computers is "intended to be sustained for 8-10 years," district officials said in an email.

Of the 7,000 new devices, 6,200 would be "take-home" devices for students in grades 6-10 starting next school year, with additional grades added in subsequent years. Staff also recommends purchasing carrying cases for these laptops, which is included in the $2 million total.

The remaining 800 would be for fourth- and fifth-grade students, though these would remain at school, to be stored in carts or lockable cabinets.

According to staff, the initiative is part of a greater push toward teaching students digital citizenship and helping them to acquire 21st century skills. Additionally, the purchase would ensure that all students have access to adequate materials for the modern learning environment.

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Staff points to the California Department of Education website in their report, specifically to the question on the Instructional Materials FAQ, "Do Web-based or electronic textbooks count as instructional materials?"

In response, the department states, "Yes, but in order to meet the definition of sufficient instructional materials students need to have access to the materials both at school and at home. This presumes that students with Web-based materials have access to computers and the Internet in school and at home and students with electronic textbooks have access to computers in school and at home."

Students can also choose to bring their own computer device instead of being issued a district one.

The Measure I1 bond provides funding for students in grades 6-12 to each have access to a laptop computer, and for one device to be allocated for every three students in fourth and fifth grades.

"This issuance specifies that device purchases will be financed so that the funds will be paid back over a five-year period to match the expected life of the devices," staff wrote in their report.

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If the purchase is approved, after the first year students in grades six and nine will be issued a personal Chromebook for use at home and at school, to be used throughout their respective middle and high school careers. Students will be expected to bring the devices to class fully charged, operational and in good condition.

In eighth grade, students will return their laptop to the school, and will be issued a new one as high school freshmen. Graduating seniors will return the computers after completing their high school careers. The returned devices will be used as spares until they are obsolete -- officials expect the Chromebooks to have a five-year lifespan.

The district plans on purchasing additional Chromebooks for every year of the plan.

"The largest single year investment will be made this year, due to the fact that five grades will be included in the initial distribution," officials wrote in an email. "We plan to purchase sufficient Chromebooks for up to two grades for each year after the first year."

The board will also consider approving CDW-G's "white-glove" preparation service, in order to ensure the computers will be ready by the first day of the 2018-19 school year. For this service, which would cost an additional $75,000, CDW-G would apply district-approved asset tags to all devices, enroll them into Pleasanton Unified's Google domain and remove all packaging materials before being delivered to campuses.

The regular meeting is scheduled to begin at 7 p.m. Tuesday at the district board room, 4665 Bernal Ave.

In other business

* During a hefty closed session from 5-7 p.m., trustees will consider the appointment of a project manager of construction and facilities, as well as will evaluate the performance of Superintendent David Haglund.

Also during this time, the board will confer with assistant superintendent of human resources Julio Hernandez on negotiations with the Association of Pleasanton Teachers and the California School Employees Association.

The closed-door meeting will conclude with discussions on a handful of litigation and student disciplinary cases: two rejected claims made by students against the district, three cases of anticipated litigation and two cases of stipulated suspended expulsion.

* Listed as three separate items on the consent calendar, the board will consider terminating its agreements with the YMCA of the East Bay to operate programs at Lydiksen, Mohr and Fairlands elementary schools. Instead, the district's Kids Club will operate after-school and summer programs at the three sites.

"The District's Administration and the YMCA of the East Bay believe it is in the best interest of both entities" to make this shift, staff wrote for each of the agenda items. The three contracts had previously been set to expire in 2021, but if approved, this transition will be made effective May 21.

The consent calendar is a collection of items deemed routine and voted upon all at once unless pulled for separate consideration by the board, staff or at the request of the public.

* The board has three official recognitions set for Tuesday: they will honor recipients of the African American Student Achievement Award; Arlene Simpelo, a first-grade teacher at Lydiksen who was selected as the district's Teacher of the Year; and Fairlands, Hearst and Lydiksen elementary schools, named as 2018 California Distinguished Schools.

* Trustees will consider approving Amador Valley High School's access period proposal.

This year, Amador was piloting an access period, which shifted the school's weekly schedule to a modified block schedule in order to provide an extra, supportive 40-minute period twice a week.

At the meeting, Amador staff will address any concerns raised in a recent reflection survey, and present their proposal to continue the access period and modified block schedule in the fall.

*Board members will consider approving a contract with AMS.NET and School Project for Utility Rate Reduction (SPURR) joint powers authority to upgrade Amador's network.

The $636,000 contract would be funded through Measure I1.

The district plans to implement network upgrades across PUSD, with Amador as the prototype.

*The board will consider approving updated board policies and administrative regulations to better align with recommended language from the California School Board Association.

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School board to consider buying 7,000 Chromebooks

Lengthy closed session, YMCA agreement termination, Amador network upgrades also on schedule

by Erika Alvero / Pleasanton Weekly

Uploaded: Sun, May 6, 2018, 8:21 pm

The Pleasanton school board is set to consider purchasing 7,000 new Dell Chromebooks for students in grades 4-12 at Tuesday night's meeting.

The $2 million purchase from CDW-G would be part of the district's "student device initiative," funded through Measure I1, the school facilities bond approved by voters in November 2016. The measure's funding for middle and high school student computers is "intended to be sustained for 8-10 years," district officials said in an email.

Of the 7,000 new devices, 6,200 would be "take-home" devices for students in grades 6-10 starting next school year, with additional grades added in subsequent years. Staff also recommends purchasing carrying cases for these laptops, which is included in the $2 million total.

The remaining 800 would be for fourth- and fifth-grade students, though these would remain at school, to be stored in carts or lockable cabinets.

According to staff, the initiative is part of a greater push toward teaching students digital citizenship and helping them to acquire 21st century skills. Additionally, the purchase would ensure that all students have access to adequate materials for the modern learning environment.

Staff points to the California Department of Education website in their report, specifically to the question on the Instructional Materials FAQ, "Do Web-based or electronic textbooks count as instructional materials?"

In response, the department states, "Yes, but in order to meet the definition of sufficient instructional materials students need to have access to the materials both at school and at home. This presumes that students with Web-based materials have access to computers and the Internet in school and at home and students with electronic textbooks have access to computers in school and at home."

Students can also choose to bring their own computer device instead of being issued a district one.

The Measure I1 bond provides funding for students in grades 6-12 to each have access to a laptop computer, and for one device to be allocated for every three students in fourth and fifth grades.

"This issuance specifies that device purchases will be financed so that the funds will be paid back over a five-year period to match the expected life of the devices," staff wrote in their report.

If the purchase is approved, after the first year students in grades six and nine will be issued a personal Chromebook for use at home and at school, to be used throughout their respective middle and high school careers. Students will be expected to bring the devices to class fully charged, operational and in good condition.

In eighth grade, students will return their laptop to the school, and will be issued a new one as high school freshmen. Graduating seniors will return the computers after completing their high school careers. The returned devices will be used as spares until they are obsolete -- officials expect the Chromebooks to have a five-year lifespan.

The district plans on purchasing additional Chromebooks for every year of the plan.

"The largest single year investment will be made this year, due to the fact that five grades will be included in the initial distribution," officials wrote in an email. "We plan to purchase sufficient Chromebooks for up to two grades for each year after the first year."

The board will also consider approving CDW-G's "white-glove" preparation service, in order to ensure the computers will be ready by the first day of the 2018-19 school year. For this service, which would cost an additional $75,000, CDW-G would apply district-approved asset tags to all devices, enroll them into Pleasanton Unified's Google domain and remove all packaging materials before being delivered to campuses.

The regular meeting is scheduled to begin at 7 p.m. Tuesday at the district board room, 4665 Bernal Ave.

In other business

* During a hefty closed session from 5-7 p.m., trustees will consider the appointment of a project manager of construction and facilities, as well as will evaluate the performance of Superintendent David Haglund.

Also during this time, the board will confer with assistant superintendent of human resources Julio Hernandez on negotiations with the Association of Pleasanton Teachers and the California School Employees Association.

The closed-door meeting will conclude with discussions on a handful of litigation and student disciplinary cases: two rejected claims made by students against the district, three cases of anticipated litigation and two cases of stipulated suspended expulsion.

* Listed as three separate items on the consent calendar, the board will consider terminating its agreements with the YMCA of the East Bay to operate programs at Lydiksen, Mohr and Fairlands elementary schools. Instead, the district's Kids Club will operate after-school and summer programs at the three sites.

"The District's Administration and the YMCA of the East Bay believe it is in the best interest of both entities" to make this shift, staff wrote for each of the agenda items. The three contracts had previously been set to expire in 2021, but if approved, this transition will be made effective May 21.

The consent calendar is a collection of items deemed routine and voted upon all at once unless pulled for separate consideration by the board, staff or at the request of the public.

* The board has three official recognitions set for Tuesday: they will honor recipients of the African American Student Achievement Award; Arlene Simpelo, a first-grade teacher at Lydiksen who was selected as the district's Teacher of the Year; and Fairlands, Hearst and Lydiksen elementary schools, named as 2018 California Distinguished Schools.

* Trustees will consider approving Amador Valley High School's access period proposal.

This year, Amador was piloting an access period, which shifted the school's weekly schedule to a modified block schedule in order to provide an extra, supportive 40-minute period twice a week.

At the meeting, Amador staff will address any concerns raised in a recent reflection survey, and present their proposal to continue the access period and modified block schedule in the fall.

*Board members will consider approving a contract with AMS.NET and School Project for Utility Rate Reduction (SPURR) joint powers authority to upgrade Amador's network.

The $636,000 contract would be funded through Measure I1.

The district plans to implement network upgrades across PUSD, with Amador as the prototype.

*The board will consider approving updated board policies and administrative regulations to better align with recommended language from the California School Board Association.

Comments

Bill
Pleasanton Heights
on May 7, 2018 at 8:56 am
Bill, Pleasanton Heights
on May 7, 2018 at 8:56 am

The lifespan for a chromebook in our house has ranged from 7 months to 1.5 years. They are not built like business class laptops. Buy a Really good maintenance/replacement package. 5 years is delusional.


engaged parent
Amador Estates
on May 7, 2018 at 9:27 am
engaged parent, Amador Estates
on May 7, 2018 at 9:27 am

Complete waste of money. Parents should buy their own for their students. Government-school provided laptops will get trashed and abused and will not be as appreciated as privately-owned laptops.


Disgusted with high tax!
Pleasanton Valley
on May 7, 2018 at 9:39 am
Disgusted with high tax!, Pleasanton Valley
on May 7, 2018 at 9:39 am

This is what we are paying more than $600 a year in new property tax for???

"Students will be expected to bring the devices to class fully charged, operational and in good condition."

What happens when the computer gets broken or a child comes to school NOT charged on a regular basis? Forget about wasting money on sending computers home with students. Everyone in Pleasanton has computers at home and in the rare case they don't, they can then ask the school. Desk computers (cheaper and stronger) should be available only at school. Chromebooks don't last 5 years, 2 years at best! Again Pleasanton School District is wasting our tax dollars. Stop the waste!


Dp
Danbury Park
on May 7, 2018 at 9:50 am
Dp, Danbury Park
on May 7, 2018 at 9:50 am

Why not iPad? The iPads my family owns are built like a tank, you can easily use them for more than 5 years.


engaged parent
Amador Estates
on May 7, 2018 at 10:08 am
engaged parent, Amador Estates
on May 7, 2018 at 10:08 am

Oh, I know why PUSD wants to issue their own laptops. Their laptops will come pre-loaded with liberal indoctrination content, e.g. anti-American, pro-socialist material. “Big-government knows best” not parents remember.


Doug
Birdland
on May 7, 2018 at 11:59 am
Doug, Birdland
on May 7, 2018 at 11:59 am

OK, well this discussion suddenly veered off into looney-land.


Pms parent
Pleasanton Middle School
on May 7, 2018 at 1:38 pm
Pms parent , Pleasanton Middle School
on May 7, 2018 at 1:38 pm

My son tells me that the chrome books at PMS are falling apart and those are ones that stay in the classroom under teacher supervision. I agree with others that the district has a very unrealistic view on their life expectancy.
However my real concern is that many chrome books will be sent home to homes where they are completely unneeded and indeed superseded by ipads, Mac books etc. Has this been surveyed? Can families say no and return them to save money for the district ?

Of course there are families in need of free devices - let’s focus a smaller budget on this smaller group.

I really supported the parcel tax and looked forward to school building improvements. It’s really disappointing given the huge need to make improvements across so many school campuses that money is being wasted in this way.



absolutely not!
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 7, 2018 at 3:00 pm
absolutely not!, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 7, 2018 at 3:00 pm

Not one more dime for these overly entitled kids who don't take care of anything as it is. Mommie and Daddie can pay for a laptop, I pay enough tax just to put their kids into full time day care, oh, excuse me, full time school. They already have every device known to man, the most current version. Not one dime on extras like this.


Doug
Birdland
on May 7, 2018 at 3:41 pm
Doug, Birdland
on May 7, 2018 at 3:41 pm

I’m the parent of a middle schooler. I bought my daughter a chrome book about two years ago for school work and I have to say that she makes good use of it, preparing essays, speeches, and writing assignments on it. I would say that having access to a computer like a chrome book is a practical necessity for any serious student at the middle high school level or higher in PUSD.

Wasn’t sure about getting my child a chrome book at first, but I was surprised to see that one can buy a quality chrome book for less than $200, which is well within the budget reach of most families in Pleasanton. Certainly much more affordable than a Mac laptop. The chrome book has held up to fairly heavy use over the past two years, too. As for us, I think that we would turn down any PUSD provided laptop (as well as the strings that are always attached to such things) and continue to use our own chrome book.


Concerned Parent
Pleasanton Valley
on May 7, 2018 at 4:20 pm
Concerned Parent, Pleasanton Valley
on May 7, 2018 at 4:20 pm

Please email the school board with your concerns or attend the next school board meeting or both.

$2m for devices that are unnecessary is wrong. If there are students in need, by all means provide them with quality devices.

Amador is old and overcrowded. Many of our schools are in need of updates. Spending $2M on laptops is embarrassing and appalling.


Map
Del Prado
on May 7, 2018 at 5:15 pm
Map, Del Prado
on May 7, 2018 at 5:15 pm

Just when I thought the PSB couldn’t come up with any more idiotic ideas up pops this laptop proposal, what’s next, a new car for every student with a drivers license!! Where is our new school, for the people that voted for that bond money all I can say is “thanks suckers”. Let this be a lesson to you the next time they come begging for more money!


Spudly
Laguna Oaks
on May 7, 2018 at 5:29 pm
Spudly, Laguna Oaks
on May 7, 2018 at 5:29 pm

@absolutely not,

Looks like kids in Pleasanton are basically just useless and the schools suck since they are only day care. Where is it better?


Pleasanton Parent
Registered user
Pleasanton Meadows
on May 7, 2018 at 9:25 pm
Pleasanton Parent, Pleasanton Meadows
Registered user
on May 7, 2018 at 9:25 pm

....great if there is leftover budget from our new school.

Build it already.


dknute
Registered user
Golden Eagle
on May 8, 2018 at 6:52 am
dknute, Golden Eagle
Registered user
on May 8, 2018 at 6:52 am

Just when u think “they couldn’t think of a better way to waste an education dollar”. They come up with this. What could go wrong? Really?
And there is somebody in charge of this think tank? Really?
This mistake will be noted in future votes for funding.


Grumpy
Registered user
Vineyard Avenue
on May 8, 2018 at 8:30 am
Grumpy, Vineyard Avenue
Registered user
on May 8, 2018 at 8:30 am

Wow, I think I need to bring out the slide whistle and laff track for this thread!

They won’t put liberal indoctrination on a Chromebook. It’s a Chromebook. It usually has nothing on it—that’s how it’s different from a normal laptop. But, if you really are afraid the public schools are surreptitiously brainwashing your young children to be liberals, I suggest you may want to move much further than Stanislavsky county. Maybe Alabama. Maybe a militia camp in Montana. Anywhere far from here... because it’s that dank liberal indoctrination that makes California the fourth largest economy in the world. And us libtards are loving our cash.

As for that this is stupid: the district is required by law to provide each student with every tool he or she needs, even pencils. Better they buy Chromebooks at $200 or so a piece than Lenovos at $2000. Give them some credit: they are, in fact, trying to save money.

As for that Chromebooks break: ASUS had some great aluminum case Chromebooks for $250 or so at Costco. You may want to look at them. They’re pretty good actually. I don’t know what the district will order.


False News & Alternative Facts
Mission Park
on May 8, 2018 at 8:33 am
False News & Alternative Facts, Mission Park
on May 8, 2018 at 8:33 am

This expenditure was clearly specified in the voter approved Bond known as I1 for $270 which passed in Nov. 2016.

Nothing can be done now.

What the real concerns (and questions) moving forward should be:

1) Does the PUSD have the IT support staff to manage close to 10, 000 devices
2) Who controls what software (and pays for it) will be installed on each device
3) What happens when a device “breaks” (Hardware or Software)
4) Virus, worm & trojan horse protection??????? Protection & management (remember the PUSD E-Mail/IT meltdown of 2010 anyone????
5) Who pays for all the “docking stations” for each classroom
6) What is done when the device is found with un-authorized content (Porn, terrorist activity, violence, cyber-bullying……)?
7) Page 7 of 16 of the PPT presentation states policy will be established by each school site. The policies referenced should be consistent across all sites, and established from the DO.
8) It is unclear from the PPT…Will each student be “given” a chromebook in an early grade, and then keeps it for 5 years (including summer break?)
9) Can students use PUSD owned Chromebooks for personal activities, unrelated to school?
I am sure there are many other concerns/questions that must be considered in managing a large number of devices in the hands of curious minors and young adults.

John


La la land
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 8, 2018 at 8:49 am
La la land, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 8, 2018 at 8:49 am

Before I withdrew my kids from PUSD, I went through 3 required Chromebooks that parents were required to pay for. After 3 cracked screens from other students using the Chromebooks and lifting them by the screen, I said no more. What an absurd amount to spend particularly when PUSD's own network can't handle any sort of volume of laptops connecting to the network. What a useless expenditure. Just buy the textbooks PUSD.


HP Parent
Amador Estates
on May 8, 2018 at 1:32 pm
HP Parent, Amador Estates
on May 8, 2018 at 1:32 pm

anyone know why the HP principal quit? whats this 5 principals in 6 years, I have lost count.


P Parent
Pheasant Ridge
on May 8, 2018 at 3:05 pm
P Parent, Pheasant Ridge
on May 8, 2018 at 3:05 pm

Great concerns here about care and maintenance of Chromebooks, network infrastructure, keeping kids safe. All I can say for now is that PUSD has thought of these and you should get off this board and attend an information session or talk to your principal in person. They have a pretty good plan in place and I for one am impressed with just how well thought out it is.

PUSD is one of the late adopters actually, but on the flipside we can learn from others' schoolwide deployments. We need technology to prepare our children for the future, and much of the existing curriculum comes with online resources. Hoping we can do away with expensive paper textbooks in the near future - that would create much-needed efficiencies in education. Don't freak out, be happy! This is progress and a worthwhile investment in education.


False News & Alternative Facts
Mission Park
on May 8, 2018 at 4:23 pm
False News & Alternative Facts, Mission Park
on May 8, 2018 at 4:23 pm

To: P Parent:

I would encourage you to dig deeper into the situation, and talk to more people than the principal or from a “dog & pony” show put on by the school.

I agree that PUSD has done a good job with the “Student Device Handbook”. However, how many students will adhere to, or even understand, the policies in the handbook.



Some alternative facts:

Talk to the on-site IT people. PUSD does not have enough money budgeted, and PTA & PPIE monies are needed to pay for those IT support salaries. Those people, state that their bandwidth is at 100% capacity currently. And we’re going to add an additional 7000+ laptops onto their workload?

During the Bond Measure I1 open houses before the Nov. ’15 vote, the attendee of the open house were shown carts of Chromebooks throughout the tour. Many of these Chromebooks had significant damage…missing keys, cracked screens, etc, etc. The line Supt. Rubino gave to the community members in attendance was effectively..”how can a student be expected to learn with such sub-standard equipment? “

So the questions is what has changed? Chromebooks are being deployed in an educational environment. Why would one expect these newly purchased Chromebooks not to be damaged, when recent history shows significant damage to Chromebooks in the same environment?

John


Kathleen Ruegsegger
Registered user
Vintage Hills
on May 8, 2018 at 5:36 pm
Kathleen Ruegsegger, Vintage Hills
Registered user
on May 8, 2018 at 5:36 pm

P Parent, doing away with print version textbooks is great for reasons related to the life of an actual book, but online licenses are not always a lot cheaper. And you have to add in the cost of devices being repaired and replaced. And new textbooks are adopted every few years. It is a constant cycle of expenses.


Grumpy
Registered user
Vineyard Avenue
on May 8, 2018 at 5:55 pm
Grumpy, Vineyard Avenue
Registered user
on May 8, 2018 at 5:55 pm

@False News,

Why is it so important that these will break? In the old days, schools paid money to buy tons of pencils and chalk, and no one expected them to last.

Now, laptops are a good multiple more expensive than the pencils they replace, and should therefore last longer. But how much longer?

Let’s face it: kids break electronics. They drop it. They spill things on it. They pry the keys off for fun. They practice their cyber skills by hacking it. That’s okay. We’re not going to change kids. And we’re not going to fail to use the far better teaching tools that come on laptops just because they break—I mean, people always complain that public education is bad, so let’s at least use something electronic to improve it if we can.

So that leaves only a couple of questions. If we need computers, why not get the absolute dirt cheapest? That’s what the district is doing. I’m sure they know that a good chunk of them will get eaten by the family dog the first year. That’s not an excuse not to proceed, and if they haven’t budgeted for it then they’ll fix that soon, since it’s a drop in the bucket compared to most things the district spends money on.

I suppose that leaves the question, implicit in this conversation, of why teach kids on laptops to begin with. If that’s the question you want to ask, feel free to. But if not, it would sure be helpful to know how much money for laptops you think is not too high, compared to what they’re spending now.


absolutely not!
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 8, 2018 at 6:05 pm
absolutely not!, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 8, 2018 at 6:05 pm

These kids will never take care of it unless they pay for it. So, make the parents put up a $200 deposit which they will lose if the kid hacks it, puts unapproved apps on it, loses it or otherwise damages it. It's like watching Section 8 housing get trashed. When the renters have no skin in the game they trash everything. Same with these entitled kids.


False News & Alternative Facts
Mission Park
on May 8, 2018 at 7:05 pm
False News & Alternative Facts, Mission Park
on May 8, 2018 at 7:05 pm

@ Grumpy

You've totally missed the point.

I'll be more specific as it applies to all points I've posited...

The current IT support staff is not totally funded by the PUSD. The district relies upon donations from the PTA and/or PPIE to pay for the current IT support.

Now the PUSD is looking to drop 7000+ users, onto an IT dept that does not currently have the funding to support ongoing, existing operations.

It's like buying a car, but not having the money for gasoline.

The board should postpone this purchase, and approve ONLY when the PUSD staff presents a funding plan to support this many users. As an FYI, the $2MM for hardware is a "drop in the bucket" compared to the yearly funding necessary to support close to 10,000 users across the whole district.

John


Bill
Pleasanton Heights
on May 8, 2018 at 10:15 pm
Bill, Pleasanton Heights
on May 8, 2018 at 10:15 pm

There was no mention of maintenance or repair/replacement in the board materials. However, they will allow "bring your own." Most students will do this, given the dismal state of the current PMS district owned machines. Perhaps that is how they intend to stretch the life to 5 years.

I don't disagree with the concept. But have a rational budget and don't spend the improvement bond money on consumables. That is NOT how the district sold us the bond.


Hypocrisy
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 8, 2018 at 10:28 pm
Hypocrisy, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 8, 2018 at 10:28 pm

I thought the interest and principal from the proceeds of the 40 acre High School land in South Pleasanton that the PUSD sold to Greenbrier Development to develop housing tracts was supposed to pay for technology.

PUSD contradicts itself once again. On its website it says this ----

" Will Sycamore Fund be used for tech in the future?

The interest from the Sycamore fund has been planned for future technology needs. Background on this item is also provided on the District’s website, under weekend reports to the Superintendent and Board of Trustees. "

Also it refers to "weekend reports" that again makes absolutely no sense.

We need a new board.

Bond money for consumables it outrageous. Next they will be using it to buy dry erase markers and toilet paper.


Grumpy
Registered user
Vineyard Avenue
on May 9, 2018 at 12:19 am
Grumpy, Vineyard Avenue
Registered user
on May 9, 2018 at 12:19 am

@False News,

I didn’t miss your point at all. If you reread my post, you’ll see that I asked at what price will you be comfortable?

Right now, we have the fact that the district is responsible for providing laptops—no deposits allowed, by law—and that they are buying what is essentially the cheapest possible option. On the other hand, you say that they are going to somehow forget to budget IT services because of hearsay you picked up along the way.

You may be right. But it still is hearsay. Moreover, the IT budget for maintaining the software of Chromebooks is essentially minimal, since they don’t really allow you to hack them or even modify them much, and they can be restored to factory default by a teacher with the right keystrokes at boot. The hardware is not able to be repaired, but at $200 or so a laptop is probably not worth the 2hrs or someone’s time trying to figure out how to reattach the keys or replace the cracked LCD.

Personally, I suspect that you and others are not observing the difference between a full laptop and a Chromebook, and are reading in your prior experiences with real laptops. Of course, only you know if that’s what you’re thinking.

I too am sick of being hit up by PPIE to fund what we should have paid property taxes for. But I have to disagree on this one point and say that the facts are persuasive that the district might not be messing this one up the way you think they are.


Ha ha ha
Bonde Ranch
on May 9, 2018 at 6:52 am
Ha ha ha, Bonde Ranch
on May 9, 2018 at 6:52 am

Everybody wants a new board but no one run so the only ones on the board are people with nothing better to do and we lose again.


Kathleen Ruegsegger
Registered user
Vintage Hills
on May 9, 2018 at 8:01 am
Kathleen Ruegsegger, Vintage Hills
Registered user
on May 9, 2018 at 8:01 am

Hypocrisy, Here’s the link to weekend updates: Web Link

These used to be under the radar communications to the board. I asked then Superintendent Rubino to put them online because they are subject to public access. Thankfully, the current superintendent is continuing the practice. They are a good way to see the direction staff is heading and often well before a topic gets to the board. All of us should be perusing these memos.


Kathleen Ruegsegger
Registered user
Vintage Hills
on May 9, 2018 at 8:18 am
Kathleen Ruegsegger, Vintage Hills
Registered user
on May 9, 2018 at 8:18 am

Other topics here: The Sycamore fund’s interest on the account *was* for technology refresh, set up many years ago by Bill James. However, years of “borrowing” from the fund for unintended uses drained all the interest and then a lot of the corpus—so now there is no interest to use for tech. I believe the fund is whole again (they are required to repay the corpus, but not the interest). It’s been probably well over 20 years since that fund was set up. I wonder what we’d have for technology now if it had been used as planned.

Grumpy, the IT news isn’t hearsay. That staff is always presenting to the board and community on their limitations, particularly the sorry state of the network and phone systems (also being updated with bond funds). So, we are spending $2MM in bond funds because they burned through the Sycamore interest. Where is the money coming from to keep up with use and abuse of these devices, let alone all the bond funds spent on all new laptops for teachers?

Hahaha, are you planning to run? We do need at least one more candidate.


Ha ha ha
Bonde Ranch
on May 9, 2018 at 9:19 am
Ha ha ha, Bonde Ranch
on May 9, 2018 at 9:19 am

Kathleen,

I would love to run but in my eighties and health is not so good but thank you.


Kathleen Ruegsegger
Registered user
Vintage Hills
on May 9, 2018 at 9:37 am
Kathleen Ruegsegger, Vintage Hills
Registered user
on May 9, 2018 at 9:37 am

Hahaha, 80s! Glad you are staying involved. Sorry about your health issues. Know anyone we could encourage to run?


Grumpy
Registered user
Vineyard Avenue
on May 9, 2018 at 10:55 am
Grumpy, Vineyard Avenue
Registered user
on May 9, 2018 at 10:55 am

Kathleen,

You’re not discussing the issue at hand, which is whether
1) the district is required to buy computers for students (they are if they assign homework on a computer),
2) whether they should buy this particular computer (it’s the cheapest, so yes), and
3) whether laptops have an undue IT burden (chromebooks don’t)

You are discussing something entirely different, whether the same dollars the district must spend is coming from the bonds or a fund set up after the sale of property. That’s a totally interesting point, but doesn’t affect the district’s purchase obligation. And I think you know that.

There’s no doubt the district has made errors. And you are right to call them to account. But I don’t think you are advocating not buying the laptops. I suppose we should be thankful too that this isn’t Dublin, which is a disaster.


Kathleen Ruegsegger
Registered user
Vintage Hills
on May 9, 2018 at 11:34 am
Kathleen Ruegsegger, Vintage Hills
Registered user
on May 9, 2018 at 11:34 am

Grumpy, I was responding to your comment: But it still is hearsay. It isn’t.

Your other topics:
1. Perhaps. I think some effort to determine actual need before buying 7,000 outright might have made sense. And grades 11 and 12 get zip?
2. I’m an Apple person myself, and Chromebooks I saw are I’ll cared for, but fine if we want to just be cheap.
3. Sure. Doesn’t change the fact that IT is struggling and repairs will eventually be a given.

Proves a series of ill advised decisions and the necessity of a bond for these devices (and other ignored maintenance needs—yet another pot not properly funded). It’s quite the domino effect if you laid it all out.

Not against Chromebooks. Grateful board members asked some tougher questions. Don’t follow Dublin much; takes enough time to follow us.


Kathleen Ruegsegger
Registered user
Vintage Hills
on May 9, 2018 at 11:35 am
Kathleen Ruegsegger, Vintage Hills
Registered user
on May 9, 2018 at 11:35 am
Grumpy
Registered user
Vineyard Avenue
on May 9, 2018 at 1:39 pm
Grumpy, Vineyard Avenue
Registered user
on May 9, 2018 at 1:39 pm

Apple laptops are a luxury item, whereas Chromebooks are the closest we’ll get to a disposable laptop. IT has nearly no role in maintaining Chromebooks except for throwing bad ones into a recycle pile. That’s their strength. That’s all I am saying.

False News said “Those people, state that their bandwidth is at 100% capacity currently. And we’re going to add an additional 7000+ laptops onto their workload?”. That’s the definition of hearsay: IT people state that they are overloaded. It may be true, but it doesn’t help us analyze whether IT is much needed (it isn’t), whether they are merely saying they are stressed rather than have no time, nor whether the solution is better staff scheduling or temporary or permanent hiring. When someone says ‘I spoke to the people you won’t be able to and they don’t like it’, it’s right to respond that that’s hearsay and should be discounted until confirmed. That’s all.


Grumpy
Registered user
Vineyard Avenue
on May 9, 2018 at 1:42 pm
Grumpy, Vineyard Avenue
Registered user
on May 9, 2018 at 1:42 pm

Oh, and Dublin needs a second high school that they’ve failed to build, their easternmost middle school is diverting new students across town, and somehow even with all the development the district there hasn’t and won’t collect enough money to support their current needs, let alone their 10 year needs.

Pleasanton needs a new elementary school. They should look at Dublin and learn how to not listen to demographers so much, and not take easy deals for cash.


Kathleen Ruegsegger
Registered user
Vintage Hills
on May 9, 2018 at 2:50 pm
Kathleen Ruegsegger, Vintage Hills
Registered user
on May 9, 2018 at 2:50 pm

“Pleasanton needs a new elementary school.” Absolutely.

“ . . . learn how to not listen to demographers so much . . .” Yes, and exacerbated by staff front loading what the demographer reports/says. This needs to be board directed—like not counting portables as permanent capacity.


False News & Alternative Facts
Mission Park
on May 9, 2018 at 3:19 pm
False News & Alternative Facts, Mission Park
on May 9, 2018 at 3:19 pm

Grumpy...

A question for you

Did you attend last night's meeting or watch live on TV28?

John


facts
Mohr Park
on May 9, 2018 at 5:00 pm
facts, Mohr Park
on May 9, 2018 at 5:00 pm

@False News:
Let me answer your points one by one:

1) no but they never will
2) pusd locks their chromebooks so no new software can be installed without district approval. everything on them is either pre-installed, free, or purchased for use on multiple devices. our district doesn't have the kind of budget to "pay" for software
3) teach your kids how to handle a device.
4) it's a chromebook. if you can't install anything stupid, you can't get a virus.
5) you're supposed to charge them at home, not in class
6) again, the district controls what a student can open on these devices. also, it's a google product. if your kid does something dumb, google will flag it way before your kid finishes whatever he/she is up to.
7) that refers to specific policies, not general and morally understood policies. based on your questions, i suppose you'd need help with those too.
8) yes
9) no

Hope this helps :)


PUSD nightmare
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 9, 2018 at 5:01 pm
PUSD nightmare, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 9, 2018 at 5:01 pm

The bottom line is that PUSD and the parents can't put filtering software on student Chromebooks to filter out and block extremely inappropriate websites.

The District is putting the youth in the community at risk because there is no way to filter internet access through the general Wi-Fi.

With a laptop such as a MacBook or a Dell, parents can install software to prevent access to inappropriate websites as well as tracking software to manage access to the internet.

If the PUSD were actually thinking, they could purchase MacBooks or Dell's with capabilities to install software to prevent access to highly inappropriate websites. But PUSD doesn't think.

With Chromebooks, they put the entire youth in the community at risk. Let the lawsuits begin....


False News & Alternative Facts
Mission Park
on May 9, 2018 at 5:52 pm
False News & Alternative Facts, Mission Park
on May 9, 2018 at 5:52 pm

@ Facts from Mohr Park

Hard to tell from your comments if you are insulting me, being condescending, or just humorous.

All these topics were discussed at length during the board meeting.

So, if you, or anyone else want to be an informed member of the proletariat, or maybe you're an elitist, I strongly urge you to download the video of the meeting and see what answers staff gave to EACH of the questions.

No surprise...their answers are quite different from the ones you have posted.

John


False News & Alternative Facts
Mission Park
on May 9, 2018 at 5:55 pm
False News & Alternative Facts, Mission Park
on May 9, 2018 at 5:55 pm

@ PUSD nightmare post

Filtering was also discussed a length last night (even in a Wi-Fi environment)

Watch the video for their response. (solution)

John


@PUSD nightmare
Lemoine Ranch
on May 9, 2018 at 6:18 pm
@PUSD nightmare, Lemoine Ranch
on May 9, 2018 at 6:18 pm

Students in PUSD have been using a mix of laptops in the district for 10+ years (as have other districts across the country) - so PUSD is not putting the entire community "at risk". The district has web content filtering services in place to provide some level of protection against access to inappropriate sites (which works the same on Chrome books, Dell or Mac). The reality is if a student really wants to find a way around the filters and works at it, they probably will. You cannot deny everyone access to useful technology because a small percentage will abuse the privilege.


CS teacher
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 11, 2018 at 3:00 pm
CS teacher, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 11, 2018 at 3:00 pm

Coming from an actual computer science teacher this is the best bet for students that do not have access to devices. We have carts in our k-8th school for the last 4 years and if you have an actual plan before on how to roll them out in the classrooms you will be golden.


CSteacher
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 11, 2018 at 3:04 pm
CSteacher, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 11, 2018 at 3:04 pm

K-8 schools purchasing cb carts should have students on a school home page only where they have like ks to all.of the apps they want to use. Crazy how far ahead Oakland is.on this issue and they have no money whatsoever. You have to be aware of what the students are doing and they should have continued digital citizenship throughout the school year as well.as parents talking to their children about safe internet access.


CSteacher
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 11, 2018 at 3:10 pm
CSteacher, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 11, 2018 at 3:10 pm

The comments are too much in here


CSteacher
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 11, 2018 at 3:10 pm
CSteacher, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 11, 2018 at 3:10 pm

The comments are too much in here


Teacher
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 12, 2018 at 8:41 am
Teacher, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 12, 2018 at 8:41 am

LaLa land,
I’m not sure why your children are so hard on chromebooks. I have several in my class (bought with a grant), and they are in their fourth year. That means 100 kids have used these and they are still going strong. I have had to buy one mouse because the mouse strip stopped working on one. Other than that , they have been durable and so useful and relevant in class! The kids have google accts and do all their computer work in google classroom where I have complete oversight. We still read books; lots of books, we hold pencils, but the integration of chromebooks has been such a positive impact on our classroom!


Kathleen Ruegsegger
Registered user
Vintage Hills
on May 12, 2018 at 10:24 am
Kathleen Ruegsegger, Vintage Hills
Registered user
on May 12, 2018 at 10:24 am

Teacher, it’s great to hear about positive experiences. How do you/parents feel about Google given concerns about data collection? I don’t know if there are built in preventions regarding student data.


Get Educated
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 12, 2018 at 1:24 pm
Get Educated, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 12, 2018 at 1:24 pm

Pleasanton Unified adopted Google Apps for Education in 2012. This is not the same as public Google Accounts as they are in a private domain.

Ive been using Google Docs, Slides, sites, forms, sheets and more for years with students in ways that have transformed learning in my classroom. Using tech with kids has gone far beyond research, typing, and printing reports! I hope those curious will take time to hear what is happening with tech in all grade levels.

For those interested in learning more, I highly suggest reading through the links below

Web Link
and
Web Link


La la land
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 12, 2018 at 1:36 pm
La la land, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 12, 2018 at 1:36 pm

The use of Chromebooks and the adoption of Google Apps for Education and the lack of real education being received by students in this and surrounding districts might account for why over 500 students just showed up at Las Positas College to enroll in classes this summer. Guess which students are inundating the English and Math classes at Las Po this summer?

When electronic rather essays (the few that are still assigned) are done and uploaded to the Class Docs, the teacher must go through multiple keystrokes to view each individual essay.

The result is the teachers (those that are still remaining at the district or not out on leave due to some repetitive stress injury or carpal tunnel syndrome or related injury) do not give feedback on writing and in text corrections. Instead, it is simply graded as done or not.

Now it is no wonder that Johnny can't read. Or write. Or do math.


Teacher
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 13, 2018 at 8:03 am
Teacher , Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 13, 2018 at 8:03 am

LaLa,
It seems perspective is everything! You have had chromebooks breakdown from use of your children and I have had over one hundred kids use our classroom chromosomes for 4 years without issue. You feel your kids have not been taught in Pleasanton schools, and I have two high schoolers in PUSD who are thriving and becoming beautiful writers with the guidance and feedback of their teachers. And those teachers most certainly do correct essays. I know this because my kids work exceedingly hard to earn good grades on their essays knowing that “As” do not come easy due to the high standards that their teachers hold. I am sorry you feel your kids have not received the same. My senior is very prepared for college and I thank his teachers for getting him there.


Kathleen Ruegsegger
Registered user
Vintage Hills
on May 13, 2018 at 8:43 am
Kathleen Ruegsegger, Vintage Hills
Registered user
on May 13, 2018 at 8:43 am

Teacher, as a teacher, your children will have a good experience, not to diminish the work your children or you, as a parent, put into their successes. There are advantages, such as making sure your children are placed with the best teachers, from kindergarten through high school. Professional courtesy is not limited to the teaching realm, but it is part of your profession.

Please acknowledge not all children have that advantage, be that less than excellent teachers or overworked, disengaged parents. Most certainly, not all teachers provide feedback—even before chromebooks.


Outsourcing teaching
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 13, 2018 at 5:05 pm
Outsourcing teaching, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 13, 2018 at 5:05 pm

The language arts teachers have outsourced the grading of papers and writing to peers in the classroom through so-called peer reviews. This includes major papers and research projects. I know this because my child purposefully turned in a paper full of factual errors, run on sentences, fragments, misspellings and every other problem you could think of and got not only an A, but no comments on the paper whatsoever. In addition, some teachers outsource the grading to the "classroom aide" that is a special needs aide that they have in the classroom with an inclusion student.

Many of the math teachers have outsourced Math to Khan Academy, quizzes and all. That is why students have to have two computers-one to go through the Khan Academy practice quizzes and then another to go through the Khan Academy quizzes to get an actual grade on the quizzes.

This is nonsense.

Most teachers have stopped grading papers since the parcel tax campaign in 2009. Students and their parents are on their own in terms of learning. They might put a happy face on it, but do you think most are really reading the papers and essays? Nope.

Thank goodness the LPC professors have stepped up to teach what should have been taught in this school district the last 8 years.


False News & Alternative Facts
Mission Park
on May 13, 2018 at 7:46 pm
False News & Alternative Facts, Mission Park
on May 13, 2018 at 7:46 pm

@ Outsource

What does the parcel tax failure in 2009 have to do with teachers not grading papers?

John


BobB
Registered user
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 13, 2018 at 8:32 pm
BobB, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
Registered user
on May 13, 2018 at 8:32 pm

@False News,

Outsource is exaggerating, but there is something to that.


La la land
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 13, 2018 at 8:59 pm
La la land, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 13, 2018 at 8:59 pm

In a nutshell, PUSD is attempting to block PUSD students from receiving instruction from outside courses.
See Web Link

Students are taking outside courses in droves in order to obtain actual teaching and actually receive feedback from teachers with proper grading of their work. PUSD is attempting to limit this. PUSD is completely overreaching in this area and attempts to control the students 24 X 7 by even having a "Permission Form" to try to control what students and parents do on their own time in order for students to obtain an actual education:

Here is the form -

Web Link

It is a complete overreach for PUSD to require a counselor who is employed by PUSD to sign off to give permission for students to take outside courses. But look at the form. PUSD actually requires the counselor to give permission for the student to take a non-PUSD course.

If the teachers were doing their jobs and adequately providing instruction, course materials, and feedback, do you really think there would be a huge demand placed on outside course providers to provide this instruction to PUSD students? No.


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