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Worth reading: Obama, taking on unions, backs teacher merit pay

Original post made by Resident, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Mar 10, 2009

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Posted by Sandy
a resident of Mohr Park
on Mar 10, 2009 at 11:01 am

Sandy is a registered user.

I support merit pay for teachers, and I heartily agree with President Obama when he says "We need to make sure our students have the teacher they need to be successful. That means states and school districts taking steps to move bad teachers out of the classroom. Let me be clear: if a teacher is given a chance but still does not improve, there is no excuse for that person to continue teaching."

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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Mar 10, 2009 at 12:29 pm

"_Challenging states to adopt world-class standards rather than a specific standard."

One advantage that other countries have over the US in education is a national curriculum with national accountability. The Newsweek ranking of Pleasanton high schools by using voluntary AP and IB test scores is a prime example at how difficult it is to compare the quality of US high schools apples to apples in light of no national standard.

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Posted by Karen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 10, 2009 at 4:14 pm

It's difficult to compare the US with other countries because we attempt to educate ALL kids while other countries have entrance exams at various grade levels and their teenagers have passed through at least one gauntlet to gain entrance to advanced studies. It's not comparing apples to apples. I like our system better because it allows for individual differences in maturity and recognizes the possibilites of achievement even in kids who come late to the process.

Now that I've said that...I also think it's about time we embrace merit pay for teachers and do away with tenure. There's a mountain of mediocrity in schools that we need to reform.

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Posted by Remorse
a resident of Downtown
on Mar 10, 2009 at 6:00 pm

BO may have VERBALLY kicked the unions today w/ his endorsement of merit pay (which i agree) but its what he DOES that matters not what he says. If anything is crystal clear to me now, (as a former BO supporter who now has big time remorse)I have learned that his words are cheap. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. i wont be fooled again.

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Posted by Fan of IB
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Mar 10, 2009 at 9:52 pm

Couldn't agree with you more.
The International Baccalaureate program would be a terrific model to adopt to see our way to a "world class" education system here in the US. Fat chance however with so many school districts/educators/unions entrenched in the mediocrity we see today. A charter IB school was proposed here in Pleasanton 8 or 9 years ago but was NOT supported by PUSD in any way, shape or form.

FYI-Newsweek does not measure actual SCORES on the AP or IB exams to determine ranking on the list. PUSD would not do as well as we do in that case-it merely looks at how MANY AP or IB EXAMS students sign up for or take. A whole different (and perhaps meaningless?) ballgame when you think about it.

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Posted by No Remorse
a resident of Dublin
on Mar 11, 2009 at 11:52 am

The man has been in office only since January, give him a chance. In this day of "instant gratification" people expect miricles in a New York minute.

He will not make me happy on everything I support but he is taking some action. I do not have remorse for my vote for President Obama.