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Police Helicopter Lands in Vintage Hills Center

Original post made by Julie, Vintage Hills Elementary School, on Jul 20, 2008

I can't believe there has been no news regarding a police helicopter landing right in the parking lot of the Vintage Hills Shopping Center. Does anyone know what happened? This occurred a week or two ago & I kept thinking I'd see something about it.

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Posted by Marvin
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 20, 2008 at 10:42 pm

Well Julie, why don't you give us a few more details.


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Posted by Julie
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jul 21, 2008 at 1:32 am

Let's see...On Tuesday, July 15th at approximately 2:00 p.m. I saw what appeared to be a police helicopter flying VERY low over what I thought to be Bernal Ave. (I was facing Norton Way). I then saw the helicopter go down. After a few minutes I jumped in my car and drove to the intersection of Tawny and Bernal because my daughter and her friend had just walked off to the condos across from Tawny Park and I was concerned for their safety depending on what was going on. I saw that the helicopter had not landed on Bernal Ave., but in the parking lot of the Vintage Hills Center. I saw an ambulance and a fire truck. I stopped at the stop light just as the helicopter was taking off again. I found it odd, considering other news items I read online, that nothing appeared in the news regarding this incident.


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Posted by Susan
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 21, 2008 at 12:36 pm

Aliens.


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Posted by chris
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 21, 2008 at 4:47 pm

It was probably Cholo....looking for a safe place to land!


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Posted by Grace
a resident of Highland Oaks
on Jul 21, 2008 at 6:28 pm

It's interesting that there are so many questions about things happening in our town and so little reporting on them. I count about 10 questions outstanding in the forum with no follow-up at all from the PW staff, and I can enumerate them upon request. Maybe they're all on vacation? Or maybe the direction the paper is going in is more of a party-line announcement forum and not a let's-get-to-the-facts reporting style at all?


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Posted by independent
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 21, 2008 at 8:31 pm

I find that reading the Independent gives me more information than reading the PW!

In addition, the Independent has a different editorial slant than any of the other local papers (PW, Valley Times, Tri-Valley Herald).
The PW is almost totally without substance!


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Posted by Julie
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jul 21, 2008 at 10:43 pm

Well, I'm still surprised there was nothing about this, even if it happened to be just an exercise. I read all sorts of inane news items (particularly about traffic) at ktvu.com, etc. It isn't everyday a helicopter lands in the middle of a parking lot in a residential area.


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Posted by Jerry
a resident of Oak Hill
on Jul 21, 2008 at 11:33 pm

Could have been someone needing immediate medical airlift to a remote medical facility. The safest landing area may have been the parking lot.

Those chopper pilots are amazing, especially military combat pilots. Some can setdown in near impossible locations.


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Posted by Julie
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jul 22, 2008 at 9:10 am

Jerry, that's what I was thinking. They are doing a lot of construction on that center, so my thought was that a worker got injured. I read about these types of incidents in the news all the time...I guess ol' P-Town isn't important enough (though ktvu did report on an accident on Foothill the other day). I was surprised our own hometown paper had nothing on this!


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Posted by Elyssa, intern for Pleasanton Weekly
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 22, 2008 at 11:37 am

Hello everyone and thank you for your interest.

After conacting the Police we found the following information. As it was not a criminal case, they do not have many details, so there will be more information to follow when I have it.

On July 15 a small child (about 1 and 1/2 years old) was life-flighted from the Vintage Hills area. The child had fallen unconscious after sustaining an accidental injury and due to the conditions the helicopter transport was deemed necessary.

I will post more information soon.


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Posted by Brianna
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 22, 2008 at 12:13 pm

Hey Jerry, I wrote a response to something you said under the Pleasanton Man Charged with Murder, (or something like that), heading. It's an old thread, so I don't think you're going to notice it.
In additon to what I wrote there, I think 'learned helplessness' is relevant. Some studies were done with animals where they were subjected to something painful, and were powerless to do anything about it (like children are powerless in relation to violent parents.) When the researchers removed the obstacle that prevented them from being able to help themselves, the animals were passive. They did not take action to avoid the painful stimuli, they had learned that they were helpless. The researchers extrapolated that this could explain in part why some adults do take action on their own behalf, (wives who tolerate abusive husbands, for e.g.) As children, these women lived in violent households and were powerless to protect themselves. They believe they are helpless, and they remain passive.


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Posted by Elyssa, intern for Pleasanton Weekly
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 22, 2008 at 12:21 pm

After contacting the Fire Department I can now tell you the following:

The child that was injured was an 18-month-old boy who fell five feet. AMR air-lifted the child to Children's Hospital Oakland, which is the designated child trauma center.

Because the child is a minor, there is no other information I can give you.

I hope this answers most of your questions, and thank you again.


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Posted by Neighbor
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jul 22, 2008 at 1:08 pm

Elyssa,

Thank you for being responsive.

No aliens....I can take the foil off my windows.

We will hope and wait to hear the child is okay.





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Posted by frank
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Jul 22, 2008 at 9:13 pm

So, this thread began with "a police helicopter" and ends with a life-flight, medical helicopter activity. Life-flight operations have become rather common. The only uncommon item about this one is that the empty parking lot at the nearly vacant shopping center was used. An incredibly sensible location which is not used often.

In Pleasanton most emergency cases are rushed by ambulance to nearby hospitals. For some reason the judgement call on the ground dictated that Children's Hospital in Oakland was necessary. Therein lies the reason for air ambulance being used in this instance.

Personally, I am not convinced that the PW is dropping the ball on not reporting every such "life guard" flight operation in Pleasanton. So, what other newspapers reported this? How about the Independent that one poster elevated to great status?

And when a helicopter lands, why assume it is police and not an air ambulance?


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Posted by Julie
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jul 24, 2008 at 6:55 pm

I thought I saw the words "Police" on the helicopter.

I didn't think that PW had "dropped" the ball. Again, considering all the inane news items I read online (e.g. ktvu.com) and news I have previously read in PW, I was simply surprised.

I don't know about your P-Town neighborhood, but life-flight operations are not common in my neighborhood! This is the first "life-flight operation" I have personally witnessed in the 8 years I have lived here. I lived in S.F. for 27 years and never once witnessed such an event.

A young child is likely to suffer severe injuries and must be checked out if they fall farther than their height. 5 feet is obviously very far for an 18 month old.


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Posted by Julie
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jul 24, 2008 at 6:56 pm

Oh, and forgot to say...

Thank you Elyssa! Great job.


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Posted by frank
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Jul 24, 2008 at 7:44 pm

Police helicopters rarely land, but direct from the air police action on the ground. It's too dangerous for them and is counter for their purpose.

Police helicopters will not evacuate medical cases. They are equipped to.

Air ambulance is very common throughout the Bay Area. Not common, however, inside dense communities with closeby trauma units. Landings are always directed by authorities on the ground that help choose landing spots and keep that area secure.

This last point, being uncommon in dense communities, is the reason for this thread. However, such a landing is not really newsworthy.


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Posted by frank
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Jul 24, 2008 at 7:45 pm

erratum: they are NOT equipped to.


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Posted by Vinelander
a resident of Vineyard Hills
on Jul 25, 2008 at 1:53 pm

I thought it may be an alien landing in Pleasanton to "pull papers" to run for Mayor. Everyone else is.


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Posted by unknown
a resident of Downtown
on Aug 14, 2008 at 3:25 pm

Chris - Love it!!!!! I would have thought the same thing.


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Posted by Preserve our way of life
a resident of Bonde Ranch
on Sep 30, 2008 at 11:17 pm

Cholo got in trouble so he now goes by Chris.