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Local problems highlighted as Senate OKs extending funding for 'Clunkers' program

Dublin Honda dealer yet to be paid, another concerned about Website access

Even though the the U.S. Senate voted this week to approve additional funding for the "Cash for Clunkers" vehicle trade-in program,some Bay Area dealerships are worried about getting reimbursed for the trade-ins and the difficulty in using the government's Website for the program.

The program, officially called the Car Allowance Rebate System, has attracted great interest from consumers across the country. It gives a rebate of up to $4,500 toward a new car purchase for customers who turn in vehicles that are less than 25 years old.

Mike Ribeiro, sales director of San Francisco Honda, said employees at his dealership were having trouble using the Website, which was working slowly at times, if at all. Even Thursday, a search on www.cars.gov says no dealerships are registered for the program in San Francisco.

But Jim Bailey, general manager of Dublin Honda, said the Website has been working a lot better since then. However, he also worried about the reimbursement process.

"Everyone's very concerned," Bailey said. "I have a lot of contacts across the country and I don't know anybody that's been paid yet."

More than 184,000 deals had been made through the program nationwide as of last Wednesday for a value of $775.2 million, including more than $39.9 million in California, according to figures released by the U.S. Department of Transportation.

Brian Maas, director of government affairs for the California New Car Dealers Association, said the program has a double benefit for the country.

"It got consumers up off the couch and into dealerships looking to purchase new vehicles" and also gets rid of "some of the most polluting vehicles on the road," Maas said.

The Department of Transportation estimates that there has been a 61 percent increase in the average miles per gallon of the new vehicles purchased compared to the vehicles that were traded in.

Some Bay Area dealerships have sold more than 100 new vehicles through the program, such as San Francisco Toyota, which has sold more than 125, according to company president John Horton.

Bay City News, Jeb Bing

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Posted by Andy
a resident of Hacienda Gardens
on Aug 7, 2009 at 10:18 am

You car dealers out there better be VERY careful as to which computer you are using at your dealership when you submit the info to the "cars" website. When you first go to the website, you will have to click that you "accept the terms" of entering the website. Well, these are no ordinary terms!! Read the terms very carefully!!! The terms state that ANYTHING on your computer----anything-----becomes open to the US Government, and that your computer in essence becomes the property of the US Government. Anything you have on that specific computer is no longer secure---it is not open to the US Government. Your balance sheets, employee payrolls, etc, are ALL open to the government since you agreed that your computer is no longer your computer. Read the terms---it's right there in black and white. How's that hope and change working for you, America?


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Posted by Concerned Resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 7, 2009 at 11:23 am

Right On, Andy!

Same goes for Obamacare, as well. As stated in the HR 3200, Obama and his Regime will have full-control over your bank account. This is not the America I grew up in and is rapidly going downhill at breathtaking rate of "change."

The "change" that Obama referred to in his campaign...was not a spreading of wealth between the "haves" and "have nots", it is a wealth transfer from the "private sector" to the "public sector ..i.e. big govt" .


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Posted by Citizen 2
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 7, 2009 at 1:47 pm

Concerned Resident,

Could you please cite the sections of the proposed bill that clearly states this?


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Posted by Arroyo
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Aug 8, 2009 at 11:20 am

It bothers me greatly that the dealers must destroy the engines of vehicles that are much better than some poorer people are currently driving. And, the vehicles they are destroying probably pollute less than those being driven by the poorer people.

There are two things that could've been done better. One - only new American manufactured cars are qualified for the rebate; Two -"Clunkers" could be claimed by those currently driving older more polluting cars, with proof of ownership and insurance for the prior 12 months.

The program may be a "success" in some eyes, but it sure could've used more thought. (Kinda like the government healthcare Bill-- Are you reading this Mr. McNerney?)


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Posted by Citizen 2
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 9, 2009 at 9:03 pm

Concerned Resident,

You said 'Same goes for Obamacare, as well. As stated in the HR 3200, Obama and his Regime will have full-control over your bank account.'

Can you cite the section that states this for our information?


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Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Aug 9, 2009 at 11:09 pm

Arroyo - It bothers me greatly that the dealers must destroy the engines of vehicles that are much better than some poorer people are currently driving.

There are two things that could've been done better. One - only new American manufactured cars are qualified for the rebate; Two -"Clunkers" could be claimed by those currently driving older more polluting cars, with proof of ownership and insurance for the prior 12 months.



While it is true that the engines are being destroyed, you can take solice in knowing that the raw material - steel / aluminum will be recylced.

What are you defining as a "new American manufactured car"? Most vehicles use components from around the globe and manufacturing is equally as spread out. Are you defining it by make? Ford, GM, and Chrysler all utilize workforces outside of US borders while Toyota, Honda, BMW, and Porsche have assembly facilities within US borders as well. Limiting competition only hurts the consumer in the long run.

Your previous statement suggests that "poorer" people drive the higher polluting vehicles, even with a $4,500 rebate a "poorer" person isn't going to be able to afford a new vehicle (avg price $22,000) - that is why they drive he older used vehicles (and can't afford to maintain them properly).

While I agree with you on the healthcare reform, I think this program was actually a succesful use of taxpayer money (if it was going to be spent anyway).


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Posted by jhenry
a resident of California Somerset
on Aug 11, 2009 at 10:07 pm

That is correct, Only purchase or lease of new vehicles qualify


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