Council seeks tighter controls over pub's impact on neighborhood

Wants Redcoats to do better job of tamping down patrons' outside activities, cleaning up after closing

The Pleasanton City Council, in its consideration tonight of a four-month-old petition by Redcoats British Pub in downtown Pleasanton to add more days to its schedule of nighttime entertainment, will seek more surveillance of "wandering" party-goers who have upset residential neighbors.

Mari Kennard, owner of Redcoats, located on south side of St. Mary Street near Main Street, wants to add music and dancing from 9 p.m. to midnight on Wednesday and Thursday in addition to late night entertainment now allowed on Fridays and Saturdays.

Calling the new requirements a "good neighbor" policy, City Manager Nelson Fialho and Community Development Director Brian Dolan are asking the council to require that the business managers better control outside customer activities. They also want the busines "to perform an inspection with flashlights of neighborhood streets" after the pub closes for the night.

The council meeting will start at 7 p.m. at 200 Old Bernal Ave.

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Posted by resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Feb 2, 2010 at 5:31 pm

Does this mean that I can now drive down St Mary in the late evening and none of Redcoat's patrons will be throwing bottles at my car? I don't live near the pub but it does not seem reasonable that they be allowed to stay open late when there have been so many complaints. Drunk patrons, loud shouting patrons, people trashing the neighborhood. We could move near the clubs in SF or Oakland if we wanted that kind of nonsense. They have not managed to control the activities so far, why would anyone think that allowing them to be open late on two additional nights is a good idea? Are they still letting underage drinkers in for the late nights?

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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Feb 2, 2010 at 7:38 pm

unless you have proof, what you claim is HEARSAY!

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Posted by Kelly
a resident of Downtown
on Feb 3, 2010 at 5:39 am

I live near there and have not had any problems. I often drive near there around 11 pm or midnight on weekends and typically see a handful of people immediately in front of the Red Coats but usually they are just waiting in line or smoking. Sometimes I see a few people walking on the street near there - possibly back to cars that were parked elsewhere downtown or walking home but I have never had any problems.

And I have never seen my neighborhood thrashed. I live about 2 blocks down and run right by Red Coats every Saturday morning (after Friday night which is one of their larger crowds) and never have seen any thrashing of the neighborhood.

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Posted by David Cannon
a resident of Birdland
on Feb 3, 2010 at 7:13 am

David Cannon is a registered user.

I attended the city council hearing last night. Speakers included the city council, chief of police, neighbors (both business and residential), patrons and friends. It was quite clear that Redcoats is a respected and appreciated business in our downtown. The chief of police reviewed all reports for the past 2 years and clearly stated that Redcoats had a typical level of activity as compared to related businesses. No worse, no better. Based on the support of the community, downtown business association and neighbors, and the good business practices of Redcoats, the city council unanimously approved the extended use permit. Those are the facts, not the rumors.

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Posted by ptown mom
a resident of Del Prado
on Feb 3, 2010 at 7:56 am

We should be encouraging business in our downtown and give patrons as many ways to spend time downtown as possible. Redcoats is a great restaurant and one of the few places that are family friendly durring the day then adult at night. I say we encourage more business. Danville is able to have bars and restaurants open late and look how busy their downtown is and what a variety of businesses it has.

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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Feb 3, 2010 at 8:03 am

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I think there's a fear of downtown Pleasanton returning to its desperado ways with too many bars. Red Coats' location is somewhat visible since it is right on St. Mary's where cars make their way to other parts and patrons milling around outside attract attention. The owner could consider hiring a bouncer.

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Posted by anon
a resident of Downtown
on Feb 3, 2010 at 8:38 am

As a business owner downtown, we are thankful for the 'crowds' that Redcoats and other establishments create. It certainly helps to have a few nighttime customers, and many of them are from the bars and restaurants.

I am not certain if folks are aware that there are stores downtown that experience days with no customers. This is not because of their business, it is because of the economy and the lack of traffic generated by the downtown. And when we do create events, they are followed by complaints.

We should be proud, and also happy that these business' are staying' in Pleasanton, given the ease of restrictions everywhere else, and the constant complaining from citizens who made a choice to move into a commercial district.

Let's ALL build a better downtown together and get along doing it.

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Posted by Timothy T
a resident of Downtown
on Feb 3, 2010 at 8:45 am

Redcoats is not my kind of place or my kind of crowd (Beers and Bro's? No, thanks).

However, it's a good start to a vibrant downtown with a moderate nightlife. I'm not looking for Santana Row here but it would be nice to not try to walk in to Strizzi's at 7:50 on a Thursday and have the door locked because they're closing.

The more they stay open late, the more other places will stay open late and we got a nice place to have dinner after the Early Bird specials have expired.

Downtown really needs to be declared an entertainment district so that business owners don't have to spend tens of thousands going through these reviews. It's basically asking businesses to open up in Dublin or Livermore instead of Pleasanton.

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Posted by Patricia
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Feb 3, 2010 at 3:33 pm

Anyone who hasn't tried Redcoats fish & chips or shepherd's pie is really missing out!

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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Feb 3, 2010 at 4:20 pm

i think that the fish and pie are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay soggy...having lived in London for several years, it's not a pub...

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