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Permit parking Only?

Original post made by D. Ragon on May 26, 2012

Why can't us people living across from he fairgrounds have permit parking only on the street? with the good guys coming next week, means I canot leave my house with my truck unless I want to lose my spot. Not fair for us people that live here on angela street or Harrison sttreet


Posted by Local, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 26, 2012 at 11:17 pm

I thought residents got special consideration.

Posted by resident, a resident of Downtown
on May 27, 2012 at 9:02 am

Local -- residents get no consideration at all. Try living on first street during a Friday concert. Idiots park everywhere including blocking driveways and in the driveways of the people who live there. All downtown residential street parking should be by permit only at all times.
Bring it up to the city council, permit parking works great in other towns.

Posted by Mongo, a resident of Birdland
on May 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm

I thought the public streets were "PUBLIC". No homeowner has a right to a space on a public street just because its close to their house.

Posted by Wanda, a resident of Downtown
on May 27, 2012 at 11:13 pm

Mongo@the jenson track across from Amador is permit only.

then if it's public street-lets get no parking at all every time something big happens at the fairgrounds-since the county is so hard up for money-close our streets to parking and MAKE them pay for parking. San Ramon has permit only parking too near Cal High.

It's more common then you think Mongo.

fine I will park all my cars in front of your house Mongo. ALL of them

Posted by ccwc, a resident of Jensen Tract
on May 28, 2012 at 8:18 am

We've had Permit Parking for years in Jensen Tract - call the city and get a petition from them to have signed in your neighborhood - it's easy and they'll install signs and give the homeowners/renters special stickers or tags to hang from your rear view mirror. Don't be part of the problem - be part of the solution!!!

Posted by Harrison St resident, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 28, 2012 at 9:02 am

What's worse is during Fair season there is no parking at all allowed on our street. If you don't have a driveway, or own multiple cars, you're pretty much screwed. That's not right we can't park on our street.

Posted by resident, a resident of Downtown
on May 28, 2012 at 1:12 pm

[removed] PUBLIC streets do NOT include my driveway or parking across the entrance to the driveway so that I cannot get in or out. When the people of Pleasanton learn common courtesy the problem will go away.
All areas that are negatively impacted by excess parking traffic should be permit only. Even if only by permit during specific events or days.

Posted by Miguel, a resident of Downtown
on May 28, 2012 at 11:19 pm

CCWC-thank you but I guess this has been tried before over here and didn't fly. I have to agree with harrison Street resident and the other one that said Mongo is an idiot. I have woken up at times to find a good guy patron blocking my driveway with their piece of crap 57 chevy that they didn't want to pay $8.00 parking for. Needless to say, they had to pay a nice tow fee and impound fee only in the end the moron knew it was me that called his car in and my car and house got vandalize by someone. Ironic?
I pay over $11,000 a year in property taxes to live here I would think I can get in and out of my driveway with no problems.

Posted by Desiree, a resident of Downtown
on May 28, 2012 at 11:21 pm

Lets all got the city and get the info needed. seems we have more of a problem then the Jenson tract across from the high school

Posted by Sue, a resident of Ruby Hill
on May 29, 2012 at 8:13 am

If this were a problem for me I would use cones and block off the space infront of my house when there were events that would impact my parking.

Posted by Janice, a resident of Kottinger Ranch
on May 29, 2012 at 8:13 am

Unfortunately, too many people are completely devoid of common decency. We have a neighbor that has a junk car their kid was driving until he went off to college. It is a junker and it leaks oil. They park it in front of our house, or another neighbors house, instead of parking it in front of thier house. The parents go out and move it every 3-4 days so the police won't ticket them, but the car is not driven anywhere.

Posted by Lilia Knight, a resident of Ironwood
on May 29, 2012 at 8:18 am

I agree that the people who live near the Fairgrounds should be able to have a permit to park on the street during fair events.

Posted by Maggie, a resident of Valencia
on May 29, 2012 at 8:54 am

How long have the fairgrounds been there? Nothing worse than people knowingly buying homes in areas that have issues and then complaining about them or ask for special treatment.

Posted by resident, a resident of Downtown
on May 29, 2012 at 9:10 am

Sue you are so naive. The jerks move the cones. I have red curbs painted by the city that leave 5 feet clear on both sides of my driveway. Idiots ignore them. I have the car towed. Ice picking the tires would be easier and probably more fun.
I agree with Janice. Common sense and courtesy are hard to find in this town.

Posted by Resident, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 29, 2012 at 9:31 am

I recall that some neighbors petitioned the City several years ago for permit only parking near the fairgrounds. However, more neighbors came out against the petition, than there were in favor of the petition. People against permit parking did not want to have to place a permit on someones car when they had guests visiting from out of town, family friends staying the night, or when people came over for a birthday, etc. Some people thought it would take too much police effort to enforce permit parking. The fairgrounds might be happy with permit parking in the neighborhoods, since it would force people to pay to park at the fairgrounds.

Posted by Murray, a resident of Ruby Hill
on May 29, 2012 at 9:56 am

It's simple. Park your car in the garage. If you don't have one, it's probably because you haven't worked hard enough to earn one. Beyond that, put a table and chairs in the street in front of your house, but make sure you attach a 'do not take these away' sign to each of them. When it comes time to park, move the table and chairs onto your front lawn and park the car.

Posted by Mike Tassano, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 29, 2012 at 10:22 am

The City of Pleasanton does have a permit parking ordinance. The ordinance was created in the mid-1990's to address Amador High School student parking that was impacting the Jensen Tract residents. The program was expanded to include the neighborhoods around Foothill High a few years later. These are the only 2 areas in town that has permit parking and the ordinance is written specifically to address school parking impacts. This current application around the high schools has worked well. Due to the regular nature of parkers, once initial enforcement is done at the beginning of each school year there is limited need for further enforcement.

The use of a Residential Permit Parking program for Fairgrounds or Downtown events would be different. Review of experience in other cities indicates that where parking demand is high, special event attendees are likely to violate parking restrictions. Although violators do receive tickets, the space is still taken (towing is generally restricted to safety problems) and residents do not receive appreciable benefit from the parking restriction unless continuous heavy enforcement is provided. Such a level of enforcement has been reviewed in the past and it was determined that enforcement to a level that would maintain compliance would be very difficult given other Police responsibilities, including those related to the special events themselves.

The City of Pleasanton, historically, has posted "No Parking" for the two-week period during the Alameda County Fair in the residential areas around the Fairgrounds. Initially parking was prohibited 24 hours a day to address traffic congestion and emergency access needs. Currently, the parking regulation during the Fair prohibits parking from 10 am to 8 pm. These regulations are intended to protect the neighbors from the impacts of fairgoers who seek free parking. These impact include fairgoers' utilizing parking in front of residents' homes, trash in and around the streets and on the residents' property, increased noise, and increased traffic congestion from vehicles searching for a free parking space. By prohibiting parking from 10 am to 8 pm, when the parking demand for the Fair is greatest, residents are able to park in front of their houses at night. This parking prohibition also makes the enforcement effort much easier, as a police can quickly check the streets during the day for illegally parked vehicles instead of checking vehicles individually for the proper permit.

The Pleasanton Staff Traffic Committee has reviewed this issue in the past, and has recommended against the general approach of creating Residential Permit Parking Zones for special events. Special events are an integral part of the community, not only Downtown but also at every school and park. The frequency of these events is so numerous and widespread that to attempt to preclude parking in residential areas would be monumental, and we believe not in keeping with the community nature of these events.

As always please contact me directly at if you have any questions or concerns regarding Pleasanton Traffic.

Mike Tassano
Deputy Director of Community Development, Transportation

Posted by Tennessee Jed, a resident of Jensen Tract
on May 29, 2012 at 10:37 am

Thanks for that, Mike...

Posted by Rick, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 29, 2012 at 11:47 am

at Mike Tassano

THANK YOU! makes perfect sense to me.

Posted by Steve, a resident of Stoneridge
on May 29, 2012 at 12:15 pm

Considering how chaotic it gets for fairground events, it has always amazed me that local residents don't access to parking permits.

Posted by Resident, a resident of Old Towne
on May 29, 2012 at 2:00 pm

Great explanation that really makes sense -- Mike, thanks for taking the time to respond!

Posted by Wanda, a resident of Downtown
on May 29, 2012 at 3:25 pm

Mike Tassano- I have no problem with the fair part--It's the Good Guys people that come into town. They block driveway, crosswalks and fire hydrants just to name a few things, the park so close to the corner (i.e.- Harrison@W. angela) where one can barely make a legal turn. come on out this weekend when the Good Guys is going on-let's try and get a fire truck around one of these corners with these morons parked right to the corner. It won't work.

As for Murray in Ruby Hills-I work plenty hard for my house and huess what-I have a million dollar home in downtown that doesn't have a garage nor do I owe anything on this house-paid off. How much do you owe on your pre fab no character home. you probably owe more then it's worth. so take your garage and shove it.

Posted by Mike, a resident of Highland Oaks
on May 29, 2012 at 5:29 pm

To paraphrase Mr. Tassano's elegantly spun explanation of the situation:

The benefit of fairground events outweighs the inconvenience of homeowners in the vicinity.


Posted by resident, a resident of Downtown
on May 29, 2012 at 8:08 pm

Mike says "Although violators do receive tickets, the space is still taken (towing is generally restricted to safety problems) and residents do not receive appreciable benefit from the parking restriction unless continuous heavy enforcement is provided."
This is just a complete no-brainer. Make the fine HUGE and enforce the violations. I am thinking something like a red light ticket -- over $500. The revenue generated would far exceed the cost of enforcement. Using the excuse that everyone violates it so just don't have the rule is stupid. Lots of kids do drugs. So why don't you just not enforce the rules in the schools? Lots of people drive drunk so just stop enforcing that too.
Wanda is right, no group is as bad as the Good Guy crowd. As for Ruby Ridge Murray -- my Pleasanton home has a garage, that does not keep idiots from parking in my driveway and blocking my driveway. Oh, and while you sit back in your underwater piece of garbage in Ruby Ridge, I am enjoying my paid off Pleasanton house and my paid off second home. So don't be so smug about how well you have it. Jerk.

Posted by Jim, a resident of Downtown
on May 30, 2012 at 5:13 am

I would have to agree with everyone about Murray. I find it amazing, yet sad that people who don't live in a neighborhood always want their nose stuck up other people's business. Many short people suffer with Short Syndrome Ego Imbalance (SSEI). Based upon this input that may be the case here. People with SSEI are usually smart but lone individuals, regardless of their family circle. They feel left out and ignored by society. They combat their feelings by surrounding themselves with things larger than themselves. And they interact in society by referencing those things they have purchased as a substitute for character. I was surprised that he didn't quote the square footage of the house as well, just to be sure you were properly impressed.

Posted by Spudly, a resident of Laguna Oaks
on May 30, 2012 at 7:49 am

All of you should move on and deal with some real problems. This is a small part of life so just live with it and put your focus on something that can really make a difference.

Posted by Murray, a resident of Ruby Hill
on May 30, 2012 at 8:51 am

I continue to be amused by how people attempt to rationalize their own life's shortcomings. Such as living in a neighborhood where, on account of one's own inability to get ahead in life, one is beset by automobile traffic, pollution, congestion, and the like. There are ways to avoid the kinds of piddley problems that so exercise the minds of the lower classes, but they almost all involve hard work and ingenuity.

Posted by Pete , a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 30, 2012 at 9:42 am

Murray, you living behind bars... in a safe house, are you a comedian? You are quit funny. Thanks Mike Tassano for info.

Posted by Don, a resident of Downtown
on May 30, 2012 at 11:22 am

It looks like someone has hit a nerve. A Murray nerve. Given his response I would say the truth has been uncovered. I agree with Jim and Spudly. Its time to move on. Murray's comments reveal his true character. Which I would have to say doesn't look to be much. They are unimportant and irrelevant to the point being discussed.

Posted by Stella, a resident of Downtown
on May 31, 2012 at 5:47 pm

Sounds like Murray is an insecure troll that lives in a prison. I wonder how much money her owns on his piece of crap house with a garage or course.
Hey Murray guess what I don't have a garage either, but then my house was built for my great great grandfather before cars were even made. I am thinking about throwing broken glass around the front of my house late Friday night.