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Law firm attacks Pleasanton Weekly on Twitter

News organization says nothing its blog stated was factually incorrect or defamatory

The Los Angeles law firm of Geragos & Geragos has taken to Twitter to call the Pleasanton Weekly a "journalistic disgrace" for failing to publish information contained in one of the firm's press releases.

The firm represents the family of John Deming Jr., who was shot and killed by Pleasanton police officer Daniel Kunkel July 5, and demanded a retraction of a blog post made on Sept. 14 by Pleasanton Weekly publisher Gina Channell-Allen.

In a letter to the Weekly, Lawyers Mark Geragos and Ben Meiselas requested the Weekly remove the blog post and apologize.

Bill Johnson, CEO of the newspaper's parent company, Embarcadero Media, responded the paper would not remove the content or apologize because nothing contained in the blog post was factually incorrect or defamatory.

The firm's lawyers then took their objections to a public forum last week by tweeting and linking to the correspondence, and saying "this so-called 'newspaper' is a journalistic disgrace" and "#pleasantonweekly helps #police coverup murder of unarmed teen."

Channell-Allen's blog explained to readers why the Pleasanton Weekly wouldn't be running a news article on a toxicology report provided by the firm that stated there were "no positive findings" of drugs in Deming Jr.'s body on the night he was fatally shot. Her blog stated she made the decision in part because of the "timing and the piecemeal manner with which the Deming family attorneys appear to be releasing information to the media."

She stated the toxicology report had been sent to various media days before Urban Shield, a first responder training conference for local police that includes SWAT, anti-terrorism and massacre-prevention training, was set to begin in Pleasanton.

Channell-Allen explained the firm had paid for the third-party toxicology report and an autopsy report but had chosen to only release the toxicology report. Since the official autopsy and toxicology reports haven't yet been released by the county, Channell-Allen said the Weekly would await the county's reports and then publish a story on both versions.

She also raised the question of whether toxicology tests are able to detect some new club drugs, such as "bath salts." She cited a report in Forensics magazine in which a toxicologist explained the difficulty of testing for this particular drug.

The firm refused to provide the full autopsy report, which could have corroborated the claims in the toxicology report.

In his Sept. 18 letter, attorney Geragos refuted the claims of the blog, calling the Weekly "a shrill propaganda arm for Pleasanton PD." He said the company that had completed the toxicology -- NMS Labs -- provide fair results regardless of who is paying them, claimed that bath salt compounds were tested for in that toxicology and were not detected and claimed that the firm's intention wasn't to draw attention to Urban Shield but to fulfill a request for information from the Weekly.

The Pleasanton Weekly contacted the Geragos firm on Sept. 10 to receive a copy of the toxicology report that had been released to other media but not provided to the Weekly. The toxicology report was dated Aug. 24, but the date on the press release was Sept. 9. The title of the press release was "John Deming Jr.'s toxicology: No positive findings as Pleasanton set to host Operation Urban Shield," with the last five words underlined.

In its letter to the Weekly the firm also criticized the paper for not publishing personnel information the firm released related to Officer Kunkel and his past employment which the Weekly has been unable to independently verify.

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Posted by Sam
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 29, 2015 at 9:20 am

Geregos' intention in all of this is to call attention to the paid-for report from their toxicologist. He and his firm could care less about the PW. All these guys are looking for is publicity, even if they have to resort to Twitter to get it.

Imagine that, a so-called law firm trying a case in the public's eye using Twitter! A new low, even for this bottom-feeding firm.


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Posted by Jason
a resident of Oak Hill
on Sep 29, 2015 at 9:26 am

Not unexpected that the Geregos law firm would be playing these games. That's what they do. Expect more such games from them in the future as the case goes on.


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Posted by Bill
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Sep 29, 2015 at 10:23 am

I'm sorry the family is blinded by grief, and hired these ambulance chasers.

The kid beat a cop unconscious. The kid made his own problems.


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Posted by Jerry
a resident of Downtown
on Sep 29, 2015 at 11:14 am

I for one would like to know the truth as to what really happened that night. Contra Costa Times is our only source of information so far.


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Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 29, 2015 at 1:11 pm

@Bill,

You're only getting one side of the story.


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Posted by DJohns
a resident of Downtown
on Sep 29, 2015 at 2:49 pm

DJohns is a registered user.

John Deming was an unarmed teenager who was experiencing a mental health break. PPD did not follow protocol for dealing with a disturbed person. We should all fear for our loved ones, if there is not accountability for a needless death. Trained professionals should have been able to manage the incident without killing someone's child.

I am glad there is pressure from the law firm to reveal the truth of what happened and demand accountability. I am glad the CC Times has been providing balanced coverage. I am hoping that the weekly will soon make up for their unbalanced coverage.


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Posted by AP
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 29, 2015 at 3:02 pm

DJohns, Are you on the investigating team? Part of the PPD? How do you know they didn't follow protocol? I'm glad a person who was disturbed enough to throw a fifty pound jack through a plate glass window, flee and then attach a police officer wasn't able to run into the surrounding neighborhood. Whatever the cause of his "mental health break", he was a danger not only to himself but whomever he came upon. Just glad he didn't make it to the homes in the area as I don't think a family would have been adequately prepared to defend themselves from such an attack.


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Posted by DJohns
a resident of Downtown
on Sep 29, 2015 at 3:46 pm

DJohns is a registered user.

Damage to property in NO way justifies the loss of life.
We know PPD attacked John with pain compliance weapons, at the point that protocol for dealing with a disturbed person would have suggested to keep a safe distance and de-escalate. There is no proof that John attacked anyone.

John had no weapon. If the possibility that he may have harmed someone is justification for killing him...heaven help us all!

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Posted by Jason
a resident of Oak Hill
on Sep 29, 2015 at 4:28 pm

I'm confused by claims by some that this John Deming was taking a "mental health break". What does that even mean? I looked up the definition of "mental health break" in Oxford's and the definition they give is "Time taken off work or school for rest or recuperation, which is claimed as sick leave." Obviously this is not the definition of "mental health break" that some people here are using to defend John Deming's actions. Does "mental health break" mean someone with no past history of mental illness suddenly going berserk?


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Posted by To jason
a resident of Amador Estates
on Sep 29, 2015 at 4:48 pm

It doesn't mean anything. These people have no idea. Every homicidal and/or violent person is having a mental health issue...right? So police should never use any force against anyone then. Just de escalate and give distance, according to Djohns, who clearly has no experience in the area but claims to know PPDs policy manual.


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Posted by Larry
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 29, 2015 at 5:18 pm

Djohn, you are right. He did not have any weapons. HE was the weapon. Mental health issue, drug issue, whatever. He acted that way, did not follow commands and ultimately attacked and resisted an arresting officer via means likely to produce great bodily injury. As allowed by law and policy, the officer defended himself after other options were exhausted. Don't want to get shot dead by the police? Then don't burglarize a business, resist arrest and attack an officer. And the officers didn't attack him with weapons, they used them (less lethal weapons at that) in an attempt to make an arrest. And you are right on one thing. Loss of life is not warranted for a property crime. His actions that night turned that from a property crime into a violent crime against an officer.


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Posted by Jerry
a resident of Downtown
on Sep 29, 2015 at 5:37 pm

Lots of cops on here defending the actions when we do not even know the facts. All parties and most importantly the police should be asking for the facts to come out and for that matter if I were the PPD I would ask for an independent investigation so as not to appear biased. Time for transparency.


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Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 29, 2015 at 6:00 pm

@Bill,

"... made his own problems."

And that cop that got shot and killed in Hayward made his own problems too. It was all that cop's decisions that got him killed. No one else to blame there.


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Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 29, 2015 at 6:03 pm

@Larry,

"... He acted that way, did not follow commands "

To the cop in Oakland that got shot and killed in Oakland, same with the cop. If he had followed commands he might have lived. Too bad the cop's bad choices got him shot and killed.


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Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Sep 29, 2015 at 10:31 pm

Not a cop.

Attack a cop and you risk your life. A call fod accountability is the correct request - who left him alone, how did he get there, what caused his behavior, and who is responsible for contributing to his death? It wasn't the police.


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Posted by Michael Austin
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Sep 30, 2015 at 6:36 am

Michael Austin is a registered user.

I guess the FBI is looking into the September 17, 2015 Cyber attack that shut down the Embarcadero Media wed sites, and the recent twitter attack by the law firm for any relationship.


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Posted by Quiet Town
a resident of Birdland
on Sep 30, 2015 at 8:45 am

Only the people there that night know exactly what happened. If the young man was having a "mental break" how would the police know that? They came upon a person acting crazy, destroying someone's property and not responding to orders from a peace officer. They tried non-lethal force - which did not deter the young man. No deadly force was used until he attacked the officer as it has been reported. At what point were the police supposed stop him? If he didn't attack the police officer, were they supposed to let him run away into the neighborhood? Attack a person there all because the police were supposed to talk this crazy man down instead of stopping him?

I am so sick of the police bashing that is going on, not only here but around the country. These men and women risk their lives every day to protect me and the people of the cities they work in. These criminals bring it upon themselves when they act up, don't listen to orders from police and decide to attack them or the public. It is sad that a life was lost, but had it not been for that young man's own actions, he would not be dead and a police officer would not have to live the rest of his life knowing that he took a life.

If you don't think the police of this town are doing things right, then I suggest you take the test, go through the training and start patrolling our streets. Then come back and tell us how you handled the person who, on a "mental health break", came at you.




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Posted by Charlie Brown
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Sep 30, 2015 at 8:49 am

APOLOGIZE! APOLOGIZE! APOLOGIZE! Today everyone is looking for an apology! I apologize if this post offends anyone!.


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Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2015 at 9:51 am

@"Quiet Town",

"If you don't think the police of this town are doing things right, then I suggest you take the test, go through the training and start patrolling our streets. "

What a bunch of BS! This attitude of "only police can criticize police" is just total nonsense. If the police could use more training on how to deal with the mentally ill then the police could use more training on how to deal with the mentally ill. It may take people who aren't police to push them to make the necessary changes. The same thing happens in other professions all the time. Sometimes it takes an outsider to point out flaws in an organization.

Who are the Pleasanton Police to say that they could learn nothing from outside groups, from other police forces, or from mental health professionals? It is sad that in this case that a young man died. It is sadder still that he may have died because of an inadequately trained police force.


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Posted by AlamedaCountyNative
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2015 at 10:12 am

DJOHNS,BobB after reading your posts I'm a little concerned for your welfare. Please stay in touch with this panel. The rainy season may be starting soon and you will need someone to bring you indoors.


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Posted by sueme
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2015 at 10:18 am

We put human beings in difficult positions like cops or soldiers or doctors and ask them to make 100% perfect decisions in difficult, life and death situations. Humans are not perfect. They, we, do the best we can to do the right thing. Sometimes, things go horribly wrong. People die. If we sue and prosecute these people for doing the best they can in horrible, difficult situations, eventually, no one will take the job. Because, as hard as we try, we are not perfect. We are human.


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Posted by pleasanton was nice forty years ago
a resident of Castlewood
on Sep 30, 2015 at 11:01 am

Attacked. Interesting term to use in your headline. Many of actual pleasanton residents are concerned about this incident and would like answers. The ppd has not been forthcoming. The pleasanton weekly in my opinion has clearly taken the side of the ppd and has not done any objective reporting regarding this incident. The article by Gina Allen is suspect at the very least.
Many without knowing the facts support the police If anyone questions the official police position your are lambasted by supporters of the pleasanton weekly or the pleasanton weekly removes the comments or entire article or closes it down to only registered users.
Gina's piece was an opinion piece to push their agenda. That agenda is not objective reporting of the facts and investigative journalism
If anyone is being attacked its people like me asking questions about the incident.
Like. How many officers where at the perimeter and how were they stationed?
How did no other officers see the scuffle and shooting?. How can all they said happen, happen in less they 22 seconds? Why did one officer want to talk to his supervisor on his personall cell phone? not have him call me back, but "have him call me back from his personal Cell phone" Their is a reason why he requested his superior use his personal cell phone. I would like to know but the police are not telling us and the pleasanton weekly it appears is not asking any questions.
The ppd work for us and owe us an explanaton of what happened and how it happened. If you are satisfied with the explanation, good for you. You will not tell me when i am satisfied. That might come after i get both sides of the story. One side and little info seams to be enough for many of you to already know the police acted properly. I mean why take any time to investigate it. So what someone died who cares? Right. After all you already know what happened because the police told you, Right!


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Posted by Sam
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2015 at 11:16 am

Pleasanton Was Nice Forty Years Ago,

Your post sounds like that of a conspiracy theorist. People like you will always have the ability to ask questions and will never ever be satisfied with the answers that are provided.

I won't tell you "when you are satisfied" because you never will be.


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Posted by Derek Barker
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2015 at 6:41 pm

When I see 40 likes on pro PPD post, I wonder how many computers there are at the PPD Station.


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Posted by Jason
a resident of Oak Hill
on Sep 30, 2015 at 7:20 pm

@Derek Barker

Given the inordinate interest that this big-time Los Angeles law firm of Geragos & Geragos has in the doings of a small, local newspaper like the Pleasnton Weekly, I have to wonder how many posts here are from people working for Geragos & Geragos. They wouldn't actually stoop so low as to plant fake posters on this site in order to try to influence public opinion on this case, would they? Naaahh...


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Posted by Pleasanton was nice forty years ago
a resident of Castlewood
on Sep 30, 2015 at 8:16 pm

Sam. you sound like one of those people who think they know everything and can read other people's minds
You can't. How many officers created the perimeter Sam? Why did they want to use personal phones?
Why are you so scared of questions Sam? Why do you accept the police version and do not have all the facts nor care to get all the facts before you decide? If you have not decided you would ask questions. Those that don't have any questions have made up their mind. Sam can you please tell us all what happened the night a Pleasanton police officer shot a person to death? Surely you must know these answers because you have never met me, talked to me or know anyone I know but somehow you can read my mind. So please Sam in your infinite wisdom tell us what happened that night.
Sam you can attact me as you did or you can answer all the questions and put this to rest.
High road or the low road Sam. Your choice


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Posted by Ptown Mom O2
a resident of Laguna Oaks
on Sep 30, 2015 at 8:54 pm

CCT coverage is no more illuminating than PW on the subject. If anything, it's disjointed and rambles about other, unrelated cases around the country. PW's point that they didn't test for every drug is spot on. Thanks PW for not falling prey to the drug test hype like CCT did by restating the press release headline in their article headline.

Media attacks by law firms are just theatrics and Geregos has plenty of experience there. Just sorry that our lovely little town is the target. Residents and PPD doesn't deserve it. Wish the kid had never exited the freeway...


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Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2015 at 9:50 pm

@Derek Barker,

I sincerely hope that all these "the police are always right" posts aren't coming from the Pleasanton Police Department. What a chilling thought.


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Posted by Sam
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2015 at 10:44 pm

Pleasanton Was Nice Forty Years Ago,
Couple of general principles involved here, suggest you check them out on Wikipedia.

1 - Occam's Razor. The principle that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. Conspiracy? Probably not. What would be the point? Cover-up? Again, probably not. Too many people involved to keep things a secret. Crazy man attacking police at 2AM gets shot? Probably.

2 - Ipso facto. The principle that the result in question is the direct effect of an action. John Deming was acting like a crazy man - perhaps he was a crazy man that evening - and as a direct consequence of his actions, which included attaching police officers, he was shot and killed.

I like questions. It's just that not all are relevant. Plus there are some that can never be answered. Why was John Deming acting the way he was that night? How scared for his own life was the policeman that shot him? Why is hindsight always so clear, and available for everyone to judge?


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Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Sep 30, 2015 at 10:49 pm

Are you so afraid of a community that supports rational thought and actually supports and respects the police department that supports it?


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Posted by Afraid
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2015 at 11:06 pm

The killing of an unarmed 19 year old by the Pleasanton Police Department was unnecessary, unwarranted, and inexcusable.

It reminds me of Kent State when the National Guard shot and killed four unarmed 19 and 20 year olds whose pictures are here Web Link . These students were over 100 yards away and were gunned down. Two of them weren't even in the location of the National Guard. Two of them were women - one a speech and hearing student going back to her dorm after class.

The lame excuse the National Guard said at the time is that some students threw rocks at the National Guard and felt threatened. This was after they said there was some sort of sniper on a roof that never existed. Then they came up with the 'rock throwing' excuse Does that justify opening fire on students over a football field's distance away? Absolutely not.

Like the murder of Mr. Deming, this was also unnecessary, unwarranted and inexcusable.

The killing of an unarmed teenager by the Pleasanton Police should make everyone afraid. What will they do next?




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Posted by Afraid
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2015 at 11:56 pm

In addition, the after the fact claim by the Pleasanton Police that the officer was in danger and that the shooting/murder was justified is straight out of the Ohio National Guard playbook for the Kent State shootings.

According to some FBI reports, the Guard conspired after the fact to come up with the "lives in danger" justification to avoid criminal prosecution.

I would hope that the Pleasanton Weekly could see the parallels between the PPDs position and what I.F. Stone's work uncovered with the Kent State killings. Hope the Pleasanton Weekly does not continue to be duped by the P.R. machine at Pleasanton City Hall.

From article summarizing work of I.F. Stone:

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"The Guardsmen shot, killing four and wounding thirteen. No one can make any sense out of the shooting; there was no sniping; the Guardsmen were neither in danger nor even surrounded; the number of rocks thrown was not large; and there was even plenty of tear gas-both FBI reports and the report by the Beacon-Journal make these facts clear. The only gun seized on campus that day belonged to a student taking pictures for the campus police.

.....

Rhodes lost the primary the next day and went into seclusion, refusing to speak to reporters for three weeks. But the cover-up was under way before that. According to the FBI report, the Guardsmen got together and agreed to say that they had been in danger and had fired to keep from being overrun by students who wanted to grab their guns and bayonet them. The Beacon-Journal report explodes this flimsy story by quoting a Guardsman as saying, "The guys have been saying that we got to get together and stick to the same story, that it was our lives or them, a matter of survival. I told them I would tell the truth and I wouldn't get in trouble that way."

THE FBI reports also destroy the story, reporting that only one Guardsman was seriously injured in the action before the firing, and that "the Guardsmen clearly did not believe that they were being fired upon." Photographs do not show Guardsmen crouching or seeking cover from rocks. And, the report says, "We have some reason to believe that the claim by Guardsmen that their lives were endangered by the students was fabricated after the fact." "


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Posted by Pleasanton resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 30, 2015 at 11:58 pm

I'm sure Geragos staffers could manage 40 posts on here, for the 19 year-old adult 'teenager'...who was legally a man.
Let's see, 18 year olds can enlist in our military, (17 w parents signature). 18 year olds are considered adult, so much so they can write and sign contracts!!!!....the legal age of 'majority'. Not a child in the eyes of authorities.


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Posted by Jason
a resident of Oak Hill
on Sep 30, 2015 at 11:59 pm

@BobB: "I sincerely hope that all these "the police are always right" posts aren't coming from the Pleasanton Police Department. What a chilling thought."

I think that the very fact that Derek would seriously suggest such an outrageously ridiculous idea and that you would back him up on that only goes to show how far removed from reality both of you are. You both just completely destroyed your own credibilities and showed everyone here that the accusations that you've been leveling against the PPD come from two individuals who possess wild, fanciful, and totally paranoid thought processes. Thanks and well done.


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Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 1, 2015 at 7:07 am

Earth to Jason,

Where have I "accused" anyone, "backed up" anyone? Go back and read what I wrote.


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Posted by DJohns
a resident of Downtown
on Oct 1, 2015 at 8:47 am

DJohns is a registered user.

Scientists have proven, with MRI technology, that the brain continues to develop into the 20's, with the frontal lobes responsible for reasoning and problem solving, developing last. Teenage boys especially have under developed brains effecting cognition and decision-making into their mid 20’s.
Psychosis is when a person has a break from reality, often involving seeing, hearing and believing. It is common for a first psychotic break to occur when a person is in their early 20’s. They become confused about what is real and what is not real, mistrustful, agitated, and panicky. This illness is no fault of their own; mental illness is not a choice. Web Link
We hear on the dispatch audio that John was agitated, confused and talking to himself. POST, CIT trained officers would have recognized that they were dealing with an individual in psychosis and implemented de-escalation and crisis resolution techniques. CIT techniques can save the lives of the officer and the citizen, it should be used in any crisis situation possible, for positive outcomes.
Responsible citizens demand accountability and work toward change when something needs to change. The death of this teenager is tragic evidence that change is needed... even in our little bastion of Pleasantville.
POST: Peace Officer Standard and Training Web Link CIT is an innovative concept that has helped law enforcement and their communities address mental health challenges with positive outcomes. The goal of CIT training is to provide law enforcement officers with the cognition, information, resources, and skills that allow effective problem-solving and promote positive outcomes when responding to incidents involving mental health consumers. This goal is achieved when officers exhibit, improved de-escalation and crisis resolution skills.


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Posted by Jason
a resident of Oak Hill
on Oct 1, 2015 at 9:22 am

DJohns said: "POST, CIT trained officers would have recognized that they were dealing with an individual in psychosis and implemented de-escalation and crisis resolution techniques. "

Is that your professional diagnosis and conclusion "Doctor" DJohns? That this John Deming was not on drugs but was actually an "individual in psychosis"? Pretty impressive that you were able to come up with a positive diagnosis that this individual was "in psychosis" given the fact that you have no professional psychiatric training and have never even met this individual.


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Posted by Sam
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 1, 2015 at 12:24 pm

You know, this is a great academic discussion. Brain development mapped with age, etc. Let's get back to the heart of the matter. When it's 2AM and dark and somebody is throwing things through windows and crazy enough to be beating on cops, there simply isn't time for a detailed analysis of why they are acting that way.


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Posted by Britt
a resident of Birdland
on Oct 1, 2015 at 12:51 pm

PPD is a good department with good people. That does not mean that there are not things that need to change. It would be concerning if members of the PPD were posting some of the harsh posts or even agreeing with them. The “Us against the public” is one of the things the must change. PPD needs to hear the concerns and criticisms from the public.

On July 26 a 19 year old white boy was killed by police. The report said the officer was in fear for his life but the autopsy shows he was shot in the back and the side. There are so many of these terrible incidents.
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Posted by Jason
a resident of Oak Hill
on Oct 1, 2015 at 1:13 pm

Britt wrote: "It would be concerning if members of the PPD were posting some of the harsh posts or even agreeing with them."

What I find concerning is that some people here are repeating this totally baseless insinuation against members of the PPD - you're the third one in this thread - while not one of you has offered the slightest shred of evidence to support your insinuations. Are you in a habit of repeating baseless insinuations and slandering others? Do you have any problems if I were to suggest that you have been embezzling from your employer? Why? I have just as much evidence that you've been embezzling from your employer as you have that members of the PPD have been "posting some of the harsh posts" here.


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Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 1, 2015 at 1:24 pm

Earth to Jason,

I never accused them of anything, only remarked that it was a chilling thought.

Meanwhile, many here have accused the law firm of planting posts here. It cuts both ways.


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Posted by Afraid
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 1, 2015 at 1:35 pm

The Pleasanton Police and City Hall are stonewalling the public and will not even disclose whether or not Kunkel was wearing a body camera. If I remember it correctly, first the PD said yes, then they said he should have been wearing one, and now they simply refuse to answer the question.

I also recall that when the SWAT team did a raid of a house owned by an actual Pleasanton police officer in the Fairlands neighborhood several years ago, the encounter was supposed to have been recorded, but they would not turn over the recordings, then I believe the PD claimed they were erased.

If Kunkel was wearing one, I wonder if the events do not support the PD's description of the events and that has ended up being erased as well. It makes no sense that a person shot several times including once in the face would continue to move, much less resist arrest.

The Pleasanton Police Department has destroyed its credibility and by its silence concerning refusing to answer basic questions like whether Kunkel had a camera that was on, they look like they are engaged in a massive cover-up.


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Posted by Jason
a resident of Oak Hill
on Oct 1, 2015 at 1:43 pm

BobB wrote: "I never accused them of anything, only remarked that it was a chilling thought."

No, you went beyond that. Instead of rebuking or ignoring a baseless, slanderous insinuation you just let the slanderous insinuation pass unchallenged and then elaborated on it.


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Posted by Afraid
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 1, 2015 at 1:50 pm

Jason, a fact, not a baseline, slanderous insinuation, is that the Pleasanton Police Department refuses to say whether Kunkel was wearing a body camera.

In your pro-police diatribes and your fixation on critics (i.e., anyone who dares question the police's Keystone Cops-like tactics in this fiasco), it seems that you are not asking simple questions. You take a quote of someone then attack the poster.

Instead of attacking the posters, why don't you all do us a favor and go to City Hall and find out whether Kunkel was wearing a body camera or not and obtain the footage for us all to see?


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Posted by BobB
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 7, 2015 at 12:26 pm

BobB is a registered user.

In face of criticism, police officials preaching are de-escalation tactics.

Web Link

It is sad to think that this young man could still be alive today if the officer had undergone this type of training.

"Indeed, Price said the Leesburg training sessions were met with some initial resistance among some officers, including combat veterans."

Certainly relevant in this case.


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Posted by DJohns
a resident of Downtown
on Oct 7, 2015 at 2:11 pm

DJohns is a registered user.

Great article, thanks for the link.
Pleasanton needs to step out in front of the change from Warrior to Guardian.

"As readily as police departments once snapped up surplus military gear, which bolstered a combat-ready presence on the street, law enforcement agencies are now embracing a collective strategy of de-escalation.

In Los Angeles, cops are being immersed in "preservation of life'' training. In Kansas City, it's called "tactical disengagement.'' San Diego police, meanwhile, are developing a curriculum to emphasize a strategy known as "emotional intelligence.''

The rush of new training is all geared to slow encounters between officers and the public they police, which in the past year has prompted spasms of civil unrest and contributed to an erosion of public trust in local law enforcement across the country.

"We are encouraging and training our officers to use critical thinking and problem solving to avoid a situation in which they have to shoot someone to protect themselves.''"

Web Link

And let's get rid of the tank.


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Nominations due by Sept. 17

Pleasanton Weekly and DanvilleSanRamon.com are once again putting out a call for nominations and sponsorships for the annual Tri-Valley Heroes awards - our salute to the community members dedicated to bettering the Tri-Valley and the lives of its residents.

Nomination form