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Woman robbed of purse in 9 a.m. hold-up on Pleasanton's Main Street

Original post made on Nov 16, 2012

A woman told police she was held up at 9:15 a.m. Nov. 10 in the 300 block of Main Street, near the Bank of America. The woman said a $200 purse was taken from her, along with a $20 wallet and miscellaneous credit cards.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, November 16, 2012, 7:40 AM

Comments

Posted by William Tell, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 16, 2012 at 8:21 am

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Posted by doug, a resident of Birdland
on Nov 16, 2012 at 9:54 am

If you look at just the last 2 previous years list of police events and compare it to this years, there is a rise in vandalism, theft, and drunken/drug events. Could be the economy and no jobs, could be we are breeding graduating more out of control youth. No matter the cause we need to start observing and altering the behavior course of these "on the rise" numbers, especially in domestic violence which too is alarming.


Posted by Carlos, a resident of Highland Oaks
on Nov 16, 2012 at 10:24 am

Get used to it. Wtih the changing demographics of this valley we're going to see more and more of it. Anybody up for starting a pool for when the drive by shootings start?


Posted by Laurie J., a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 16, 2012 at 11:15 am

Even though serious crime is up, I still see a large percentage of Pleasanton police trolling for speeders. I think the speed patrol needs to be reassigned to crime patrol. I'm a lot more worried about getting shot, assaulted, raped or robbed than I am of getting hit by a speeder.

And in case your are wondering, I have never received a speeding ticket, so don't think that's my issue.


Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill
on Nov 16, 2012 at 12:16 pm

Laurie said: "Even though serious crime is up, I still see a large percentage of Pleasanton police trolling for speeders. I think the speed patrol needs to be reassigned to crime patrol. I'm a lot more worried about getting shot, assaulted, raped or robbed than I am of getting hit by a speeder."

Well, actually, you should be more worried about getting hit by a speeder because statistically speaking that's much more likely to happen to you than any of the other things you mentioned if you live in Pleasanton.

Also, on what evidence are you basing your claim that "serious crime is up"? In looking through the last Pleasanton Annual Police Report for 2011, it appears that the total number of Pleasanton crimes in 2011 was less than in any other year in the 5-year period of 2007-2011. Same with violent crimes: The number of violent Pleasanton crimes in 2011 was less than in any other year in the 5-year period of 2007 to 2011.

Furthermore, if you look at crimes over a longer time period back to, say, the early 1990's, you'll see that there is a long-term downward trend to the number of crimes in Pleasanton. For example, the total number of crimes in Pleasanton per capita in 1994 was about twice that in 2011.

Sorry to spoil the gripe-fest here, but I don't the factual evidence supports the view that crime in Pleasanton is any worse than in the past.


Posted by Murph, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 16, 2012 at 2:07 pm

Always enjoy your contributions, Sam. You seem to have more patience than most with those who attempt to pass off right-wing fictional fantasy as the truth.


Posted by M, a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Nov 16, 2012 at 5:58 pm

Statistics can be skewed to create desired effects.
I have been in the Tri-Valley area for 40yrs and I have seen/heard about increasing crime. I do think Pleasanton has gotten worse but I think it has gotten worse just about everwhere so people are becoming desensitized to it. I do also believe it is partially due to urban sprawl.


Posted by Me Too, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 16, 2012 at 8:06 pm

"Well, actually, you should be more worried about getting hit by a speeder because statistically speaking that's much more likely to happen to you than any of the other things you mentioned if you live in Pleasanton."

I'd like to see those stats, do you have them he m link to them? Thanks!


Posted by Lmn, a resident of Castlewood
on Nov 16, 2012 at 9:10 pm

Those stats don't include 2012. Don't forget this year a woman's body was dumped in pleasanton and I think there were two rapes including one by a man pretending to be a cop. Then we had the murder suicide. And I don't recall the exact date but within the last year, poor Michelle Le was found here too. And then a village student almost died after being stabbed by another Pleasanton kid and there was even a stabbing last night off if vineyard.

Denial isn't good for anyone. crime IS definitely up in Pleasanton. I've lived her for thirty years and it saddens me, but burying my head in the sand or quoting outdated statistics isn't going to help my family stay safe in these changing times.


Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill
on Nov 16, 2012 at 10:04 pm

Lmn said: "Those stats don't include 2012"

I doubt that there has been a sudden, dramatic change in the Pleasanton crime rates in the space of one year from 2011 to 2012. As for the woman whose body was found dumped in Pleasanton and the Michelle Le case, those murders are charged to the crime statistics of Stockton and Union City, respectively, and not to Pleasanton.

As for comparing the total number of Pleasanton crimes in 2011 to the number of Pleasanton crimes in some year 30 or 40 years ago, I'm pretty sure that the TOTAL number of crimes annually is greater now for the simple reason that the population of Pleasanton is about 3 or 4 times larger than it was 30 or 40 years ago. But that's not the proper way to make a comparison. The proper comparison is to look at the per capita crime rate, which is a better indicator of the chances of any one individual being a crime victim. As I already mentioned, on a per capita basis, the crime rate in 2011 was about half what it was in 1994. Is anyone here cheering the fact that per capita crime Pleasanton rates today are about half what they were in 1994? No you would rather gripe and complain and ignore the factual evidence. Griping and complaining: The great American Pastime.

To "Me Too" . Here's a link to the 2011 Pleasanton Police Annual Report:
Web Link


Posted by Steve, a resident of Stoneridge
on Nov 16, 2012 at 10:24 pm

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Posted by john, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 16, 2012 at 10:31 pm

Thank you Sam for presenting the facts. People so rarely understand statistics. There is abundant evidence that serious crime is down over the last several decades, not just in Pleasanton, but throughout the country.

Some people don't understand the difference between anecdotal evidence and statistical evidence.

Web Link


Posted by john, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 16, 2012 at 10:38 pm

[This post was removed because it was only a story copied from another publication. If it had included discussion and referenced a link to the other publication, that would have been acceptable.)


Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill
on Nov 16, 2012 at 11:36 pm

John said: "Thank you Sam for presenting the facts. People so rarely understand statistics. There is abundant evidence that serious crime is down over the last several decades, not just in Pleasanton, but throughout the country."

You're welcome but no deep digging was required. All of the facts I presented are right there in nicely laid out graphs and tables in the Pleasanton Police Annual Report on their website. And, yes, there have been many news stories such as the ones you linked that report that the rate of violent crimes and homicides has been decreasing over the past few decades, but for some reason people refuse to believe it. There's a strange nostalgia for the past that seems to drive many people to believe that things were better in the "good old days" than they actually were.


Posted by PRIORITIZE THE POLICE FOR THE PEOPLE, a resident of Castlewood
on Nov 17, 2012 at 9:15 am

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Posted by john, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 17, 2012 at 12:14 pm

Dear Pleasanton Weekly,

The links I provided were a continuation of my previous post, and were meant to provide an answer to a question posed by another post.


Posted by W Ron Sutton, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 17, 2012 at 2:03 pm

Thank you Sam for taking the time to explain it all. As you probably know, FactCheck.org checks major political communication with national significance and continues to see people refusing to believe "checked facts" apparently because it doesn't fit "their view of 'facts' or beliefs." And, the people and organizations who continue to feed that view are helping to polarize us, instead of bringing us together in common purpose for real solutions to real problems. Been stated before that 1/2 of finding any solution is to properly define the problem. Facts go a long way to helping define the problem.


Posted by Sam the sham, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 17, 2012 at 7:13 pm

Sam, can't wait to hear your opinion of the stats when one of your friends or relatives is the victim of a violent crime. Maybe we should reduce police presence in your neighborhood given your overabundance of confidence. Of course, you could care less for the victims of crime, you're just arrogantly trying to defend the numbers you dug up......good luck not becoming another statistic.


Posted by john, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 17, 2012 at 8:54 pm

To "Sam the sham",

Sam correctly pointed out that the Pleasanton police were right to focus their attention on speeders and drunk drivers because people are far more likely to be killed or injured in traffic accidents than they are to be killed or injured by thieves or murderers. The Pleasanton police are doing what they need to be doing.


Posted by William Tell, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 18, 2012 at 10:09 am

Apparently the guidelines for comments is that you can't post anything Mr. Wohltmann doesn't agree with.


Posted by Murph, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 18, 2012 at 10:18 am

Ewwww, I'd delete 'Billy Budd' not only on grounds of taste but also because he is completely ignorant of Billy Budd and either hasn't read the story or read it and is too cluttered upstairs (in the closet) to understand the story's meaning. Yet another demo of right-wing classlessness from the likes of Wm Tell, Billy Budd, and the rest of the losers who continue to show they haven't got a clue.