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Prop 8 funding - very interesting

Original post made by Grace on Oct 29, 2008

The SF Chronicle has the link on their website to search the public-record database of where the funding both for and against Prop 8 has come from:
Web Link

If you select "CA" for state, it will then allow you to select "Pleasanton" for city. Check it out. I find it *very* interesting the number of very high donations FOR Prop 8 from folks here in Pleasanton -- $25,000 donations, many $10,000 donations, etc. The donations AGAINST Prop 8 are more what you'd expect from individuals -- $25, $50, $100.

This makes me wonder two things: 1) Are these very large donations FOR Prop 8 really from individuals, or has a church funneled money from a general fund through these donors? and 2) Has a church (or churches) told their members that if they donate large sums of money, this would be considered their "tithe" for the year (or subsequent years)?

Comments

Posted by Just sayin', a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 29, 2008 at 3:12 pm

I think you will find the largest to be Mormons, exhorted by their church to donate...


Posted by PJ, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 29, 2008 at 3:28 pm

I think you will find the largest to be CTA teachers, exhorted by their union to donate...


Posted by Grace, a resident of Foothill High School
on Oct 29, 2008 at 3:59 pm

PJ,
What you said is a bit confusing. So the biggest contributors are teachers, and they are FOR Prop 8?

If that's not what you're saying, then you might take a look at the chart. Every one of the donations over $1000 is in support of Prop 8, and there are some hefty figures in there. Aside from a single $1000 donation and a single $385 donation, every one of the donations to the AGAINST Prop 8 is $250 or less.


Posted by Perhaps?, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 29, 2008 at 4:01 pm

Perhaps the largest is Jeb and the Pleasanton Weekly???


Posted by PJ, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 29, 2008 at 4:13 pm

Grace, check the CTA contribution that teachers were forced to contribute to "whether they like it or not". That money came from contributions from the members via the union.


Posted by Just sayin', a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 29, 2008 at 4:34 pm

Mormon donations FAR outweigh the CTA, go check the facts


Posted by Fred, a resident of Kottinger Ranch
on Oct 29, 2008 at 4:36 pm

(Comment deemed inappropriate by Pleasanton Weekly Online staff)


Posted by taxpayer, a resident of Downtown
on Oct 29, 2008 at 5:42 pm

Grace, good source of info about donations. Is the "Joanne Mccolm", listed as a "homemaker" who donated $25,000 related to Larry Mccolm the property owner at 350 Main? Has the mormon church actually told them that this $25,000 is a "tithe"? You can bet the IRS is gonna find out. They check these donor records regularly. I personally know one LDS family who mistakenly included me on the CC line of a mass email stating that everyone should donate $10,000 or more **and be sure to use it as a charitable deduction on the tax returns**.


Posted by PJ, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 29, 2008 at 9:15 pm

Prop 8 funding - very interesting

These folks had a choice to donate or not.

My point is that I find it more interesting in looking into why CTA Members are forced to support a cause with their hard earned money to raise over a million dollars for a political cause not directly related to their work conditions. Now that's very interesting.


Posted by mac, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 31, 2008 at 12:29 am

I'm with you, PJ. The point, and comparison, went right over Grace's head.

And what's with all the Mormon hating? Do you think for one minute the Catholic's and other Christian groups are not feeling some moral compass here?

And besides...it is not only a religious issue. There are other reasons some will be considering...like, say, "redefinition" of the term "marriage" used for over 2000 years.

Give the Mormons a break!




Posted by mac, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 31, 2008 at 12:30 am

Oops, that should have read "Catholics, Jews, and other religious groups"...






Posted by Grace, a resident of Foothill High School
on Oct 31, 2008 at 8:53 am

Actually, Mac, the comparison did not go right over my head, since at the time I was referring *only* to the figures for donations *in* Pleasanton, and there was no California Teachers Association entry for Pleasanton. THAT is why I asked PJ for clarification. What he said was confusing in that context, and that is the context that we were discussing at the time.

Note that I did not mention the Mormon church once. I had written "church (or churches)".


Posted by RaZ, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 31, 2008 at 9:01 am

That is a freedom we have, to donate money where we see fit. As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints nobody "forces" me to pay money, it is my choice. As for "tithe", to even say such a misconception just baffles me. Writing a check to prop 8 is entirely different then writing a check to the church.

Yes, these individuals have paid the money themselves. Why? Because they stand for something they believe in. It should be no surprise to the World that the Mormon faith holds family in the up most importance. They put the money where their mouth is. These Mormons that you are trying to point out do not just preach, they act, they live their religion everyday. And if your home burned down and you had no insurance and they were asked to help you finacially and physically-- they would be there! No matter who you are or what you believe in. Guaranteed! And the labor and money would be their own- not from tithe.

I read in a newspaper that this "list" has been used to target individuals, to threaten them. Please do not go after people who have the "right" as much as you do to be heard. I respect any "individual" who donates what they can to whatever cause they believe in, even if it is Yes or No on Prop 8.


Posted by Julie, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Oct 31, 2008 at 9:05 pm

I think that's terrible people have been targeted! We should be able to express our views without fear of any sort of retaliation.


Posted by Robyn, a resident of Dublin
on Nov 16, 2008 at 6:56 pm

This is the most ridiculous article i've ever read! I'm sure you can come up with something better than that! Of course there are high donations in Pleasanton because there are a lot of wealthy people living in Pleasanton. There are also a lot of Mormons in Pleasanton and their willingness to donate so generously to this cause only shows how passionate they are about traditional marriage. Members of the Mormon church are used to donating generously because they donate 10% of their income to the church already. Maybe Mormons have learned to put their morals about their money. A $25, $50, $100 donation? What is that? A night at the movies? A dinner? If that's how passionate the "No on 8" supporters were then it's no wonder they lost!