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New Education Bill Gotchas

Original post made by javadoc, Dublin, on Jun 30, 2011

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This is why I do not want unionized teachers "educating" my children. It's all about the kids, ha!

And then the gall of our overlords in Sacramento, telling people that they are forbidden BY LAW to take notice of the large train bearing down on them.

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Posted by Good!
a resident of Country Fair
on Jun 30, 2011 at 1:59 pm

Well, spend the extra money and send your kids to private school. I highly doubt teachers want your child in their classroom, seeing what you are like.

As for me, it's about time education became a priority. Time to nail those businesses who don't pay their taxes and stop giving tax breaks to the wealthy. Please - lowest taxes since the 50's. I can't believe how much we protect the wealthy, especially considering most of us don't fit into that category.


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Posted by javadoc
a resident of Dublin
on Jun 30, 2011 at 2:06 pm

javadoc is a registered user.

Do you have an opinion about the elements of the education bill?

Should I infer "what you are like" from your post?

Are there other ways to make education a priority apart from crying for more more more money from your hated classes?


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Posted by concerned
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 30, 2011 at 3:04 pm

Good! and javadoc,

I did the private school thing for 2 years with my kids, then moved to Pleasanton for the schools. The private schools around here mainly take your money and provide little if any advantage over Pleasanton schools. I didn't see anything better about them except smaller classes, but that wasn't nearly worth the money. Javadoc, are you worried about some kind of pro-union slant to what public school teachers say in the classroom. I've volunteered for several years here in Pleasanton and haven't seen any of that. Dublin schools are another story.


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Posted by Lil' Joe
a resident of Ponderosa
on Jul 1, 2011 at 6:14 am

Since the recession ended the wealthy have garnered 88% of the income increases. Cal State students are going to have to pay an additional 23% in tuition and fees for reduced services this year. How is it some Cal State teachers, after spending 8-10 years in grad school without earning a steady income, suddenly think that having earned a Ph.D. they suddenly deserve to make 60 grand a year? That's the union for ya. What a bunch of thugs and crybabies.


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Posted by javadoc
a resident of Dublin
on Jul 1, 2011 at 2:44 pm

javadoc is a registered user.

concerned:

Here is a quote from a recent AP story (Web Link), spoken by a PR guy for the California Federation of Teachers regarding an increase in the progressive tax rate:

"Our polling shows us clearly that this is a winner, that very high numbers of the public and likely voters agree that the wealthiest Californians should contribute more," said Fred Glass, the federation's communications director. "I think there's a growing recognition that it's not that California's broke. We have plenty of money in this state; it's just in other pockets."

How many of the "rank and file" teachers feel that way? How do they feel about feeding the beast that says such things? Do they really think they are entitled to dunk their hands in "the pockets where the money is?"

The government employee unions must be busted. Andrew Klavan had a great video featurette recently that showed, in simple terms, how government employee unions and the politicians they elect conspire to take ever more money from taxpayers, in a positive feedback loop. The union is an advocate for the teachers, promoting their gain at all costs - it DOES NOT advocate for the students. We the taxpayers have no advocate in the system due to the positive feedback loop mentioned above.

So I am not solely concerned with my kids getting a slanted education. Every dollar of mine that flows into a unionized teachers' salary is a dollar that feeds a beast I want to see slain, a beast that seeks to harm me in the long run, a beast that does not care about "the kids."

Take a look at the articles the LA Times has been running recently about how they are trying to assess teacher quality through studies of recent student performance data, and how much pushback they are getting from the unions. The union leadership doesn't care whether kids are getting the best teachers. They don't care if automatic, contractual raises (in tough times!) are based on irrelevant criteria. Keep the union dues flowing, keep political power on the ascendance, and all is well in union-land.

As for the current education bill, where has it been shown that "the kids" are harmed least by forcing school districts to retain every single teacher, and rather to deal with deficits by eliminating entire school days?

Beware the state of affairs Churchill spoke of in one of his addresses, when the civil servants are no longer servants, nor civil.


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Posted by Leland
a resident of Happy Valley
on Jul 2, 2011 at 6:23 am

Javadoc is so right. The teachers have their union thugs, but the rich don't have anyone to do their bidding. No lawyers, no consultants, no lobbiests, no politicians in their pockets, no think tank shills, no newspapers, no tv or radio networks. Nothing. Let's all lament the powerlessness of the rich in the face of the evildoer teacher union beast that needs to be slain. Good thinking. Slay the beast! These words ring so true ... like Paul Revere's whistles and chimes.


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Posted by How will that happen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 2, 2011 at 5:09 pm

If due to lack of funds, a school district needs to terminate a teacher or two, the Dem legislature take a cut or they'll just pay those teachers directly from their own personal funds, with all the extra money the unions laid on them. Oh forgot, I bet they've learned some nifty magic trick.


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Posted by Blamer
a resident of Dublin
on Jul 3, 2011 at 12:03 pm

According to the rabid wealthy minority in this country; the unions are coming! The unions are coming! Hide your thoughts, your politics, your respect for others because the unions are out to take the last dollar from your pocket. The unions are coming.

People who hoard wealth, while others suffer are the reason why the unions are coming.


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Posted by Leland
a resident of Happy Valley
on Jul 3, 2011 at 1:21 pm

Hey Blamer, why play the blame game? We all know unions suck. And why NOT hoard one's wealth? Most poor people and working-stiff suckers wouldn't know what to do with one of my four corporate jets. And all the union teachers do is spread the kind of negative thinking associated with the blame game. As you celebrate the 4th, think of what a great country this is for me. All of us can't sing as well as Britney, but we can identify with her greatness. All of us can't inherit 1/2 a billion like I have, but we can identify with my wealth and comfort can't we? Bless you all on the beautiful 4th of July celebration of an independence movement that protects me from the nasty union beast.


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Posted by Mike
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Jul 3, 2011 at 3:32 pm

If you feel that unions have the power, then the logical way to counter them is to become one: unionize the public, feed your dues into politicians that fight against the unions that are pulling money out of the public's pockets.


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Posted by Laughing Out Loud!
a resident of Mission Park
on Jul 4, 2011 at 9:10 pm

The teachers and their unions are like Oliver Twist, give me more, give me more please, no not please...give me more damnit! Your not entitled to more! Throw some more money at your failed efforts. Make education a priority? You crack me up. The US spends more per student than any other developed country, yet rank near the bottom because you are mostly lame and dumber than the students themselves. You could care less about the kids, only your cush jobs and long summers with pay. I'm serious, we have people teaching our kids who could never have held a decent job in the private sector then they bleed us dry and complain its not enough.

Ok, were a 37% federal income tax bracket, 10% for state taxes and 6% for property taxes, your getting 53% of my income now and you all want more? Most of you are not paying ANY Fedreal income tax. You make me sick. Lay off 10,000 teachers and the education in California would be none for the worse. Get the hell out of these crazy wars and deployments to balance the budget, stop pandering to illegal immigrants and then you keep your hands off what I earn to take care of my family.


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Posted by comment
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 4, 2011 at 10:20 pm

To "Laughing Out Loud!"

You left out:

Hands off Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.
Hands of defense.


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Posted by Reader
a resident of Del Prado
on Jul 5, 2011 at 6:44 am

Unlike "Laughing Out Loud," I've actually read Charles Dickens' works. The young lad asking for more food was wretchedly malnourished. To criticize unions by referencing Oliver Twist has to be one of the most twisted exemplars of illogical thinking and ignorance I've ever read on these posts. Dear "LOL." Read a book. If that doesn't help, there's always remedial education programs available for the ignorant and cognitively challenged like yourself.