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BART's 2nd largest union rejects contract

Schwarzenegger says he won't declare cooling-off period

Members of BART's second-largest union voted yesterday against management's proposed contract, which calls for wage freezes for three years and a 0.75 percent increase in the fourth year.

Members of Amalgamated Transit Union Local 1555, which represents about 900 train operators, station agents and power workers, voted 100 percent against the contract. About 76 percent of the union voted, ATU Local 1555 President Jesse Hunt said late last night.

Members of the transit agency's largest union, the BART chapter of Local 1021 of the Service Employees International Union, which represents about 1,400 mechanics, custodians, safety inspectors and clerical employees, will vote on Thursday.

Leaders of the two largest unions said last week that they don't think management's proposed contract is very good but they want to give their members a chance to vote on it.

Jean Hamilton, the president of BART's third-largest union, Local 3993 of the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, which represents about 200 middle managers, hasn't yet scheduled a vote for her members because she said she needs to get more information from management.

The contract for the unions was to expire on June 30, but an agreement was reached to extend the contract until July 9.

Shortly before midnight July 9, leaders of the transit agency's two largest unions said they will have their members vote on management's contract offer even though they don't think it's very good.

Hunt said union leaders will be contacting state mediators and expects negotiations with BART management to resume sometime next week.

BART spokesman Linton Johnson said he expects negotiations to continue in a week or sooner.

Union leaders had said if union members vote to reject the contract, they would then ask Gov. Schwarzenegger to declare a 60-day cooling off period.

However, Schwarzenegger said yesterday that he won't declare a cooling off period in BART's negotiations with its labor unions if he's asked to do so.

In a short statement, Schwarzenegger said, "I urge the parties to continue bargaining and to successfully reach an agreement without any strikes, lock-outs or other job actions."

Schwarzenegger said, "The public expects that the parties will remain at the bargaining table until an agreement is reached."

BART and its five unions have been bargaining since April 1. Members of ATU Local 1555, SEIU Local 1021 and AFSCME Local 3993 all voted overwhelmingly last month to approve a strike if a settlement isn't reached on a new contract.

There also are two small unions that represent BART police officers and managers.

However, members of the police unions are barred from going on strike.

Jesse Dungan/Jeff Shuttleworth, Bay City News

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Posted by Another Gatetree Resident
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jul 15, 2009 at 5:12 am

I say let these BART workers strike. They think they can hold the Bay Area hostage in these tough economic times.

BART Management should lock them out when they walk and hire new workers from off the street. There are plenty of unemployed people out there willing to make concessions when others are not.


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Posted by Dave
a resident of Birdland
on Jul 15, 2009 at 8:54 am

I agree totally with Gatetree Resident. Listening to the news last night when one union member said; "It's not the money, its about human rights", made me sick. Benefits and wages that are the best in the entire country's rail system, and far exceed what most of us have for benefits, and they have the gall to even think strike. There are plenty of people ready, willing, and as well qualified as the current employees. Let them strike and see how much support they will get from the general population!


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Posted by Bob
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jul 15, 2009 at 9:16 am

Reality needs to slap these workers in the face to get them to understand just where the overall economy is. The entire Bay Area economy has been hit hard and employees at all levels in private industry are taking significant cuts, furlows, or losing their jobs all together. Also, those employees have nowhere near the level of benefit and retirement packages the BART workers enjoy. This is yet ANOTHER example of a Union being out of touch with reality.


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Posted by Barb
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 15, 2009 at 9:32 am

Absolutely lock out...replace with the 1000s of newly Unemployed who are about to lose the family home !! There is no end with this current BLACKMAIL & hostage system. Just too many people willing to work to allow this nonsense to continue. The outragous EXCESSES of these ignorant, UNeducated, PRIMA DONNAs, who don't seem to GRASP REALITY must be dealt a wake-up call. The new hires would be grateful & stop the greedy excesses they have been getting in their unheard of medical plan. It must stop now! Haven't these fools heard what people have been saying the last few weeks. WE MUST hold MANAGEMENT feet to the fire...to STAND FIRM !!


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Posted by Barb
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 15, 2009 at 9:36 am

These dummies are earning more than most hightly educated people....who are still PAYING of college loans ! The benefits are highway robbery, that are beyond what any buisiness or tech employees get. That's the scary part of dealing with the ignorant...they REALLY DON"T GET IT...irrational. WE'RE their victims.


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Posted by Bruce
a resident of Country Fair
on Jul 15, 2009 at 10:06 am

Pretty clear...they're saying they don't want the jobs as OFFERED, well OFFER the jobs to people who would be thrilled to have the jobs.
Don't let them blackmail us with their threats.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jul 15, 2009 at 10:56 am

It seems to me that there are lots of jealous bugs in Plutonia! Just because BART workers have good benefits, you're angry? What gives? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...?

They work long hours under difficult conditions. They deserve their benefits. If you're so unhappy with with they have earned, go back to where your ancestors came from and don't come back!

ta-ta...


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Posted by Barb
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 15, 2009 at 11:34 am

So cholo, you're a bit nasty to poasters....shame. THEIR benefits COST me my hard- earned money. From your "ENTITLEMENT" attitude, I assume you must live off the public tit yourself. Entitlement attitude comined with always availableto 'comment' ==== easy, over-paid public union job, permanent welfare recepient with entitlement attitude. I know, I bet you're an illegal to boot. I choose to be American because I respect the expectation of individual, personal of each & every person.. Financial classes are truly needed in all our schools, so even dummies could understand the value of money, value of a job & how the free market works. NO companies, NO jobs. The people ARE the employers of public jobs. Worth & value of a job & the availability of people to do the job determine the pay......NOT the employee.


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Posted by crooks
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 15, 2009 at 11:56 am

These blue collar workers are a dime a dozen. Lock them out and let them line up for unemployment benefits. What a bunch of crooks thinking they can hold us hostage in these economic times. Tons of replacements out there waiting to take their jobs...LOSERS!


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Posted by Dave
a resident of Birdland
on Jul 15, 2009 at 11:59 am

Thank you, Barb, for your reply to Cholo. I suspect that her/his purpose is to stir the pot a little. However, comments that include "long hours under difficult conditions" can only elicit laughter. I'm certainly not angry about their benefit plan,(well, I guess I am a little) but I do get riled up when they complain that it is not enough!


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Posted by resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 15, 2009 at 12:08 pm

As a 25 plus year union member this is hard for me to say but these people have no idea of the realities out there right now. Screw em. Lock em out and hire replacements. It is not a matter of jealousy or anything else. This is reality. The times do not warrant these greedy bas****ds holding the public hostage to their unreasonable demands. And to answer anyone who asks if I would, as a union member in good standing, cross their picket line -- I gotta say regretfully, yes I would.


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Posted by DontCave
a resident of Livermore
on Jul 15, 2009 at 12:46 pm

I for one did not receive a raise this year (first time since the 80s). Economy is in the pitts. I say each time they reject a plan, offer them less. Unemployment is close to 10%, Bart mgmt can easily find replacements!


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jul 15, 2009 at 1:06 pm

Be careful or else: Web Link

BART employees work hard for their benefits. If you don't appreciate what they do for you, pack your bag and go back to where your ancestors came from...flush!


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Posted by Barb
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 15, 2009 at 1:09 pm

The educated male engineer in my family had pay cut $10,000. in Jan. for rest of '09. That's reality. Public unions just don't get it.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jul 15, 2009 at 1:12 pm

pay up barby or swim across the bay....hahahahahahahaha...Web Link

signed,

Barb (y)


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Posted by sorry
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 15, 2009 at 3:22 pm

Seems no one is taking the bait Cholo. Go find another thread to stir up.


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Posted by lolo
a resident of Valley View Elementary School
on Jul 15, 2009 at 4:40 pm

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

signed,

Cholo


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Posted by Typical scene
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 15, 2009 at 4:54 pm

This scene is played out all over...

The government puts together a public "service" (BART, CalTrain, MUNI, etc) and a union gets their hands on it. Then the ones that are serviced (the public) get screwed by 1) sucky, nasty, public service 2) disruption of service secondary to union strikes and threats and 3) public subsidies AND public fare hikes.

Give it a rest. These "public" options SUCK. Now imagine how nasty, disruptive and high-cost a healthcare system run by the gov't would go. Somehow a union will get their hands in it. Hands off my health care.

Where is the logic? Unions need to end. The time is now.


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Posted by To Cholo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 15, 2009 at 4:57 pm

Cholo,

Just because you're on unemployment...again...and use up all of the free benefits that an illegal can get, doesn't give you the right to say rude things to upstanding citizens in Pleasanton. Why are you so interested in Pleasanton? Jealous??? Keep your nose where it belongs...in Livermore.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jul 15, 2009 at 5:43 pm

Tip of the Day: Sonia Sotomayor is a Wise Latina! VIVA!

Pee Wee Herman: "I know you are but what am I?"

I KNOW YOU ARE BUT WHAT AM I?

VIVA SONIA SOTOMAYOR....THE WISE LATINA!

TA-TA...TEE HEE HEE, TEE HEE HEE...VIVA!


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Posted by Another Gatetree Resident
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jul 16, 2009 at 5:34 am

Do not get me wrong. I am NOT anti-Union.

Other Unions are negotiating in good faith for their members, yet keeping those they work for in mind. While many "locals" of CWA are still negotiating AND working under EXPIRED contracts, District 4 in the MidWest has reached a tentative agreement. Was it all a win? No. However, the contract ensures represented employees of AT&T have:
1) Maintained and improved their Standard of Living
2) Protected Retirees
3) Enhanced employment security

Key are changes in health care. The represented workers will see an increased out of pocket cost. However, when wages and the new company-funded tax-free Healthcare Reimbursement Accounts (HRAs) are factored in, the membership better off, on average, in every year of the tentative contract.

It's about give and take. BART represented employees appear to have forgotten the "give" portion.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Jul 20, 2009 at 4:43 pm

Not so fast...you pay the fee and BART employees "GIVE" you a ride across the bay.

problem solved...


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