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What a pathetic situation. California is bankrupt yet Gov. Moonbeam and the ignorant socialist dolts in the legilature commit building a bullet train that will likely cost $150 BILLION (the $68 billion estimate now is widely regraded as way below the actual cost). At the same time, Moonbeam wants a massive tax increase now with many more to come. Just how crazy are Californians?
No money for schools, but lots of money to build useless trains. This is what we get from the Democrats that Californians keep sending to Sacramento. Wake up folks and vote Republican.
Amen! Makes my bumper sticker "I think, therefore, I vote conservative!" punch even a bigger whallup!
We are comical fodder for all of the nation and world because liberal Californians are so stupid. They (Democrats) paint all of us into corners on a habitual basis. Unfortunately, once in, it's hard to get out. Still hoping.
Aside from the obvious fact that we don't need a bullet train,CAN SOMEONE PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE TELL ME WHERE THE $8 BILLION COMES FROM? I MEAN REALLY? GOOD GRIEF ALREADY, GROW UP!
John, I'll tell you where the 8 billion comes from: do your homework! Also, your caps lock looks like it's stuck. GROW UP!
John, Here's one explanation: Web Link)
Here's another: Web Link
And PBS coverage from March: Web Link
hear that "swirling" sound?
it is california circling the drain, thanks to the democrat party.
here we go.
I just can't understand why people can't accept the idea of automobiles. Ann and I couldn't do without our 4 Caddies. What's good for General Motors is good for America. I love my Caddies like I love my children, and I'm happy to show them to you. My tax returns? No way, for gosh sakes. That would give the public something to criticize about me. That wouldn't be fair, to me.
Like Nigel said this is not 68 billion. It will be more than 150 billion by the time all the infrastructure is in place. If you add in 30 years worth of interest to this 150 billion you double the amount that is owed. Just the initial 9 billion stated in Proposition 1A would require the state to pay 650 million per year out of the general fund! The only organizations to donate to the passage of prop 1A were unions. They could see this sleaze coming a mile away. If you took all the money that is needed to completely fund this boondoggle, you could have given every man, woman, and child living in California 150 round trip airline tickets between LAX and SFO. For a typical person this is several lifetime trips.
Of note, the Surfliner (San Diego to Santa Barbara) rail service recaptures the most operating costs of any California public rail service. It still needs 30% of its operating costs to be subsidized.
A typical load of passengers is around 400 persons. How long do you think that "in your pants" TSA agents will take to frisk 400 people. In a typical airport terminal there might be 4 lanes of security check-in stations. At this rate it would take 3 hours to clear 400 people.
On your ticket it will have the phase "please arrive at the station 3 hours before boarding". Yeah that will make everyone want to take high speed rail.
In your pants fixation? Just asking. But I do agree with you, and would also be willing to hire you as my accountant if you'd like the job. Your mathematical wizardry is second only to Arnold.
How do you like this one Mr. Mittens -
The CA high speed rail is expected to add 5% more load to PG&E's power grid (by the way PG&E was an eager supporter of HSR). At 5% more load a choice is going to have to be made on where electricity is cut in order to support HSR during peak demand conditions. So if it is 100 degrees in the shade and your air conditioner goes off along with your neighborhood's electrical supply, you can thank goodness that the high speed rail trains still have power.
It is estimated that this train system will take 3,000GWh of electricity per year of operation. Diablo Canyon nuclear power generator produces 18,000GWh that supports 2.2 million people.
I don't see anyone building a power supply generator capable of supplying this demand. And remember all the electricity generated in the future must come from clean technology. No carbon footprint allowed. So guess what your electrical rates are going to do. We will be paying electrical rates that are higher then Hawaii's which are the most expensive in the nation.
When asked about the particulars on this subject, the High Speed Rail Authority answered "its part of the vision".
Question - why do officials and professionals that have expertise in transportation to include high speed trains oppose this project while officials that don't have any expertise are in favor of the project?
I think you're missing Bill's point, Mittens. How are we going to pay for the security necessary to make sure no terror babies hijack the train and crash it into a building?
Lou, I think you're missing Bill's point--there's no infrastructure in place to supply adequate power to the new choo-choo to nowhere. To resolve this issue and fulfill gov moonbeam's legacy, we'll have to install solar panels on every square in of the state (except where Barbara Boxer and Pelosi live) and pray to God they fog nevers rolls in and it never gets dark.
Regarding your security sarcasm, maybe you should suggest employing the same security used for trains in Europe. They have terrorists blowing up trains, killing hundreds (Madrid,Luxembourg, Moscow), but that could never happen here...gov jerry won't stand for it...it might tarnish his legacy.
Where's Linda Ronstadt to provide him with the distraction he so obviously needs?
Like the Linda Ronstadt reference. Yes her, and Jerry need to go back to Africa on a safari. Take a hike up Kilimanjaro never to be seen or heard of again...you can only hope :-)
The governor is married. Web Link
All three of them can take a hike.