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I-580 to be closed starting at 11 p.m. tonight at new BART station

Crews will connect overhead pedestrian walkways from station to Dublin side of freeway

After being delayed more than a year by engineering problems, contractors will be back at the new West Dublin/Pleasanton BART station tonight to connect the aerial pathways that will link the station to Dublin and Pleasanton.

Starting at 11 p.m. tonight, two lanes of westbound I-580 will be closed as construction crews prepare the walkways on the Dublin side of the freeway. All westbound lanes will actually be shut down completely from 2 a.m. to 6 a.m. early Sunday while the work is under way. All lanes are expected to re-open by 9 a.m. Sunday.

Traffic will be detoured from the Dougherty Road off-ramp to Dublin Boulevard where motorists can continue traveling west to San Ramon Road, where they can re-enter the freeway.

Although the steel pedestrian pathways were manufactured and ready two years ago, a year ago, Caltrans, which has oversight for the project, determined that the welds didn't meet the proper safety requirements and could not be repaired. The state transportation agency's standards were different than BART's which provided the contract specifications.

A BART spokesperson said at the time that it didn't appear the weldings were unsafe, but the agency differed to Caltrans requirement that they be rebuilt, with an additional $2.5 million added to the total cost due to welding problems.

The station is now expected to open late this year or early in 2011.

Installation of the pedestrian walkway on the Pleasanton side will take place over two weekends with eastbound lanes affected on July 10-11 and again on July 17-18.

Allyn Amsk, public information officer for Caltrans, said partial closures of the freeway's eastbound lanes will begin at 11 p.m. on both Saturdays with full closures from 2 a.m. to 6 a.m. both Sundays. Eastbound motorists will face detours at Foothill Road, where they will be directed to Stoneridge Drive to the northbound I-680 ramp and then back onto I-580.

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Posted by Larry
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jun 16, 2010 at 8:26 am

"but the agency differed to Caltrans requirement that they be rebuilt"

Actually, they *deferred* to Caltrans' requirement, in the sense that they did what Caltrans required.

Cheers,
Mr. Language Person


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Posted by Bowler
a resident of Pleasanton Middle School
on Jun 16, 2010 at 9:03 am

Please also note that the non-compliant welds were done in China by the same fabricator who provided non-compliant weld on sections of steel for the Bay Bridge. Caltrans specs for structural welding and other construction methods and materials are known throughout the world, and any suggestion that the Chinese were unaware of those requirements is hogwash.


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Posted by Benjamin
a resident of Gatewood
on Jun 16, 2010 at 10:45 am

I have been disappointed from the beginning that taxpayers are footing the bill for the replacements. When the job was bid, did they not pay attention to the specifications?


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Posted by dublinmike
a resident of Dublin
on Jun 16, 2010 at 10:48 am

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Finally!

Bowler, you are absolutely right.

Little trivia regarding "Caltrans specs ...known throughout the world," My brother, now retired from Caltrans and consulting to Bechtel and Parsons Brinckerhoff, was hired by a government agency in Turkey sometime back for recommendations regarding their road construction specs. If Turkey knows, then China has to know.

Expect more problems to come with other projects.


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Posted by David Cannon
a resident of Birdland
on Jun 16, 2010 at 1:43 pm

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Need to read carefully here guys. The overpass was built correctly to BART specifications (BART is the contractor). However, BART's specifications did not comply with Caltrans specifications. The mistake was made by BART not the firm that manufactured the bridges (country of manufacture was not the issue).


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Posted by US
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 16, 2010 at 1:57 pm

Country of manufacture may not have been the issue here, however it IS a big issue. When are going to wake up and stop giving money to China!


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Posted by David Cannon
a resident of Birdland
on Jun 16, 2010 at 2:56 pm

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Now you have 2 issues to raise with BART. 1st they wasted our money by not doing their job properly. To say the least, BART should be the one that knows what Caltrans requires. 2nd, BART should have a buy USA policy. Time to talk with the BART directors.


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Posted by David Cannon
a resident of Birdland
on Jun 16, 2010 at 3:07 pm

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Actually, I have a 3rd issue with this construction project; why did they build it? It is a stone's throw from the Pleasanton/Dublin station and the money could have been used towards a Livermore station (truly expand the service). Just does not make sense to me.


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Posted by Dublinmike
a resident of Dublin
on Jun 16, 2010 at 6:30 pm

Actually, David is correct. BART designed it to their specs. The unfortunate thing is that BART did not consult, or communicate clearly with Caltrans. And, I also blame Caltrans. Why would Caltrans managers drive by the project and not say "hey, what's going on? May be we should talk with BART people."

BART should have gone with USA. At least we could have the problem rectified sooner.

With respect to David mentioning why the location of West Dublin/Pleasanton BART. I agree. I really preferred Livermore. This may also explain why Mr. Pete Snyder was voted out. He compromised for the wrong reasons.

As a reference, San Leandro BART to the Bayfair Mall is around 3 miles. West Dublin to Dublin/Pleasanton is somewhere between 2 and 2.5 miles. Where they anticipating urban growth? Scares me. I'm out of here.. :)

Thanks David for some rational conversation.


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Posted by Arroyo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 16, 2010 at 7:43 pm

There are a great many true comments regarding the welds, and the lack of coordination between BARTD and Cal-Trans.

And, yes, it is true that Cal-Trans is known around the nation, and the world. It is known as one of the most bloated inept government bureaucracies that ever existed.


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Posted by Clarissa in Dublin
a resident of Dublin
on Jun 17, 2010 at 10:10 am

It is not entirely true that country of manufacture is not the issue. Any manufacturer is going to have project engineers working with the customer (BART). If those engineers are worth a hill of beans they are going to be reviewing the requirements and would know that these walkways were going to go over a California freeway and would hence be subject to Caltrans requirements. Therefore, there only two possibilities: 1) The Chinese manufacturer is (once again) incompentent, or 2) The Chinese manufacturer is (once again) choosing to cut corners any way they can. When are we going to quit buying everything we can from the Commie Chinese, who we know are trying to put the U. S. out of business??????????? Are we really that stupid as a nation?


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Posted by US
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 17, 2010 at 2:04 pm

Thank you Clarissa. I couldn't have said better.


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Posted by P-town Dad
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jun 18, 2010 at 9:16 am

Time and time again, the old adage applies: You Get What You Pay For.

Sometimes lowest price isn't the best route to go. I'm in a professional services business, and I know what it takes to do a quality job and earn a living. In any industry, there are "low-price" products or services that are significantly less than the norms. Buyer beware.

It doesn't make sense to outsource everything to other countries to save money. In some cases it makes sense to pay a little more to have something manufactured in the USA where the quality standards are proven and it keeps the money here. For the record I am a businessman who is a fiscal conservative, I am anti-union, and I believe in free market economics, yet there are limits to that. Personally, I'm a smart shopper - for things I value I pay a little more and for commodity items I'll shop around to find the best value.

You get what you pay for.


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Posted by Ptown Citizen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 18, 2010 at 10:19 am

The new station was partially funded by the owner of the adjacent property on the Dublin side. It is the only station to be built with private monies to date. The original owner agreed to fund the station in exchange for being able to build a high density residential complex, but has been unable to due to the recession. And the Western station has been in BART's original plan since 1997 hinging only on when they could secrure financing.

It's refreshing to see how well informed all of you "concerned citizens" are.

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Posted by Nice one... not
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 18, 2010 at 10:48 pm

Gee, Ptown Citizen, do you think you might have shared that well-informed information in a slightly less sarcastic manner?

I think a lot of the previous discussion revolved around the quality of the workmanship on the pedestrian walkways and only a few were discussing whether the proximity of the new Stoneridge Mall station (I know, the name is different, but this is the intent of the station) made much sense. Please read back over the entries and you'll see that this is the case.

But hey, it's always great when old-timers such as yourself can make new voices and questions look and feel like the stuff under your shoe. Thanks for the hand!


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