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Trump, ICE official deplore Steinle verdict

Garcia Zarate sentencing hearing set for Dec. 14

President Donald Trump and a top U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement official have deplored Thursday's not guilty verdict returned for the undocumented immigrant charged with Kate Steinle's fatal shooting and called for stricter immigration policies.

A six-man, six-woman jury found Jose Ines Garcia Zarate, a 45-year-old homeless Mexican citizen, not guilty of murder and assault with a deadly weapon after a four-week trial and six days of deliberation. He was convicted of one count of being a felon in possession of a firearm.

As a candidate, Trump had cited the death of "beautiful Kate" as justification for a crackdown on immigration.

Trump tweeted Thursday, "A disgraceful verdict in the Kate Steinle case! No wonder the people of our Country (sic) are so angry with Illegal Immigration (sic)."

The president followed that tweet up with two others Friday morning, seizing the occasion to promote the wall he has long proposed between Mexico and the U.S.

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"The Kate Steinle killer came back and back over the weakly protected Obama border, always committing crimes and being violent, and yet this info was not used in court. His exoneration is a complete travesty of justice. BUILD THE WALL!"

Trump also predicted that the verdict would affect the upcoming elections, tweeting, "The jury was not told the killer of Kate was a 7 time felon," adding that Democrats are "so weak on Crime (sic) they will pay a big price in the 2018 and 2020 elections."

San Francisco's public defender released a statement following the verdict.

"The untimely death of Kate Steinle was a horrible tragedy," San Francisco Public Defender Jeff Adachi said.

"That tragedy was compounded when it was used as political fodder for then-candidate Donald Trump's anti-immigration agenda. The facts of this case were largely uncontroversial: a gun was found on the pier and it accidentally discharged, ricocheting from a distance of 80 feet."

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The deputy director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement also weighed in on the case.

"San Francisco's policy of refusing to honor ICE detainers is a blatant threat to public safety and undermines the rule of law," said Thomas D. Homan of ICE.

"This tragedy could have been prevented if San Francisco had simply turned the alien over to ICE, as we requested, instead of releasing him back onto the streets," Homan said in a statement.

Homan was referring to the fact that Garcia Zarate, who has prior criminal convictions for drug charges and returning to the country after deportation, had been released from city jail several months earlier without notification to federal immigration authorities.

When this fact became known, the case became part of a highly politicized national debate over Sanctuary City policies.

Such policies, which are used by hundreds of cities and counties nationwide, deliberately restrict communication and cooperation between local law enforcement and immigration authorities in an effort to encourage immigrants to report crimes and maintain communication with local police.

"It is unconscionable that politicians across this country continue to endanger the lives of Americans with sanctuary policies while ignoring the harm inflicted on their constituents," Homan said.

"Following the conclusion of this case, ICE will work to take custody of Mr. Garcia Zarate and ultimately remove him from this country," Homan said.

Garcia Zarate is presently in custody at the San Francisco County Jail, according to the San Francisco Sheriff's Department, and has been kept in custody since his arrest shortly after the shooting.

Garcia Zarate will be sentenced to either 16 months in prison, two years or three years on the gun possession charge, depending on the ruling of Judge James Feng. A sentencing hearing has been set for Dec. 14.

There is a federal criminal warrant signed by a U.S. District Judge in 2015 for Garcia Zarate, the sheriff's department said.

Once Garcia Zarate is eligible to be released, the sheriff's department will notify the U.S. Marshal pursuant to the federal criminal warrant, the department said in a statement.

Steinle, a 32-year-old Pleasanton native and San Francisco resident, was walking on Pier 14 with her father and a family friend around 6:30 p.m. when she was struck in the back by a single bullet that had ricocheted off the pier before it hit her.

Prosecutor Diana Garcia had argued the shooting was a deliberate act, while defense attorneys Matt Gonzalez and Francisco Ugarte described it as an accident, occurring after Garcia Zarate picked up a gun he found on the pier.

Inside the courtroom, Garcia Zarate's status as an undocumented immigrant played little role in the trial, which focused on whether he intended to pull the trigger and whether an accidental shooting was in fact possible.

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Trump, ICE official deplore Steinle verdict

Garcia Zarate sentencing hearing set for Dec. 14

Uploaded: Thu, Nov 30, 2017, 3:25 pm
Updated: Fri, Dec 1, 2017, 11:34 am

President Donald Trump and a top U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement official have deplored Thursday's not guilty verdict returned for the undocumented immigrant charged with Kate Steinle's fatal shooting and called for stricter immigration policies.

A six-man, six-woman jury found Jose Ines Garcia Zarate, a 45-year-old homeless Mexican citizen, not guilty of murder and assault with a deadly weapon after a four-week trial and six days of deliberation. He was convicted of one count of being a felon in possession of a firearm.

As a candidate, Trump had cited the death of "beautiful Kate" as justification for a crackdown on immigration.

Trump tweeted Thursday, "A disgraceful verdict in the Kate Steinle case! No wonder the people of our Country (sic) are so angry with Illegal Immigration (sic)."

The president followed that tweet up with two others Friday morning, seizing the occasion to promote the wall he has long proposed between Mexico and the U.S.

"The Kate Steinle killer came back and back over the weakly protected Obama border, always committing crimes and being violent, and yet this info was not used in court. His exoneration is a complete travesty of justice. BUILD THE WALL!"

Trump also predicted that the verdict would affect the upcoming elections, tweeting, "The jury was not told the killer of Kate was a 7 time felon," adding that Democrats are "so weak on Crime (sic) they will pay a big price in the 2018 and 2020 elections."

San Francisco's public defender released a statement following the verdict.

"The untimely death of Kate Steinle was a horrible tragedy," San Francisco Public Defender Jeff Adachi said.

"That tragedy was compounded when it was used as political fodder for then-candidate Donald Trump's anti-immigration agenda. The facts of this case were largely uncontroversial: a gun was found on the pier and it accidentally discharged, ricocheting from a distance of 80 feet."

The deputy director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement also weighed in on the case.

"San Francisco's policy of refusing to honor ICE detainers is a blatant threat to public safety and undermines the rule of law," said Thomas D. Homan of ICE.

"This tragedy could have been prevented if San Francisco had simply turned the alien over to ICE, as we requested, instead of releasing him back onto the streets," Homan said in a statement.

Homan was referring to the fact that Garcia Zarate, who has prior criminal convictions for drug charges and returning to the country after deportation, had been released from city jail several months earlier without notification to federal immigration authorities.

When this fact became known, the case became part of a highly politicized national debate over Sanctuary City policies.

Such policies, which are used by hundreds of cities and counties nationwide, deliberately restrict communication and cooperation between local law enforcement and immigration authorities in an effort to encourage immigrants to report crimes and maintain communication with local police.

"It is unconscionable that politicians across this country continue to endanger the lives of Americans with sanctuary policies while ignoring the harm inflicted on their constituents," Homan said.

"Following the conclusion of this case, ICE will work to take custody of Mr. Garcia Zarate and ultimately remove him from this country," Homan said.

Garcia Zarate is presently in custody at the San Francisco County Jail, according to the San Francisco Sheriff's Department, and has been kept in custody since his arrest shortly after the shooting.

Garcia Zarate will be sentenced to either 16 months in prison, two years or three years on the gun possession charge, depending on the ruling of Judge James Feng. A sentencing hearing has been set for Dec. 14.

There is a federal criminal warrant signed by a U.S. District Judge in 2015 for Garcia Zarate, the sheriff's department said.

Once Garcia Zarate is eligible to be released, the sheriff's department will notify the U.S. Marshal pursuant to the federal criminal warrant, the department said in a statement.

Steinle, a 32-year-old Pleasanton native and San Francisco resident, was walking on Pier 14 with her father and a family friend around 6:30 p.m. when she was struck in the back by a single bullet that had ricocheted off the pier before it hit her.

Prosecutor Diana Garcia had argued the shooting was a deliberate act, while defense attorneys Matt Gonzalez and Francisco Ugarte described it as an accident, occurring after Garcia Zarate picked up a gun he found on the pier.

Inside the courtroom, Garcia Zarate's status as an undocumented immigrant played little role in the trial, which focused on whether he intended to pull the trigger and whether an accidental shooting was in fact possible.

— Bay City News Service

Comments

Jeff
Birdland
on Nov 30, 2017 at 4:40 pm
Jeff, Birdland
on Nov 30, 2017 at 4:40 pm

Unbelievable! At the very least he should have been found guilty of manslaughter.


Mike
Vineyard Avenue
on Nov 30, 2017 at 5:17 pm
Mike, Vineyard Avenue
on Nov 30, 2017 at 5:17 pm

Jurors are misled by liberal activist judges when they are instructed about the powers that they have. If it took 6 days then some of them wanted to convict but probably gave in to pressure. At least the possession charge can carry a 10 year sentence. Let’s see if the judge has the conviction to apply it.


FrequentWalkerMiles
Registered user
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 30, 2017 at 5:35 pm
FrequentWalkerMiles, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
Registered user
on Nov 30, 2017 at 5:35 pm

SF Chronicles says the felon in possession in charge carries up to 3 years. The perp has been in custody for about two years now, so he could be eligible for parole by the time he is sentenced.

Unbelievable.


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Nov 30, 2017 at 5:49 pm
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Nov 30, 2017 at 5:49 pm

So we are supposed to riot now right?

Guy deserves a bullet in his head.
Defense attorney should be disbarred.
Prosecutors should be shamed.
Jurors thrown in jail.
Eric S should put his name on the impeachment petition.

We failed as a society here.

Contributing members of society are dead, multi conviction repeat criminals live to harm again


DKHSK
Registered user
Bridle Creek
on Nov 30, 2017 at 6:44 pm
DKHSK, Bridle Creek
Registered user
on Nov 30, 2017 at 6:44 pm

Deported 5 times...

Sanctuary cities...

No border wall...

Thanks Democrats.


JUSTICE FOR KATE
Apperson Ridge
on Nov 30, 2017 at 6:46 pm
JUSTICE FOR KATE, Apperson Ridge
on Nov 30, 2017 at 6:46 pm

In Sanctuary Califoria, Illegals and Refugees get better treatment than citizens, taxpayers, and vets.


wow
Bridle Creek
on Nov 30, 2017 at 6:48 pm
wow, Bridle Creek
on Nov 30, 2017 at 6:48 pm

low life puke jury


Michael Austin
Registered user
Pleasanton Meadows
on Nov 30, 2017 at 8:36 pm
Michael Austin, Pleasanton Meadows
Registered user
on Nov 30, 2017 at 8:36 pm

I remember our Congressman Eric Swalwell voting no against Kate's Law.

In effect approving of Kate's death.


Mark
Del Prado
on Nov 30, 2017 at 10:04 pm
Mark, Del Prado
on Nov 30, 2017 at 10:04 pm

@Michael. Smallwell never vote no. Please stop spreading falsehoods. Web Link


Michael Austin
Registered user
Pleasanton Meadows
on Dec 1, 2017 at 5:08 am
Michael Austin, Pleasanton Meadows
Registered user
on Dec 1, 2017 at 5:08 am

Mark:

Eric Swalwell acknowledged his no vote against Kate's law.

See Swalwell's response to his no vote on Kate's Law August 01, 2015.

Congressman Swalwell votes no on Kate's Law August 20, 2015.


Mark
Del Prado
on Dec 1, 2017 at 9:21 am
Mark, Del Prado
on Dec 1, 2017 at 9:21 am

@ Michael

Links please. In the link I shared it has him voting no the first time it came up for a vote in congress. Tim Hunt apologized for falsely stating he had previously voted yes. Web Link


Ricardo
Pleasanton Valley
on Dec 1, 2017 at 9:32 am
Ricardo, Pleasanton Valley
on Dec 1, 2017 at 9:32 am

Look at all you racist Trump supporters arguing against this decision. You're letting your xenophobia and bigotry get in the way of a rational decision. By the way, TRUMP himself is a criminal!


neighbor
Del Prado
on Dec 1, 2017 at 9:44 am
neighbor, Del Prado
on Dec 1, 2017 at 9:44 am

This world is going to hell in a hand basket.

We all must be living in the upside down, like in 'Stranger Things' because this world is crazy. A person who does not even belong in this country, steals a gun, shoots a young women in cold blood and he is found not guilty. and we call this justice.
for whom?


Disgusted
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 10:01 am
Disgusted, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 10:01 am

Justice system?? Justice for whom? Does anyone think that the Stinely family feels they got justice for their precious daughter? If Kate was a non white and her murderer was found not guilty, there would have been riots last night. I'm not advocating violence, but where is the outrage, where are the feminists, the ACLU, the talking heads who scream for civil rights? I don't hear them. Will the Justice Dept. sue this murderer for violating Kate's civil rights like they did with people who have killed non-white citizens? I'm not a bigot or a racist; I want justice for EVERYONE, and letting this guy off with a slap on the wrist is not justice. If you have a gun in your hand, which they admitted that he did, and you kill someone with that gun, intentionally or not, you are guilty of manslaughter. How could they find him guilty of possessing the gun, but not of the consequences of that possession? It makes no sense. Be proud San Francisco, your bleeding heart liberal polices have caused another murder. Don't blame Donald Trump, anti-immigration polices or anyone/anything else - take responsibility; you are to blame.


meadowlark
Pleasanton Meadows
on Dec 1, 2017 at 10:07 am
meadowlark, Pleasanton Meadows
on Dec 1, 2017 at 10:07 am

Have all of you who are protesting the verdict sat through the trial, heard all the arguments, and examined all the evidence or are you just basing your comments on some other criteria?


DoneWithCa
Kottinger Ranch
on Dec 1, 2017 at 10:14 am
DoneWithCa, Kottinger Ranch
on Dec 1, 2017 at 10:14 am

What is the difference between this situation and someone having an 'accident' in a car and killing another person? Both are 'accidental' but should have the same consequences... by his having a gun, he was responsible for handling it and should have received manslaughter at the least. I am so done with CA liberalism.


Larry
Dublin
on Dec 1, 2017 at 10:15 am
Larry, Dublin
on Dec 1, 2017 at 10:15 am

The investigation was flawed. Didn't really explain how this guy acquired the gun and it didn't come out that this guy is another drug dealer that traded dope for stolen property (gun). should have done DNA of his pockets for dope residue. sad that jury didn't see that this creep was living on the streets dealing dope. his life style in this country caused this death ricochet or not. we as citizens would have been held to a higher standard, lost our house, job...strange how that works


HT
Danbury Park
on Dec 1, 2017 at 10:20 am
HT, Danbury Park
on Dec 1, 2017 at 10:20 am

I am so sad. People please remember first and foremost this is about Kate. Please have some respect. As disgusted as you are by the decision, please do not disrespect her memory with foul comments.

An innocent wonderful woman was killed. There is no justice that could ever be found in the court system for that.

No matter how you feel about this, its nothing to what her family, especially her dad, feel. Please try to restrain your selves with all the hate talk. That only makes her family feel worse.

RIP dear Kate.


Mark Richards
Foothill Knolls
on Dec 1, 2017 at 11:06 am
Mark Richards, Foothill Knolls
on Dec 1, 2017 at 11:06 am

Does anyone know if Mr. Zarate used the wrong gender pronoun that day on the pier? If so, I bet an SF jury would lock him up and throw away the key for good.


rolling eyes
Castlewood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 11:17 am
rolling eyes, Castlewood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 11:17 am

Kate Steins case is Casey Anthony all over again. Prosecutorial overreach when they tried to build a stretch case for murder with intent. Instead of building a case for manslaughter on negligence. The prosecutor blew it. Manslaughter didn't work for what the prosecution could prove. Thus was one of those weird cases. The victim died from a bullet that had ricocheted for something like 16 feet before it hit her. The defendant was 100 feet away at the time of the shooting. Didn't know the victim + had no history of violence. Expert witness testified that gun type can easily misfire. I think that jury would have been happier if they DID have enough evidence to find that man guilty. It is human nature to want someone to be punished after a tragic death like that. They deliberated for 30 hours over 6 days, and the jurors requested they all be allowed to handle the gun before they reached their verdict.”


Scott Walsh
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 11:24 am
Scott Walsh, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 11:24 am

Broken Country because of Broken Judicial System. The Apathetic Voter is to BLAME--Us. George Washington was right, political party platform over the right thing to do.


Mark Richards
Foothill Knolls
on Dec 1, 2017 at 11:36 am
Mark Richards, Foothill Knolls
on Dec 1, 2017 at 11:36 am

Mr. or Mrs. Rolling Eyes

Nobody cares about the ricochet.

This is ultimately about illegal immigration and an extremist sanctuary policy that protects scum like this guy. This tragedy was 100% preventable. If the elected officials of SF prioritized public safety this would never have happened in the first place.

That is what the good folks with common sense are so p!ssed off about


VictorW
Mission Park
on Dec 1, 2017 at 12:12 pm
VictorW, Mission Park
on Dec 1, 2017 at 12:12 pm

What happened was tragic. What happened seems, based on the evidence, an accident. Interesting that many want to hang this poor schmuck whose previous convictions were for, what? Marijuana? Yeah, I know, I know, he wasn't supposed to be here...

The tragedy was not compounded with a wrong conviction. Glad the "system" worked in this case.


What???!!!
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 1:04 pm
What???!!!, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 1:04 pm

Victor W - The system worked??!!! Worked??!!!! Do you think the Stinely family thinks the system "worked"? Maybe if your daughter died in your arms you might not think so. And this guy had more than a marijuana charged on his record. He was deported FIVE TIMES!!! What system are you talking about? Protect the guilty while they murder the rest of us? You are messed up.


Mark Richards
Foothill Knolls
on Dec 1, 2017 at 1:09 pm
Mark Richards, Foothill Knolls
on Dec 1, 2017 at 1:09 pm

Deported five times
Seven previous felony convictions

VictorW - the system did not work, it is seriously broken. Shame on you.


sanity
Registered user
Mohr Park
on Dec 1, 2017 at 1:23 pm
sanity, Mohr Park
Registered user
on Dec 1, 2017 at 1:23 pm

A guy who isn't supposed to be here is released against federal law and picks up a gun he isn't supposed to have and it kills an innocent woman. He did all this voluntarily and caused the death, intentionally or not. Guilty of at least negligent homicide. The people who set him free against federal law are complicit in this travesty. All should pay for their crimes. We have criminals going free, men in womens bathroom, people changing their gender, nationality and more (see man self identifies as Filipino woman and man self identifies and 6 year old girl and man identifies and animal I forget which one) This people, is why you don't vote for Democrats. Reality has no place in their world, and they are effing it up for everybody else. Vote these morons out of office at every opportunity or this country is doomed. I'm sure this TRUTH will offend some...look in the mirror. You are the ones who are responsible for this travesty. Now go ahead and flame me and turn me in for hate speech or whatever while you can. America is coming to its senses and you are on your way out. That GOD for that.


sanity
Registered user
Mohr Park
on Dec 1, 2017 at 1:26 pm
sanity, Mohr Park
Registered user
on Dec 1, 2017 at 1:26 pm

No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.


Hopeful
another community
on Dec 1, 2017 at 1:34 pm
Hopeful, another community
on Dec 1, 2017 at 1:34 pm

Sanity, I hope you are right that America is coming to its senses, but I'm still worried that this verdict shows that it is not. This is a terrible injustice, and as you said, people are blind to the insane things that are being shoved down our throats as "normal". Maybe I've lived too long; I can't take all this insane liberalism anymore. It's very depressing that people try to tell me that someone can "identify" as anything they like so that they can practice their perverted behavior anytime, anywhere they want. Maybe we need more people shouting from the roof tops that this is NOT normal.


sanity
Registered user
Mohr Park
on Dec 1, 2017 at 1:46 pm
sanity, Mohr Park
Registered user
on Dec 1, 2017 at 1:46 pm

The leftists are concentrated on the coasts. Look at NY and CA. The rest of the country for the most part rejects this insanity as evidence by the election of Donald Trump. NY and CA have huge populations that largely think alike (Liberalism is a disease) but the majority of the states, the rest of the country elected Trump overwhelmingly. Californians are starting to wake up....may take a little while but we will get this fixed.


Johnny
Parkside
on Dec 1, 2017 at 2:08 pm
Johnny, Parkside
on Dec 1, 2017 at 2:08 pm

nice underhanded use of the word deplore in the title... really lame


Sanctuary to commit crimes with no accountability
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 2:23 pm
Sanctuary to commit crimes with no accountability, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 2:23 pm

One of my neighbors predicted that when Pleasanton Unified was voting to become a 'sanctuary district for illegal aliens' that Steinle's killer would be acquitted. The judge going on and on about the case during the trial and the politics that has been discussed at the Federal level meant he turned the trial into a zoo. Rather than convict the killer based on the facts, the jury has basically said he is not remotely accountable for this girl's death.

I agree with Disgusted who said "If you have a gun in your hand, which they admitted that he did, and you kill someone with that gun, intentionally or not, you are guilty of manslaughter."

So what does this verdict mean? That many other illegal aliens are going to now believe they truly have a license to kill.

Trump was right. It is time that Pelosi and Swalwell and all of these Democrats that insist that illegal aliens who kill have every right to be here (and have a sanctuary to commit crimes in our cities and schools with no accountability) including all these warped local officials like school board members get removed from office.


Sanctuary to commit crimes with no accountability
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 2:37 pm
Sanctuary to commit crimes with no accountability, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 2:37 pm

This news story from TV fairly summarizes Pleasanton resident's reactions and opinions on those that promote the 'sanctuary' movement: Web Link

Also I think that the publisher's and editor's word choice in the headline of "deplore" as in "Trump, ICE official deplore Steinle verdict" is mean spirited. Sounds like the use of the term from the Clinton 'deplorables' comments is basically name calling the entire citizenry of Pleasanton and accusing Pleasanton residents of being 'deplorables.'

I guess that the Pleasanton Weekly is trying to be the "New York Post" or "National Enquirer." Very tacky. Very disrespectful to the family of the Steinle's as well.


DelPrado Nester
Del Prado
on Dec 1, 2017 at 3:08 pm
DelPrado Nester, Del Prado
on Dec 1, 2017 at 3:08 pm

Disheartening verdict for the working common person. I truly feel for the Steinle family. As was said above, it is true liberal judges will instruct, guide a jury very differently. Going for a murder conviction may have been sound strategy in most other courtrooms.

Also disheartening that a foreign drug using parasite is gifted a full two-month jury trial at taxpayer expense for his insanity. Comes at a time when career politicians from both sides of the aisle get crucified without ever meeting their accusers in a court of law. The Swamp seems to be eating itself. Yea, many of those crusty men are slime but - if justice in our country is truly blind, why couldn't they get their day in court just like the undocumented?


coolaide
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 3:23 pm
coolaide, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 3:23 pm

The majority of you all do not understand the "justice system- or the system with rules that let 12 people, with information they are given (information not necessarily facts, not necessarily the truth and certainly not the whole truth), with decisions and rules that allow or disallow information often based on a judges whim and these 12 get to make a decision. A decision only. Truth has nothing to do with it. Justice has nothing to do with it. You have no idea unless you have been in it, you would not believe the injustices in the system or just how corrupt it is unless you have been wrongly and immorally dragged into it. Truth has nothing to do with the system. It is defunct. On the whole the comments regarding "our" system are out of touch, laughable and so very sad. Blessings to the Steinle Family and Friends


Jan .W.
Pleasanton Valley
on Dec 1, 2017 at 3:25 pm
Jan .W., Pleasanton Valley
on Dec 1, 2017 at 3:25 pm

I feel so badly for the family of Kate Steinle.

This seems to be a case where the prosecution either did not wish to win, or was so totally inept at convincing a jury that they should at least convict him of involuntary manslaughter. If it was an accident and that accident caused the death of another, that means he killed someone involuntarily, which defines involuntary manslaughter.

The prosecutors shouldn't qualify to be legal secretaries and shouldn't be doing anything more than clerical duties. A layman could have convinced the jury to convict on more than a weapons charge.

The San Francisco D.A.'s office should be ashamed for this travesty.


Pete
Downtown
on Dec 1, 2017 at 4:57 pm
Pete, Downtown
on Dec 1, 2017 at 4:57 pm

The feds picked him up today I believe. He is to be remanded to the custody of US Marshall’s in West Texas to be tried federally on 5 felony counts.


Mark Richards
Foothill Knolls
on Dec 1, 2017 at 6:45 pm
Mark Richards, Foothill Knolls
on Dec 1, 2017 at 6:45 pm

Coolaide - just to make sure you're following along..

The ultimate travesty of "the system" was the inability and unwillingness of government officials to enforce existing immigration laws, which directly resulted in the death of this young woman.

And just to be clear - nothing regarding "the system" has really changed, this scenario is likely to play out again and again.

If our elected officials enforced the existing laws, "the system" wouldn't have failed Kate Steinle

Make sense yet?


Rider
Registered user
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 9:03 pm
Rider, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
Registered user
on Dec 1, 2017 at 9:03 pm

While I disagree with the verdict, I don't blame San Francisco's sanctuary city policies or lack of boarder security. The main blame is our gun culture that makes it possible for a poor homeless man to find (or perhaps steel) a gun so easily.

As for the verdict, I don't think the gun discharged accidentally. While I'm sure he did not intend to kill Kate, I do believe he was handling the gun with reckless disregard for the safety of others.


Sanity
Amador Estates
on Dec 1, 2017 at 9:27 pm
Sanity, Amador Estates
on Dec 1, 2017 at 9:27 pm

Wait...its the guns fault? My god man...
Suppose it was a knife and he tripped and fell on the poor woman and accidentally stabbed her....would you blame it on kitchen culture?
See, THIS is the problem with the left...they create these problems and then blame it on everyone else. Lets put the blame where it actually is. The actions of those who actually caused this. Not some inanimate object. If you're going to blame "Gun Culture" how about blaming Hollywood and Game manufacturers for glorifying violence in movies and kids games.


Sanctuary to commit crimes with no accountability
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 9:54 pm
Sanctuary to commit crimes with no accountability, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 1, 2017 at 9:54 pm

It is the sanctuary city politics that let this career criminal go free and kill Kate.

Also, the Chicago Tribune points out that if the assailant first said, he was shooting at sea lions. The writer from the Chicago Tribune points out that if he had in fact killed one of the sea lions, he would have been convicted of something. Instead he is acquitted.

The Chicago Tribune's take is that it is the career criminal that fired a bullet that took her life, but the politics of those that support sanctuary cities killed her. And by that he means Democrats pushing the sanctuary status in order to win Latino votes.

Here is the Chicago Tribune article.
Web Link


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Dec 1, 2017 at 10:48 pm
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Dec 1, 2017 at 10:48 pm

...a poor homeless man???


Try repeated convicted drug dealer and felon.

Rider - you killed Kate


Mark
Pleasanton Valley
on Dec 1, 2017 at 11:02 pm
Mark, Pleasanton Valley
on Dec 1, 2017 at 11:02 pm

@mark Richards, I do appreciate your honesty about your outright hate of undocumented immigrants. How is this about that? This is about a homeless mentally ill man with previous marijuana convictions who found a gun and instead of doing the responsible thing and turning it in, he messed around with it and accidentally killed poor Kate. He should have been charged with manslaughter, not first degree murder, the mistake was expecting a jury to convict on the wrong charge. Accidental shootings by stupid and irresponsible people happen all the time in this country. Those people are usually convicted of manslaughter. Did the prosecutors think they could do murder 1 just because of his immigration status? It's awful that Kate's memory has been tied to Trump and his immigration hate. I'm angry that he wasn't convicted of the correct charge and hope it can be rectified. I'm sure it was very difficult for the jury to let him off but they didn't have much choice with what they were given.


sanity
Amador Estates
on Dec 1, 2017 at 11:09 pm
sanity, Amador Estates
on Dec 1, 2017 at 11:09 pm

By "Undocumented Immigrant" you mean "Illegal Alien" A guy who broke the law not once, but 5 times coming into this country Illegally and the sanctuary city apologists let him stay against federal law and THAT directly lead to this travesty of justice. Lets be honest. Had the local law enforcement done their job Kate would be alive today. FACT. Put the blame where the blame belongs and stop making excuses.


Mark Richards
Foothill Knolls
on Dec 2, 2017 at 6:27 am
Mark Richards, Foothill Knolls
on Dec 2, 2017 at 6:27 am

@Mark

Sigh... always comes back to our "hate" of the undocumented, eh? Careful though Mark, this is a tell that you don't have an actual reasoned argument to make

With seven previous felony convictions, and having been deported already five times, this fellow shouldn't have been in the country - let alone out on the streets.

Apparently though this a difficult concept for some to grasp


Travesty
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 2, 2017 at 8:04 am
Travesty , Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 2, 2017 at 8:04 am

In the law there is a concept that a gun is an “inherently dangerous” item. If you mess with an inherently dangerous item, then all the foreseeable consequences of your actions are held against you. For example, if you are carrying a gun on a pier in a city full of people and the gun goes off, even accidentally and if it ricochets three times, it is a foreseeable consequence that you could kill someone. Therefore you would be guilty of Manslaughter. This is law school 101.

He is guilty. There is no question he is guilty. Everyone knows he is guilty. If the jury in SF wanted to find him not guilty because he is a minority that’s racism. Where is all the outrage over this racism?! I agree with everyone above, California has lost its friggin mind and it’s so sad. Why are they allowed to operate outside the laws of the US? Because they are “different”? When did this become ok?


FrequentWalkerMiles
Registered user
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 2, 2017 at 3:40 pm
FrequentWalkerMiles, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
Registered user
on Dec 2, 2017 at 3:40 pm

@Mark and Rollingeyes

I would like to think SF Deputy District Attorney Diana Garcia is competent in prosecuting this case, and further more the involuntary manslaughter charge was in fact one of the three options for the jury.

The case that the SFPD put together sounds solid, they have eye witness reports, videos, the evidence, and even have statements from Jose Garcia Zarate himself who admitted what he did. So the evidence seems like a slam dunk, assuming the prosecutor is competent in presenting the evidence, that leaves the jury just deciding even involuntary manslaughter was to severe.

Makes one think, doesn't it?


Rider
Registered user
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 2, 2017 at 5:57 pm
Rider, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
Registered user
on Dec 2, 2017 at 5:57 pm

While I can understand people's anger and also don't understand how this guy got off, I don't blame the sanctuary city policies or lack of boarder security because if this guy was a US citizen, the outcome would have been exactly the same. We need to figure out a better way to protect people from gun related deaths period, not just the ones committed by undocumented immigrants. I don't think anyone could have predicted this petty criminal would get out of jail and recklessly kill someone, buy you can certainly predict that leaving a gun in a car in a backpack in San Francisco, is asking for trouble.


Michael Austin
Registered user
Pleasanton Meadows
on Dec 2, 2017 at 6:07 pm
Michael Austin, Pleasanton Meadows
Registered user
on Dec 2, 2017 at 6:07 pm

The national media is not reporting on the non riot in Pleasanton!


sanity
Amador Estates
on Dec 2, 2017 at 6:17 pm
sanity, Amador Estates
on Dec 2, 2017 at 6:17 pm

You can always spot the liberals by the way they deflect blame for the damage their policies cause towards conservatives or guns or the NRA of racism or whatever. Anything but accepting responsibility for their continually failing policy's. You completely avoid the point....he wasn't supposed to be here. Period. If SF enforced federal law Kate would be alive today. PERIOD. That is the cause of her death. To suggest anything else is simply moronic. The truth is, without minority and illegal votes, Democrats would have no political power at all. They HAVE to keep them on the plantation and are perfectly willing to sacrifice anyone or anything to keep that power, and that is the damn truth.


Rider
Registered user
Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 2, 2017 at 8:07 pm
Rider, Another Pleasanton neighborhood
Registered user
on Dec 2, 2017 at 8:07 pm

@Sanity. I know it can be tough to understand when confronted with a case in which an undocumented immigrant kills someone, particularly when the person he killed was a respected member of our local community, but sanctuary city policies actually do more good than harm. You never hear about the shooting and crime that didn't occur because an undocumented immigrant reported something to the police and prevented it from happening. The reason you don't hear about that is because the crime was prevented and news generally does not report on crime that was prevented from happening.

Yes, you will get undocumented immigrants involved in gun related deaths, but at the same rate as US citizens involved in gun related deaths. Sure, you can say if this guy was deported, Kate would be alive. You could also say that if the guy who brought his gun to San Francisco had just left it at home, Kate would be alive. There are a lot of ways Kate would still be alive. The easy way out is to blame it on sanctuary city policies and poor boarder security. Changing sanctuary city policies and building a boarder wall won't make us any safer. It will just change demographics so we will all be killed by criminal who are mostly US citizen.


Pleasanton Parent
Pleasanton Meadows
on Dec 2, 2017 at 8:43 pm
Pleasanton Parent , Pleasanton Meadows
on Dec 2, 2017 at 8:43 pm

Rider
No they don't.

- they only exist as a political statement.
- they only exist because people are breaking the law (if people didn't come here illegally we wouldn't waste time with them.
- they've only divided government instead of strengthening it.
- they've only been used to artificially claim some political achievement was accomplished in a system that fails to deliver any meaningful changes.
- there is real evidence they've resulted in the death of an innocent person over anecdotal opinions about how they may have helped


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